Bears game 4: Sunday Oct. 3 at NYG on NBC

[SpongeWorthy]

What would be the funniest Chicago sports station to listen to right now?

[Wilson A2000]

Notice the only guy we really throw the back shoulder fades and those type of throws where the receiver isn't streaking open is Olsen. It's because Knox and Hester have no size and why Devin A. could be important.

 

And Jay and Devin A. have always played well together. The problem is that Hester can't play the slot because he doesn't like to get hit. So Aromoshadu is forced to and he doesn't like it and won't really make the switch.

[Wilson A2000]

What would be the funniest Chicago sports station to listen to right now?

 

670. Doug and OB are going to go CRAZY!

[UMFan83]

our defense got manhandled in the second half, too. this team is rotten top to bottom.

 

Can't stay off the field when the offense is going 3 and out almost every drive, you are going to break down eventually.

[Wilson A2000]

Yeah I have to agree that I don't blame the defense. They played great in the first half, but it is hard to play hard when you know you have no chance of winning. What was the time of possession?

[hawkeyecub]

I like how we have the immediate check down on 4th and 18 but on 3rd and 10 we call a 2 man deep route that takes forever to develop.

 

Yep. Jay didn't bother to check down the entire first half.

 

It doesn't appear like Martz believes in checking down. I rarely see a check down option and I know SpongeWorthy has pointed this out a few times.

 

It's why his offenses have always taken an incredible amount of sacks, especially away from the super-talented Rams team. Lots of 7 step drops with lots of deep routes that take a long time to develop. He doesn't use the TE's traditionally and if you have to keep your RB in to help protect, there aren't going to be many check downs at all.

[UMFan83]

I don't know if he was just saying this or he heard something, but Jim Miller just said he thinks Cutler suffered the concussion on the 1st play of the 2nd quarter.

[Wilson A2000]

OB on 670 is saying that the Bears had max protect with two TEs for much of the game. If you only throw to two guys, aren't they both going to get double covered? So the line is going to break down and no one is going to be open.

[Wilson A2000]

I like how we have the immediate check down on 4th and 18 but on 3rd and 10 we call a 2 man deep route that takes forever to develop.

 

Yep. Jay didn't bother to check down the entire first half.

 

It doesn't appear like Martz believes in checking down. I rarely see a check down option and I know SpongeWorthy has pointed this out a few times.

 

It's why his offenses have always taken an incredible amount of sacks, especially away from the super-talented Rams team. Lots of 7 step drops with lots of deep routes that take a long time to develop. He doesn't use the TE's traditionally and if you have to keep your RB in to help protect, there aren't going to be many check downs at all.

 

Maybe so. But there was at least one time where Cutler missed Bennett who was 7 yards down the field running across and wide open.

[SpongeWorthy]

It's time like these I wish we had some clown of a head coach who would go off on a hilarious rant in the post game press conference.

[UMFan83]

I like how we have the immediate check down on 4th and 18 but on 3rd and 10 we call a 2 man deep route that takes forever to develop.

 

Yep. Jay didn't bother to check down the entire first half.

 

It doesn't appear like Martz believes in checking down. I rarely see a check down option and I know SpongeWorthy has pointed this out a few times.

 

It's why his offenses have always taken an incredible amount of sacks, especially away from the super-talented Rams team. Lots of 7 step drops with lots of deep routes that take a long time to develop. He doesn't use the TE's traditionally and if you have to keep your RB in to help protect, there aren't going to be many check downs at all.

 

Once again, a completely perplexing hire for the Bears to make seeing as the only piece that could be a good piece for a Martz offense was Cutler. Everything else suggests an offense that should do everything possible to limit sacks because their offensive line is beyond horrible, a offense that uses the TE and checkdowns a lot because the WRs are inexperienced and again the Oline is bad.

[Wilson A2000]

The Packers and Cowboys have to be beside themselves as to how they could have lost to the Bears.

[UMFan83]

It's time like these I wish we had some clown of a head coach who would go off on a hilarious rant in the post game press conference.

 

Yup, I expect Lovie's PC to be typical where you cannot tell if the Bears won or lost by listening to it.

[Flames24Rulz]

The Packers and Cowboys have to be beside themselves as to how they could have lost to the Bears.

 

Not really. Good luck winning football games when you commit 18 penalties.

 

That's what happens when you're one of the least disciplined teams in the league. Dallas isn't much better, in that regard.

[minnesotacubsfan]

on a side note, nice to see Tommy Harris out there.

 

 

Doing nothing.

[SpongeWorthy]

He had a few moments.

[UMFan83]

Lovie is saying that he's chalking up the o-line play as "one of those games" and will be better next week.

 

I would pick this statement completely apart but I know even he doesn't believe that.

[Wilson A2000]

on a side note, nice to see Tommy Harris out there.

 

 

Doing nothing.

 

I blame this on Jerry. Tommie got hurt, demanded a new contract before the old was one completed, and Jerry capitulated. If Jerry allows that final year to play out, we all would have known that when your hamstring totally breaks off the bone you aren't going to have the speed you used to have. When was the last time Jerry played hardball with any player who wanted to redo their contract before it ended? It really is amazing that Jerry still has a job.

[SpongeWorthy]

The Colts only gave up 13 sacks all last year.

[Wilson A2000]

Lovie is saying that he's chalking up the o-line play as "one of those games" and will be better next week.

 

I would pick this statement completely apart but I know even he doesn't believe that.

 

Well I think giving up 10 sacks is just one of those games. They won't play that bad again. But the line is still probably the worst in football and you just can't gloss over that. But remember the stat NBC showed early in the game. Martz will bring more offense to a team. But his offenses, at least in their first year, always lead the league in sacks due to Martz's play calling. And that was with a good to decent line in St Louis wasn't it? Sacks are something you have to live with, just not 10 of them.

 

Don't forget that the Bears have two of the most unintelligent receivers in the league (Bennett and Hester). I am not sure that they can find the hot reads and exploit them to get the underneath stuff.

[JonJayCutler]

Fail.

 

Troll.

[JonJayCutler]

I refuse to believe after one game that the sky is falling. I'll be very surprised if Cutler doesn't play against Carolina. Him going home with the team is a good sign.

[UMFan83]

Lovie is saying that he's chalking up the o-line play as "one of those games" and will be better next week.

 

I would pick this statement completely apart but I know even he doesn't believe that.

 

Well I think giving up 10 sacks is just one of those games. They won't play that bad again. But the line is still probably the worst in football and you just can't gloss over that. But remember the stat NBC showed early in the game. Martz will bring more offense to a team. But his offenses, at least in their first year, always lead the league in sacks due to Martz's play calling. And that was with a good to decent line in St Louis wasn't it? Sacks are something you have to live with, just not 10 of them.

 

Don't forget that the Bears have two of the most unintelligent receivers in the league (Bennett and Hester). I am not sure that they can find the hot reads and exploit them to get the underneath stuff.

 

To me 'one of those days' means we just had a bad game, and it happens occasionally. But based on statistics, the Bears o-line was one of the worst 7-8 in the league coming into today. The o-line is really really bad, it was even worse today. This wasn't just a bad game you have occasionally, it was threatening to break NFL historical records for futility. And the 10 sacks or whatever doesn't tell the whole story. It doesn't account for all the plays where the QBs had to throw an awful pass because of immediate pressure.

 

Blah theres really nothing we can do but wait until next week and see if anything is different. At least the Hawks start this week and the Bulls preseason starts, even if half the luster of that is gone due to Boozer's freak injury. Great day in Chicago sports.

[SpongeWorthy]

I hate to go all Wilson on you guys but is there any possibility Cutler, despite being concussed, was acting like an ass to prove a point?

 

I'm looking through some of the game, because I'm a masochist, but some of those plays where he held the ball SO damn long were just inexcusable. Even when Martz called a 3 step drop he never threw the ball on rhythm. That ball needs to be out as soon as your back foot hits on the 3rd step.

 

Of course everyone had a bad game but there is plenty of game to go around here.

[UMFan83]

I refuse to believe after one game that the sky is falling. I'll be very surprised if Cutler doesn't play against Carolina. Him going home with the team is a good sign.

 

I don't know we'll see. I agree that him going home with the team is a good sign, but as you know the NFL is so much more serious about concussions than they were even 2-3 years ago. There's not a ton of precident to know what the likely result of this one will be.