Pujols signs with Angels pg 151

[Banedon]

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman

Cardinals have press conference this moning. Hmmm.

[Epsteenie]

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman

Cardinals have press conference this moning. Hmmm.

 

This is expected to be about whether LaRussa will be back or not.

[jersey cubs fan]

SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman

Cardinals have press conference this moning. Hmmm.

 

This is expected to be about whether LaRussa will be back or not.

 

unless it is not

[Guest]

Not sure how good a source this is, but...

 

The Milwaukee Brewers' Prince Fielder is reportedly being pursued by the Chicago Cubs under new president of baseball operations Theo Epstein.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sportsxchange-000458917_labor-talks-could-impact-top-free-agents

[tfarks]

Damn vague internet reportedly's

[ArizonaGM]

Not sure how good a source this is, but...

 

The Milwaukee Brewers' Prince Fielder is reportedly being pursued by the Chicago Cubs under new president of baseball operations Theo Epstein.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sportsxchange-000458917_labor-talks-could-impact-top-free-agents

 

Reported by WHO? Sounds like he just threw that in there.

[davell]

Maybe so. But Fielder fits the whole "Don't want to pay for past production" mold to a tee age-wise.

[davell]

In a perfect world, you make a quick strike on Fielder, so you can offer arb to Pena without thinking he'd accept. Of course, with Boras as Fielder's agent, I'll be shocked if he doesn't wait on Pujols to sign first.

[davearm2]

Not sure how good a source this is, but...

 

The Milwaukee Brewers' Prince Fielder is reportedly being pursued by the Chicago Cubs under new president of baseball operations Theo Epstein.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sportsxchange-000458917_labor-talks-could-impact-top-free-agents

Do people not grasp how this works? Theo could scarcely tell Fielder "Happy Halloween" without it being seen as tampering.

[davearm2]

Maybe so. But Fielder fits the whole "Don't want to pay for past production" mold to a tee age-wise.

No, that would be Pujols. Fielder is still relatively young.

[imb]

Maybe so. But Fielder fits the whole "Don't want to pay for past production" mold to a tee age-wise.

No, that would be Pujols. Fielder is still relatively young.

....

[MSG T]

Maybe so. But Fielder fits the whole "Don't want to pay for past production" mold to a tee age-wise.

No, that would be Pujols. Fielder is still relatively young.

 

While there's definitely an argument about whether the cost difference would be worth it, I'd bet that Pujols outperforms Fielder over the next five years, assuming they are in similar hitters parks.

[Guest]

Maybe so. But Fielder fits the whole "Don't want to pay for past production" mold to a tee age-wise.

No, that would be Pujols. Fielder is still relatively young.

That's exactly what he was saying.

[davearm2]

Maybe so. But Fielder fits the whole "Don't want to pay for past production" mold to a tee age-wise.

No, that would be Pujols. Fielder is still relatively young.

That's exactly what he was saying.

It's ambiguous, but I can see that interpretation now too.

 

At first read, I thought the point was that the Cubs would not be interested in Fielder because of the "don't pay for past production" theme.

[davell]

Yeah I can see how it could be taken either way, but I did mean Fielder seems much more likely to possibly be a target for us than Pujols. That said, if Pujols is willing to take a llarge 6 year deal, I'm not so sure I wouldn't rather have that than a possible 8 year deal for Fielder. But, it's cool as hell to have a bunch of number crunchers here now to analyze the cost factor vs. production angle for us over the course of proposed terms of a deal.

[dew1679666265]

Of course, with Boras as Fielder's agent, I'll be shocked if he doesn't wait on Pujols to sign first.

 

This is what I expect to happen. Prince and Boras will probably just wait around, see what Pujols signs for, and then ask for a dollar amount a little less than that number. For instance, if Pujols gets $28 million AAV, then Prince likely asks for $25 AAV.

[17 Seconds]

not ambiguous at all

[davearm2]

not ambiguous at all

Of course it is. The age part points one direction, and the production part points the exact opposite direction.

 

Obviously Fielder has been very productive and that'll drive his price way up.

 

On the other hand he's still in his prime years.

[Tyrant]

not ambiguous at all

Of course it is. The age part points one direction, and the production part points the exact opposite direction.

 

Obviously Fielder has been very productive and that'll drive his price way up.

 

On the other hand he's still in his prime years.

 

Everyone else understood what he was saying.

[ConstableRabbit]

not ambiguous at all

Of course it is. The age part points one direction, and the production part points the exact opposite direction.

 

Obviously Fielder has been very productive and that'll drive his price way up.

 

On the other hand he's still in his prime years.

 

Everyone else understood what he was saying.

For the record I read it as the opposite.

[Ballgame64]

Tim Kurkjan gives his $0.02

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7165040/ten-questions-heading-offseason

 

9. Where will Prince Fielder sign?

It won't be with the Brewers. They'd love to have him back -- they can afford him at $13 million a year, but not at $19 million a year. He's likely to command more than $20 million per year for five seasons, at least.

 

Remember, Scott Boras is his agent. Fielder is only 27, has missed one game in the last three years, has missed 13 games in the last six years and has never been on the disabled list. He is a better runner than people think, an average defender at first base and is, by all accounts, a great teammate.

 

Logically, he would fit best with the Cubs. They need a dominant hitter and a dominant personality in the clubhouse. Do they have the money to sign him?

 

10. Where will Albert Pujols sign?

The market likely won't be as brisk as he would like given that the two biggest spenders, the Yankees and Red Sox, have first basemen signed to long-term deals.

 

So maybe the Cubs, Rangers, Marlins, Giants or Dodgers will find $200 million somewhere and make a run at one of the greatest hitters in history who is close to his prime at age 31.

 

But chances are Pujols will re-sign with the Cardinals. They simply can't afford to lose him, he's too important to the team and the town. Plus, he'll hit his 500th home run sometime in 2013. He's on his way to becoming one of the three greatest hitters of all time, and he's the greatest first baseman who ever lived. How are the Cardinals going to let him walk away?

Why would Kurkjan wonder if the Cubs had the money to sign Fielder? Especially if Ramirez is not part of the 2012 team.

 

Also, while Albert is fantastic, there was a guy name Lou Gehrig who would like to talk to Kurkjan about the great first baseman in baseball history.

[Sammy Sofa]

The difference between Gehrig and Pujols is not as great as you think.

[17 Seconds]

does pujols have his own disease?

[Sammy Sofa]

It's so ironic that Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gherig's Disease.

[Conky]

Not sure how good a source this is, but...

 

The Milwaukee Brewers' Prince Fielder is reportedly being pursued by the Chicago Cubs under new president of baseball operations Theo Epstein.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sportsxchange-000458917_labor-talks-could-impact-top-free-agents

Do people not grasp how this works? Theo could scarcely tell Fielder "Happy Halloween" without it being seen as tampering.

 

There can be contact, but no formal offer.

 

"Hey Prince, how's it going? Just got off the phone with Albert"...

 

ST. LOUIS -- Because of ongoing collective bargaining for a new Basic Agreement, the beginning of the annual free-agency period has been pushed back 24 hours, Commissioner Bud Selig said prior to Game 7 of the World Series at Busch Stadium on Friday night.

 

Under new rules unveiled last year, eligible players no longer have to file, but automatically become free agents at midnight ET after the final game of the World Series.

 

That date has now been pushed back to Sunday at 12:01 a.m. ET and has been "a subject of a lot of conversation," Selig said during a 22-minute news conference, during which he lauded the increased popularity of baseball.

 

 

At that point, a five-day period of exclusivity commences, during which a free agent's previous team can only make an offer to the player and his representative. Other teams can make contact, but are not allowed to tender formal offers. Under the altered guidelines, that five-day period will end at 12:01 a.m. ET on Thursday.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111028&content_id=25828202&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb