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The brewers play-by-play guy keeps implying that Gallardo is in for a tough year because since he is the opening day starter, and therefore facing an ace today he's going to face more team's "ace" pitcher the rest of the season. Didn't fangraphs or someone do a study that pretty much debunked this myth, that over the course of a season all pitchers 1-5 pretty much face the same amount of "Aces" and #2-5 starters from other teams?
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The brewers play-by-play guy keeps implying that Gallardo is in for a tough year because since he is the opening day starter, and therefore facing an ace today he's going to face more team's "ace" pitcher the rest of the season. Didn't fangraphs or someone do a study that pretty much debunked this myth, that over the course of a season all pitchers 1-5 pretty much face the same amount of "Aces" and #2-5 starters from other teams?

Isn't he the slam range guy?

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The brewers play-by-play guy keeps implying that Gallardo is in for a tough year because since he is the opening day starter, and therefore facing an ace today he's going to face more team's "ace" pitcher the rest of the season. Didn't fangraphs or someone do a study that pretty much debunked this myth, that over the course of a season all pitchers 1-5 pretty much face the same amount of "Aces" and #2-5 starters from other teams?

 

Not sure but I don't know how the opposing teams pitcher affects Gallardo unless you are talking about Gallardo's hitting or the arbitrary stat of wins.

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The brewers play-by-play guy keeps implying that Gallardo is in for a tough year because since he is the opening day starter, and therefore facing an ace today he's going to face more team's "ace" pitcher the rest of the season. Didn't fangraphs or someone do a study that pretty much debunked this myth, that over the course of a season all pitchers 1-5 pretty much face the same amount of "Aces" and #2-5 starters from other teams?

 

Not sure but I don't know how the opposing teams pitcher affects Gallardo unless you are talking about Gallardo's hitting or the arbitrary stat of wins.

It's wins and the fact that they could be wasting some of Gallardo's better starts against other teams better pitchers and might not get maximum value out of his appearances. Along those lines at least.

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The brewers play-by-play guy keeps implying that Gallardo is in for a tough year because since he is the opening day starter, and therefore facing an ace today he's going to face more team's "ace" pitcher the rest of the season. Didn't fangraphs or someone do a study that pretty much debunked this myth, that over the course of a season all pitchers 1-5 pretty much face the same amount of "Aces" and #2-5 starters from other teams?

 

Not sure but I don't know how the opposing teams pitcher affects Gallardo unless you are talking about Gallardo's hitting or the arbitrary stat of wins.

It's wins and the fact that they could be wasting some of Gallardo's better starts against other teams better pitchers and might not get maximum value out of his appearances. Along those lines at least.

 

Doesn't that go both ways? If you pitch him against a worse pitcher, and it's a laugher that the #5 guy could have won, that's a "waste" as well.

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The brewers play-by-play guy keeps implying that Gallardo is in for a tough year because since he is the opening day starter, and therefore facing an ace today he's going to face more team's "ace" pitcher the rest of the season. Didn't fangraphs or someone do a study that pretty much debunked this myth, that over the course of a season all pitchers 1-5 pretty much face the same amount of "Aces" and #2-5 starters from other teams?

 

Not sure but I don't know how the opposing teams pitcher affects Gallardo unless you are talking about Gallardo's hitting or the arbitrary stat of wins.

It's wins and the fact that they could be wasting some of Gallardo's better starts against other teams better pitchers and might not get maximum value out of his appearances. Along those lines at least.

 

Doesn't that go both ways? If you pitch him against a worse pitcher, and it's a laugher that the #5 guy could have won, that's a "waste" as well.

Yeah, I guess you are giving your team the best chance to win when he would match up against a #5. But conversely you would have a non #1 going against their #1 at some point most likely, so it evens out. Like I said I am pretty sure someone posted a report on here over the winter how most pitchers over the course of a season face close to an equal amount of 1,2,3,4, and 5 starters.

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I didn't eat lunch today because I knew Motte would be pitching at some point and it'd be coming back up.

 

Goodness, La Russa is already playing around with lineup switches. Why is Joe Mather in RF?

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The brewers play-by-play guy keeps implying that Gallardo is in for a tough year because since he is the opening day starter, and therefore facing an ace today he's going to face more team's "ace" pitcher the rest of the season. Didn't fangraphs or someone do a study that pretty much debunked this myth, that over the course of a season all pitchers 1-5 pretty much face the same amount of "Aces" and #2-5 starters from other teams?

 

I don't know if you'd call it a study, but we looked into it here, and saw there was no real difference in what starter you faced. It's common sense with teams juggling rotations, off-days, doubleheaders, injuries, that there's not going to be a correlation.

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Alright, that was a pretty ridiculous defensive play by Buerhle. Takes a grounder off the shin, ball rolls into foul territory, he runs over and flips it with his glove between his legs to Konerko behind him, who barehands it, for the out.
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Chris Dickerson sucks, the longer he stays in the leadoff spot for the Reds the better.

Why isn't Stubbs leading off? Too hot?

Can't handle the heat man. Also the longer Cabrera bats 2nd the better as well.

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