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I've been comparing pictures of the two to see if there's anything mechanically that could portend a career of arm troubles for Strasburg, and it's interesting to note the differences between the two. Prior had a very pronounced "inverted W" in his motion, which puts more strain on the arm (so much for his "perfect mechanics"). Checking out pics of Strasburg, he does not have the same "inverted W", but he instead appears to have a "horizontal W", with both of his elbows jammed back toward first base.

 

I haven't read anything about this type of motion, but do any of you fellas know anything about it, and whether or not this might him more susceptible to serious (and repeated) arm injuries?

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For the sake of comparison...

 

Prior, and a very pronounced Inverted W...

http://blog.prorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/mark_prior.jpg

 

And Strasburg, who has a slight inversion, but points much more toward 1B...

http://media.pennlive.com/patriotnewssports/photo/stephen-strasburg-syracusejpg-a3d01a23d9af787c_large.jpg

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For the sake of comparison...

 

Prior, and a very pronounced Inverted W...

 

why not just call it an "M"

 

I didn't make up the term. Glad you're able to add to the discussion, though.

 

chill out hosak

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Wow. The Nationals can kiss many millions of dollars goodbye. Darren Rovell had his value to Washington at around $3 million a season.

 

It's not the end of the world. TJS usually isn't a huge deal and a lot of pitchers actually comes back stronger after having it and fully recovering. Yeah, this means they won't see him next year, but next year was going to be another step in their rebuilding process anyway. This actually has a good chance of prolonging his career (and thus the money that the Nats can make off of him) and hopefully will line up nicely with when it's time to unleash Harper.

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Wow. The Nationals can kiss many millions of dollars goodbye. Darren Rovell had his value to Washington at around $3 million a season.

 

It's not the end of the world. TJS usually isn't a huge deal and a lot of pitchers actually comes back stronger after having it and fully recovering. Yeah, this means they won't see him next year, but next year was going to be another step in their rebuilding process anyway. This actually has a good chance of prolonging his career (and thus the money that the Nats can make off of him) and hopefully will line up nicely with when it's time to unleash Harper.

 

this must be covered by insurance, right? so the Nationals aren't losing all of the money they're paying him for next year.

 

Though, if you're the Nationals, while you don't want to wear him down to nothing, are you really concerned about his career when he's 30+ more than the next several years? What are the chances that he's pitching for the Nationals after this contract runs out? If he's anywhere near as good as advertised, very small, so this is pretty much the worst thing for the Nationals. It's not like a normal rookie where it's a cheap year. And if he never really comes back to 100% (or doesn't for 3-5 years), they can't even trade him for before he's a FA for nearly as much as they thought they could. I don't think there's a silver lining here for the Nats at all.

 

ETA: will they still control him at the end of this contract (after '12)? I guess maybe this makes his next contract affordable for the Nats if he doesn't pitch again until 2012.

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Wow. The Nationals can kiss many millions of dollars goodbye. Darren Rovell had his value to Washington at around $3 million a season.

 

It's not the end of the world. TJS usually isn't a huge deal and a lot of pitchers actually comes back stronger after having it and fully recovering. Yeah, this means they won't see him next year, but next year was going to be another step in their rebuilding process anyway. This actually has a good chance of prolonging his career (and thus the money that the Nats can make off of him) and hopefully will line up nicely with when it's time to unleash Harper.

 

this must be covered by insurance, right? so the Nationals aren't losing all of the money they're paying him for next year.

 

Though, if you're the Nationals, while you don't want to wear him down to nothing, are you really concerned about his career when he's 30+ more than the next several years? What are the chances that he's pitching for the Nationals after this contract runs out? If he's anywhere near as good as advertised, very small, so this is pretty much the worst thing for the Nationals. It's not like a normal rookie where it's a cheap year. And if he never really comes back to 100% (or doesn't for 3-5 years), they can't even trade him for before he's a FA for nearly as much as they thought they could. I don't think there's a silver lining here for the Nats at all.

 

He doesn't accrue service time next season right? This would extend the age at which they will lose control over him. And since they are more likely to be contenders later than next year specifically, it's not all bad.

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Wow. The Nationals can kiss many millions of dollars goodbye. Darren Rovell had his value to Washington at around $3 million a season.

 

It's not the end of the world. TJS usually isn't a huge deal and a lot of pitchers actually comes back stronger after having it and fully recovering. Yeah, this means they won't see him next year, but next year was going to be another step in their rebuilding process anyway. This actually has a good chance of prolonging his career (and thus the money that the Nats can make off of him) and hopefully will line up nicely with when it's time to unleash Harper.

 

this must be covered by insurance, right? so the Nationals aren't losing all of the money they're paying him for next year.

 

Though, if you're the Nationals, while you don't want to wear him down to nothing, are you really concerned about his career when he's 30+ more than the next several years? What are the chances that he's pitching for the Nationals after this contract runs out? If he's anywhere near as good as advertised, very small, so this is pretty much the worst thing for the Nationals. It's not like a normal rookie where it's a cheap year. And if he never really comes back to 100% (or doesn't for 3-5 years), they can't even trade him for before he's a FA for nearly as much as they thought they could. I don't think there's a silver lining here for the Nats at all.

 

He doesn't accrue service time next season right? This would extend the age at which they will lose control over him. And since they are more likely to be contenders later than next year specifically, it's not all bad.

 

yeah, i edited. i forgot his contract ended after 2012. so if they control him after this contract runs, it wouldn't be all bad.

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Wow. The Nationals can kiss many millions of dollars goodbye. Darren Rovell had his value to Washington at around $3 million a season.

 

It's not the end of the world. TJS usually isn't a huge deal and a lot of pitchers actually comes back stronger after having it and fully recovering. Yeah, this means they won't see him next year, but next year was going to be another step in their rebuilding process anyway. This actually has a good chance of prolonging his career (and thus the money that the Nats can make off of him) and hopefully will line up nicely with when it's time to unleash Harper.

 

this must be covered by insurance, right? so the Nationals aren't losing all of the money they're paying him for next year.

 

Though, if you're the Nationals, while you don't want to wear him down to nothing, are you really concerned about his career when he's 30+ more than the next several years? What are the chances that he's pitching for the Nationals after this contract runs out? If he's anywhere near as good as advertised, very small, so this is pretty much the worst thing for the Nationals. It's not like a normal rookie where it's a cheap year. And if he never really comes back to 100% (or doesn't for 3-5 years), they can't even trade him for before he's a FA for nearly as much as they thought they could. I don't think there's a silver lining here for the Nats at all.

 

He doesn't accrue service time next season right? This would extend the age at which they will lose control over him. And since they are more likely to be contenders later than next year specifically, it's not all bad.

 

Pretty sure you accrue service time while on the 60 day DL. It's how Will Ohman wound up arb-eligible after 1 season of pitching.

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yeah, i edited. i forgot his contract ended after 2012. so if they control him after this contract runs, it wouldn't be all bad.

 

He's got 1 year of service time, or less actually. Unless he gets credit for 2011 while out with injury, they will control him for 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016. He would be a free agent (unless he signs past that year) at the age of 28.

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