2010-2011 Chicago Bulls Thread

[Flames24Rulz]

please stop taking so many 3's, derrick

 

He took quite a few of them when the game was already well in hand. I don't really understand why Thibs had Rose in there up until a minute remaining in the game.

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please stop taking so many 3's, derrick

 

He took quite a few of them when the game was already well in hand. I don't really understand why Thibs had Rose in there up until a minute remaining in the game.

 

i'm just worried that rose is going to keep taking so many 3's in the playoffs. he hasn't been making them since he injured his wrist but he's still taking a ridiculous amount of them. that's why his fg% keeps plummeting.

[Sammy Sofa]

Take more 3's.

[davell]

Rose is 15-39 from 3 over his last 5 games, after going 0-14 in the previous 3 before that. I'm not all that worried about him personally.

 

On the other hand, I AM worried that we're a team that's peaking and playing at about the highest level we possibly can right now. I think the Celtics and even the Heat can probably kick it up a level come playoff time, while we can't. I think we're still a player away from being a championship caliber team. That said, I really, really, really hope I'm wrong in saying that.

[UMFan83]

Defense doesn't peak IMO. Sure there are bad matchups and off nights, but in general Thibs defensive system is proven to work. Look at how he took a group of mediocre to poor defenders (along with a couple of good ones) and turned them into the best defensive team in the league. If we can stop an opponent from scoring, we should see a pretty successful playoff run. Maybe not a championship, but that's certainly not out of the question.

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Rose is 15-39 from 3 over his last 5 games, after going 0-14 in the previous 3 before that. I'm not all that worried about him personally.

 

small sample size. take out that monster first quarter against the jazz and those numbers look a lot different.

 

in january he took 5.1 three's a game at only 25%

in march so far he's taking 6.6 a game at 28.3%

 

not trashing him, just saying. he's taking a ridiculous amount of 3's right now for a guy who isn't making them. it's hurting his game, plain and simple. he's be better if he stopped taking so many.

[Sammy Sofa]

No, he needs to take more.

[davell]

I'm just not all that worried about his 3's right now, because he's going to HAVE to be hitting them in the playoffs for us to go very far. I figure he's lost a little lift at this point in the season and hopefully Thibs will find a way to get him a little more rest somehow.

 

I definitely agree with the D comment too, by the way. But, I still think we're going to need another go-to guy to truly take the championship step. Hope I'm wrong.

[bukie]

Considering defenses are sitting back on him, and the Bulls have the highest margin of victory in the NBA since December 3, I don't have a problem with him working on his 3-point shooting during games. The only way he's going to get better at it is to shoot it more.

 

Plus, the Bulls are so good at offensive rebounding, it doesn't really hurt them to try.

[Careless]

"small sample size, let me break it down so I can include his 0-19 streak as an even smaller part of the season to make him look worse"

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"small sample size, let me break it down so I can include his 0-19 streak as an even smaller part of the season to make him look worse"

 

how about 40 games. is that a big enough sample size for you?

 

last 40 games-

 

4.92 attempts per game

 

29.4 percent

 

so for the last 40 games, he's making 3's at a horrible rate, yet he's taking them as much as almost anybody. you don't see a problem with that?

 

i don't get why you can't mention this about rose, even though it's obviously something that is bringing his game down. i'm not talking [expletive] about rose, i'm pointing out an obvious flaw.

 

he's taking 5 three's a game and he hasn't shown in his nba career so far that he can make them. so why is everyone so defensive when i bring it up?

[Guest]

He can't improve on his in game 3 point shooting without taking 3's in games. It's not hurting a thing. And if it is hurting anything, it's not by much, so I'll go ahead and take the trade off so that a great young player who has shown an absurdly unique ability to identify flaws in his game and improve them quickly can continue to improve.

[SouthSideRyan]

Maybe he should identify the flaw of missing 3 pointers.

[Keener98]

Maybe he should identify the flaw of missing 3 pointers.

 

How'd that Nets game work out the other night?

[scarey]

"small sample size, let me break it down so I can include his 0-19 streak as an even smaller part of the season to make him look worse"

 

how about 40 games. is that a big enough sample size for you?

 

last 40 games-

 

4.92 attempts per game

 

29.4 percent

 

so for the last 40 games, he's making 3's at a horrible rate, yet he's taking them as much as almost anybody. you don't see a problem with that?

 

i don't get why you can't mention this about rose, even though it's obviously something that is bringing his game down. i'm not talking [expletive] about rose, i'm pointing out an obvious flaw.

 

he's taking 5 three's a game and he hasn't shown in his nba career so far that he can make them. so why is everyone so defensive when i bring it up?

 

He has to shoot it. When guys are sitting 5-8 feet off of him waiting for him to drive, he's going to have to take that shot. When he sinks a couple and defenders are forced to defend his shot, it opens him up to drive.

 

Also, you're cherry picking stats. 40 games back just so happens to be the start of a three game stretch where he went 0-11 from three. If you go 50 games back, it would include a stretch where he went for 25 for 48 from three for a whopping 52%.

 

Yes, .336 is not particularly impressive or desirable for a guy that's shot 304 three pointers. However, the way defenses are playing him dictates how he needs to adjust. If teams are going to give him the three, he's going to have to shoot it.

[Guest]

1) I'm not so sure I agree that Rose "can't improve in game 3 point shooting without taking threes in games".

 

2) Even if the second unit is historically great defensively, wouldn't the fact that they're a "bottom 3-5 offense" without Rose on the floor balance them out from a +/- perspective?

[SouthSideRyan]

Maybe he should identify the flaw of missing 3 pointers.

 

How'd that Nets game work out the other night?

 

We're doing quite well in not facing Dwight Howard til the ECF. Thanks for your concern.

[scarey]

BTW, the way I see it is he shoots about 4.5 threes per game. He shoots at a 33.6%clip making about 1.5 per game. If he were shooting 40%, he'd be making about 1.8 per game. So, that equates to about 1 extra missed shot every three games. I can live with that.

[bukie]

BTW, the way I see it is he shoots about 4.5 threes per game. He shoots at a 33.6%clip making about 1.5 per game. If he were shooting 40%, he'd be making about 1.8 per game. So, that equates to about 1 extra missed shot every three games. I can live with that.

But if you take out every one he made, the numbers don't look nearly as good.

[Guest]

Maybe he should identify the flaw of missing 3 pointers.

 

From like 27% on 60 attempts to 34% on 304 attempts. Sure hasn't done that.

 

Some things are works in progress. The progress is clear. Retarding the long term progress for minimal short term gain would be stupid.

[Flames24Rulz]

Maybe he should identify the flaw of missing 3 pointers.

 

How'd that Nets game work out the other night?

 

We lost to them earlier this year too...

[SouthSideRyan]

Maybe he should identify the flaw of missing 3 pointers.

 

How'd that Nets game work out the other night?

 

We lost to them earlier this year too...

 

That's not fair you guys had to face Devin Harris

[scarey]

BTW, the way I see it is he shoots about 4.5 threes per game. He shoots at a 33.6%clip making about 1.5 per game. If he were shooting 40%, he'd be making about 1.8 per game. So, that equates to about 1 extra missed shot every three games. I can live with that.

But if you take out every one he made, the numbers don't look nearly as good.

 

I know, I know. Ifs and buts, and all that.

[Keener98]

Maybe he should identify the flaw of missing 3 pointers.

 

How'd that Nets game work out the other night?

 

We lost to them earlier this year too...

 

Whos side are you on! :D

[BigSlick]

i fully expect that we lose to them again too, because we always play awful in new jersey and we even lost last year to a historically bad nets team when we were fighting for a playoff spot