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All that said, Ricketts is going to be a terrible owner. This is why you don't let fans buy teams. They don't have an effing clue of how to run a sports team.

 

Ho-ly... CRAP!

 

The irony! It's just too much!

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What about Maddux? He's known all around the game as an excellent baseball mind and I think he said when he retired he wanted to stay in the game in some capacity.
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What about Maddux? He's known all around the game as an excellent baseball mind and I think he said when he retired he wanted to stay in the game in some capacity.

 

Levine mentioned him, but still that's Levine.

 

I would be on board for Torre, Pat Listach would be interesting.

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What about Maddux? He's known all around the game as an excellent baseball mind and I think he said when he retired he wanted to stay in the game in some capacity.

 

Levine mentioned him, but still that's Levine.

 

I would be on board for Torre, Pat Listach would be interesting.

 

I'm of the opinion that the more input Maddux has, the better. Would he want to bite off that much so soon? Who knows.

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All that said, Ricketts is going to be a terrible owner. This is why you don't let fans buy teams. They don't have an effing clue of how to run a sports team.

 

Ho-ly... CRAP!

 

The irony! It's just too much!

 

What's so ironic about it? Objectively I can say that most fans are too emotionally invested in a team to make the right business and personnel decisions. The Ricketts family has no experience owning a sports franchise previous to the Cubs. It seems to me like a billionaire's hobby for them.

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All that said, Ricketts is going to be a terrible owner. This is why you don't let fans buy teams. They don't have an effing clue of how to run a sports team.

 

Ho-ly... CRAP!

 

The irony! It's just too much!

 

What's so ironic about it? Objectively I can say that most fans are too emotionally invested in a team to make the right business and personnel decisions. The Ricketts family has no experience owning a sports franchise previous to the Cubs. It seems to me like a billionaire's hobby for them.

How can you not see the irony in that?

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All that said, Ricketts is going to be a terrible owner. This is why you don't let fans buy teams. They don't have an effing clue of how to run a sports team.

 

Ho-ly... CRAP!

 

The irony! It's just too much!

Someone effed up with the quotes. I never posted that. daske17 posted that in response to my question about us having the chance to hire Girardi 4 years ago.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't we have the opportunity to hire Girardi 4 years ago but instead went with Piniella because he had more experience?

 

Not exactly. We had the opportunity but Girardi was pretty open in saying that he was looking to rejoin the Yankees organization. As a GM, I'm not looking for a manager who has an eye on another job.

 

All that said, Ricketts is going to be a terrible owner. This is why you don't let fans buy teams. They don't have an effing clue of how to run a sports team.

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The message board defense rests, your honor.

 

Defense?

 

We are the prosecutors, not the snot nosed public defenders.

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What's so ironic about it? Objectively I can say that most fans are too emotionally invested in a team to make the right business and personnel decisions. The Ricketts family has no experience owning a sports franchise previous to the Cubs. It seems to me like a billionaire's hobby for them.

 

I'm sorry, but where are these scores of billionaires running around who have previous experience running a major sports franchise?

 

Guys like Reinsdorff and Cuban are the exceptions.

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What's so ironic about it? Objectively I can say that most fans are too emotionally invested in a team to make the right business and personnel decisions. The Ricketts family has no experience owning a sports franchise previous to the Cubs. It seems to me like a billionaire's hobby for them.

 

I'm sorry, but where are these scores of billionaires running around who have previous experience running a major sports franchise?

 

Guys like Reinsdorff and Cuban are the exceptions.

 

An owner's job is to put the right sports personnel in place because they lack the knowledge to do so themselves. Crane Kenney and Jim Hendry have proved they are not those people yet they still retain full confidence of the owners.

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Sandberg is going to get the job anyway. People love him, he's been groomed for the job, he wants the job. Why hire a GM that would have to use Sandberg anyway?

 

My biggest hope is that retaining Hendry another year will limit the Sandberg management era to 1 year.

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What's so ironic about it? Objectively I can say that most fans are too emotionally invested in a team to make the right business and personnel decisions. The Ricketts family has no experience owning a sports franchise previous to the Cubs. It seems to me like a billionaire's hobby for them.

 

I'm sorry, but where are these scores of billionaires running around who have previous experience running a major sports franchise?

 

Guys like Reinsdorff and Cuban are the exceptions.

 

An owner's job is to put the right sports personnel in place because they lack the knowledge to do so themselves. Crane Kenney and Jim Hendry have proved they are not those people yet they still retain full confidence of the owners.

 

I agree that Hendry should be gone sooner than later, but I'm still trying to figure out what the point was in bringing up that the Ricketts don't have previous experience owning a sports franchise. Most owners don't before they buy their team. I'm also not sure why being a fan would automatically mean that there would be bad decisions like retaining Hendry and co.. What fan out there is also a big fan of Hendry?

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Sandberg is going to get the job anyway. People love him, he's been groomed for the job, he wants the job. Why hire a GM that would have to use Sandberg anyway?

 

My biggest hope is that retaining Hendry another year will limit the Sandberg management era to 1 year.

 

As much as I rail against Sandberg, I'd rather have an extra year or two of him than of Hendry.

 

WrigleyBound tweeted last night that the Cubs need someone who realizes what they're doing isn't working, even if it's Jim Hendry. He's made some progress during his tenure, so I guess we're left to hope that he makes some better decisions.

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What's so ironic about it? Objectively I can say that most fans are too emotionally invested in a team to make the right business and personnel decisions. The Ricketts family has no experience owning a sports franchise previous to the Cubs. It seems to me like a billionaire's hobby for them.

 

I'm sorry, but where are these scores of billionaires running around who have previous experience running a major sports franchise?

 

Guys like Reinsdorff and Cuban are the exceptions.

 

An owner's job is to put the right sports personnel in place because they lack the knowledge to do so themselves. Crane Kenney and Jim Hendry have proved they are not those people yet they still retain full confidence of the owners.

 

Crane Kenney just doesn't matter in this discussion. He doesn't have anything to do with the play on the field. He's a businessman, and as far as I can tell, the business of the Cubs runs just fine.

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Crane Kenney just doesn't matter in this discussion. He doesn't have anything to do with the play on the field. He's a businessman, and as far as I can tell, the business of the Cubs runs just fine.

 

Tom Ricketts in relation to the manager search[/url]"]''Yeah, Crane will have a role in this,'' Ricketts said. ''He's got a lot of experience here, and he is in charge of all the business operations. And I think he will add a lot of value to the process.''
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Hendry and his staff will almost certainly remain for next year, you don't keep someone around and have him as the ley component through the entire interview process and then fire him.

 

My dream team would be...

 

Pat Gillick as team president:

Logan White-GM

Tim Wilken-SD

Tim Bogar-Manager

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Crane Kenney just doesn't matter in this discussion. He doesn't have anything to do with the play on the field. He's a businessman, and as far as I can tell, the business of the Cubs runs just fine.

 

Tom Ricketts in relation to the manager search[/url]"]''Yeah, Crane will have a role in this,'' Ricketts said. ''He's got a lot of experience here, and he is in charge of all the business operations. And I think he will add a lot of value to the process.''

 

He's going to be in the room when decisions are made, but he's not going to be making baseball decisions. The owner has to say the president will be involved, that doesn't mean he will be (other than how it pertains to the business side of things, ie contract details).

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All that said, Ricketts is going to be a terrible owner. This is why you don't let fans buy teams. They don't have an effing clue of how to run a sports team.

 

Ho-ly... CRAP!

 

The irony! It's just too much!

Someone effed up with the quotes. I never posted that. daske17 posted that in response to my question about us having the chance to hire Girardi 4 years ago.

 

My apologies. My reaction had nothing to do with who said it though.

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This is what I was afraid of when Ricketts came in and promptly did....................nothing.

 

 

It wasn't a good sign.

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This is what I was afraid of when Ricketts came in and promptly did....................nothing.

 

 

It wasn't a good sign.

 

Given the timing of the sale, I did not think "nothing" was a terrible idea for last offseason. Bringing Hendry back after this year however would be an inexcusable mistake.

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This is what I was afraid of when Ricketts came in and promptly did....................nothing.

 

 

It wasn't a good sign.

 

Given the timing of the sale, I did not think "nothing" was a terrible idea for last offseason. Bringing Hendry back after this year however would be an inexcusable mistake.

 

It felt like it was more than just an action-oriented person taking stock of the situation. It felt like he was a bit bewildered, and had a tendency to back off to non-action.

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