Is Strasburg Washington's Mark Prior?

[mjohnson71]

He needs TJS.

 

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2010/08/stephen_strasburg_probably_nee.html

 

You can just hear the crying in Bristol at ESPN.

[Magnetic Curses]

It's pretty weird to be bummed out about this. It was inevitable. It happens to a ton of guys, and he's not a Cub. Why would you bother being bummer about it?

 

i'm sure there were a ton of tears shed for prior and wood, especially among cardinal fans.

[TruffleShuffle]

seriously, people thought that a pitcher that throws such crazy breaking pitches is going to last very long at all?

 

i really hate to [expletive] say i told you so imb, but choke on your sorrow

 

i really hate to [expletive] say i told you so, but here's me saying i told you so for about the 30th time on this issue.

[TruffleShuffle]

It's pretty weird to be bummed out about this. It was inevitable. It happens to a ton of guys, and he's not a Cub. Why would you bother being bummer about it?

 

because he's pretty much a once in a generation pitching talent (92 K's, 18 BB in 68 IP as a SP) and as a baseball fan, unless you're miserable all the time about everything, that's pretty exciting and interesting.

[XZero771679666304]

I was talking to a friend about a couple weeks ago, and he told me with conviction Strasburg would end up getting TJS before next season, that the workload this season would get him. I knew he was an injury risk, but I thought it was a rash prediction.

 

I guess not.

 

 

I wonder how Riggleman feels. Strasburg isn't his fault, but still, it's gotta be deja vu for him.

[Magnetic Curses]

seriously, people thought that a pitcher that throws such crazy breaking pitches is going to last very long at all?

 

i really hate to [expletive] say i told you so imb, but choke on your sorrow

 

i really hate to [expletive] say i told you so, but here's me saying i told you so for about the 30th time on this issue.

 

down under with the thunder

[imb]

don't you dare

[TruffleShuffle]

I was talking to a friend about a couple weeks ago, and he told me with conviction Strasburg would end up getting TJS before next season, that the workload this season would get him. I knew he was an injury risk, but I thought it was a rash prediction.

 

I guess not.

 

your friend was right with the wrong reasoning. he pitched only around 120 innings this year, which wasn't a huge jump from the 109 last year with SDSU. he never went over 100 pitches this year. in 2009 and 2008 he averaged nearly 7 1/2 innings per start, and considering that some of those starts he was striking out 15-20 batters, one would assume that his pitch counts were going above 100.

 

poor mechanics, previous workload, act of God, etc. are better excuses for strasburg's injury than his workload this season. short of not pitching him ever, there really wasn't anything the nationals could do to stop this from happening.

[XZero771679666304]

I was talking to a friend about a couple weeks ago, and he told me with conviction Strasburg would end up getting TJS before next season, that the workload this season would get him. I knew he was an injury risk, but I thought it was a rash prediction.

 

I guess not.

 

your friend was right with the wrong reasoning. he pitched only around 120 innings this year, which wasn't a huge jump from the 109 last year with SDSU. he never went over 100 pitches this year. in 2009 and 2008 he averaged nearly 7 1/2 innings per start, and considering that some of those starts he was striking out 15-20 batters, one would assume that his pitch counts were going above 100.

 

poor mechanics, previous workload, act of God, etc. are better excuses for strasburg's injury than his workload this season. short of not pitching him ever, there really wasn't anything the nationals could do to stop this from happening.

 

That's what I told him. They were being cautious with him, and I didn't think it would happen so soon.

 

That's why I mentioned Riggleman. He has to feel snakebitten.

[Northside Blues]

Maybe this is a blessing in disguise for the Nationals. Strasburg has the same inverted "W" arm action that has plagued Mark Prior and countless other pitchers, often leading to labrum issues down the road. Perhaps the 12 months of no pitching on his arm will allow his labrum to recuperate any small tears prolonging an eventual disaster that happened to Prior. If anything it would delay the inevitable by at least a season or two which is good for the Nationals because it makes it more likely they will be out of rebuilding mode and key pieces such as Bryce Harper will be able to play with Strasburg at least another season or so giving the Nationals a more likely chance to break through from mediocrity.

 

Of course it's never a good thing to see someone with his talent hurt, but this is perhaps a silver lining in the bad news. If only there existed National fans to console. They're like mirages, I hear.

[TruffleShuffle]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/stephen-strasburg-throws-a-simulated-game/2011/07/18/gIQAtxydMI_blog.html

[MSG T]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/stephen-strasburg-throws-a-simulated-game/2011/07/18/gIQAtxydMI_blog.html

 

 

Does anyone know if they fixed his mechanics? If not, he's likely to have more problems down the road.

[SouthSideRyan]

Can we give our stupid fans to the Nationals so they can make jokes about Strasburg now?

[CubmanPi]

Strasburg is the early favorite for the simulated CYA!!!!!11!!!oneone1!!!!towel!!!

[Ding Dong Johnson]

towels and all that

[Soul]

See? It doesn't just happen to the Cubs.

[TruffleShuffle]

HE'S BACK

 

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2011_08_07_gboafx_hagafx_1

[C.C.]

I don't see the point of bringing him back now?

[NCCubFan]

Pitchers sometimes struggle for awhile when they first return from TJS. If he can get that out of the way now maybe he'll be back in top form next year.

[Clem Fandango]

I don't see the point of bringing him back now?

 

I know thew Nats aren't going anywhere and bringing him back only further risks injury, but how do you not see the importance of having him get things back on track against legit MLB talent while he has the opportunity now? It would be beneficial for him to get his rhythm back and readjust to the league while learning to manage his delivery and mechanics to further avoid injury. Better to get it out of the way now and see if there will be any more problems then keep him on the shelf until spring training. If they send him to a Fall or Winter league he's just going to toy with the talent pool there, they might as well let him see MLB talent while he has the chance to see if he can right the ship and pick up where he left off

[davearm2]

That, plus the consideration that he's healthy enough to play baseball, and it's baseball season.

 

Holding him out just because the Nats are out of contention doesn't make any sense either.

 

By that logic, the Cubs should send Castro home.

[Guest]

They can keep him on rehab for a couple more weeks, bring him up for September, and you won't lose any service time out of it.

[davearm2]

They can keep him on rehab for a couple more weeks, bring him up for September, and you won't lose any service time out of it.

There's a cap on the number of days a rehab stint can last. Not sure of the exact number though; it's like 10 or 15 days IIRC.

[SouthSideRyan]

They can keep him on rehab for a couple more weeks, bring him up for September, and you won't lose any service time out of it.

There's a cap on the number of days a rehab stint can last. Not sure of the exact number though; it's like 10 or 15 days IIRC.

 

Hopefully nobody in the league office finds out about Angel Guzman.

[Guest]

They can keep him on rehab for a couple more weeks, bring him up for September, and you won't lose any service time out of it.

There's a cap on the number of days a rehab stint can last. Not sure of the exact number though; it's like 10 or 15 days IIRC.

 

I didn't really think that through. Even if they bring him up tomorrow, the 3 weeks of service time isn't really going to impact his FA timeline. So as long as they aren't being reckless with his health, there's no downside to bringing him back now. Like you said, he's a healthy baseball player and it's baseball season.