College Basketball 2010-11

[Sosa21MVP]

2011 guard Matt Carlino has re-opened his commitment.

 

http://www.insidethehall.com/2010/03/25/matt-carlino-opens-up-his-recruitment/

 

So yeah I have no idea what the hell is going on now. :blink:

[soapy]

I want to be clear I don't think Watford is dogmeat or something. He's going to be a good player at IU. I'm thrilled to have him. But he showed absolutely no explosiveness whatsoever this year. Elston had probably twice as many dunks this year in half as many minutes. That's not completely dispositive, but at least circumstantial.

 

I'm inclined to think that Watford will be able to improve a bit in both explosiveness (particularly rebounding and dunking) and getting shots blocked with the proper weight and agility training. I'm certainly not aware of what training either he or Elston did before arriving at IU, but Elston certainly looks the part of a player who has already dedicated significant time to weight training. Watford seems to have a lot of room at add muscle to his frame. Obviously that's highly subjective, but just my opinion.

[soapy]

2011 guard Matt Carlino has re-opened his commitment.

 

http://www.insidethehall.com/2010/03/25/matt-carlino-opens-up-his-recruitment/

 

So yeah I have no idea what the hell is going on now. :blink:

 

wtf

[illiniguy]

2011 guard Matt Carlino has re-opened his commitment.

 

http://www.insidethehall.com/2010/03/25/matt-carlino-opens-up-his-recruitment/

 

So yeah I have no idea what the hell is going on now. :blink:

 

wtf

I am not suprised this is happening. Crean did an interview not to long ago and talked about running certain kids off the team to make room for more that were more talented. You can't say that even if you are doing it without some kids getting turned off big time.

[Exile on Waveland]

2011 guard Matt Carlino has re-opened his commitment.

 

http://www.insidethehall.com/2010/03/25/matt-carlino-opens-up-his-recruitment/

 

So yeah I have no idea what the hell is going on now. :blink:

 

wtf

 

If you look at this in a vacuum only -- which is difficult because of various strange/negative happenings with the program -- this is likely a positive. At this point, I think an open scholarship for 2011/12 has more value than Matt Carlino. Now, a similar situation with Austin Etherington will lead to a different opinion.

[SouthSideRyan]

2011 guard Matt Carlino has re-opened his commitment.

 

http://www.insidethehall.com/2010/03/25/matt-carlino-opens-up-his-recruitment/

 

So yeah I have no idea what the hell is going on now. :blink:

 

wtf

 

If you look at this in a vacuum only -- which is difficult because of various strange/negative happenings with the program -- this is likely a positive. At this point, I think an open scholarship for 2011/12 has more value than Matt Carlino. Now, a similar situation with Austin Etherington will lead to a different opinion.

 

Is there any validity to Etherington leaving? I saw it on the free peegs board, but I haven't had my toilet paper confirm the source yet.

[Exile on Waveland]

2011 guard Matt Carlino has re-opened his commitment.

 

http://www.insidethehall.com/2010/03/25/matt-carlino-opens-up-his-recruitment/

 

So yeah I have no idea what the hell is going on now. :blink:

 

wtf

 

If you look at this in a vacuum only -- which is difficult because of various strange/negative happenings with the program -- this is likely a positive. At this point, I think an open scholarship for 2011/12 has more value than Matt Carlino. Now, a similar situation with Austin Etherington will lead to a different opinion.

 

Is there any validity to Etherington leaving? I saw it on the free peegs board, but I haven't had my toilet paper confirm the source yet.

 

Honestly, who knows? I have heard the rumor, but only from peegs randos and not from any credible source. Doesn't mean it won't happen; I sure hope it doesn't though.

[rawaction]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

[Exile on Waveland]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

 

He's actually not from Bloomington, though. He's from Arizona and only moved to Bloomington last year subsequent to committing to IU (which makes this situation all the more perplexing/disconcerting).

 

Regardless, there are better available guards in Indiana in the Class of 2011 than Carlino (Rivals #122): Marquis Teague (#2) and Jeremiah Davis (#40). Cody Zeller (#35) is also available. That's to say nothing of the loaded Class of 2012 (including guards Ron Patterson, Gary Harris, D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera, Yogi Ferrell, etc). Indiana is in a serious scholarship crunch -- at exactly the worst time -- with scholarships filled almost exclusively by role players. I don't have a looking glass into Carlino's future, but losing another prospective role player isn't earth shattering. At this point in time, one in the hand isn't worth two in the bush. Top-150 guards pretty much grow on trees.

[Smack]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

 

Don't a lot of kids want to get away from home?

[Exile on Waveland]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

 

Don't a lot of kids want to get away from home?

 

Yes, of course. But see above. Bloomington's not home for Carlino.

[Smack]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

 

Don't a lot of kids want to get away from home?

 

Yes, of course. But see above. Bloomington's not home for Carlino.

 

Ah gotcha, I just meant in general. I thought raw was making a more general point beyond Carlino.

[Exile on Waveland]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

 

Don't a lot of kids want to get away from home?

 

Yes, of course. But see above. Bloomington's not home for Carlino.

 

Ah gotcha, I just meant in general. I thought raw was making a more general point beyond Carlino.

 

On second though, you're almost certainly right. Apologies.

[SouthSideRyan]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

 

He's actually not from Bloomington, though. He's from Arizona and only moved to Bloomington last year subsequent to committing to IU (which makes this situation all the more perplexing/disconcerting).

 

Regardless, there are better available guards in Indiana in the Class of 2011 than Carlino (Rivals #122): Marquis Teague (#2) and Jeremiah Davis (#40). Cody Zeller (#35) is also available. That's to say nothing of the loaded Class of 2012 (including guards Ron Patterson, Gary Harris, D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera, Yogi Ferrell, etc). Indiana is in a serious scholarship crunch -- at exactly the worst time -- with scholarships filled almost exclusively by role players. I don't have a looking glass into Carlino's future, but losing another prospective role player isn't earth shattering. At this point in time, one in the hand isn't worth two in the bush. Top-150 guards pretty much grow on trees.

 

Scout's still got him as a 4 star, I think this is a bigger deal than you think. Beyond the loss of the indivudal player, I think it looks bad to have guys de-committ unless you immediately follow with a replacement. I don't see IU having much of a chance for the 3 recruits listed above.

[Exile on Waveland]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

 

He's actually not from Bloomington, though. He's from Arizona and only moved to Bloomington last year subsequent to committing to IU (which makes this situation all the more perplexing/disconcerting).

 

Regardless, there are better available guards in Indiana in the Class of 2011 than Carlino (Rivals #122): Marquis Teague (#2) and Jeremiah Davis (#40). Cody Zeller (#35) is also available. That's to say nothing of the loaded Class of 2012 (including guards Ron Patterson, Gary Harris, D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera, Yogi Ferrell, etc). Indiana is in a serious scholarship crunch -- at exactly the worst time -- with scholarships filled almost exclusively by role players. I don't have a looking glass into Carlino's future, but losing another prospective role player isn't earth shattering. At this point in time, one in the hand isn't worth two in the bush. Top-150 guards pretty much grow on trees.

 

Scout's still got him as a 4 star, I think this is a bigger deal than you think. Beyond the loss of the indivudal player, I think it looks bad to have guys de-committ unless you immediately follow with a replacement. I don't see IU having much of a chance for the 3 recruits listed above.

 

1. I think it looks really bad. Really, really bad.

 

2. Having seen him play multiple times, not only do I feel pretty comfortable saying he's not what I'd consider a four-star player, he's also pretty redundant to what IU has currently and likely will have in the future. I wish he was had been eligible the last two years and next year, I just don't think that sentiment extends to the four years he actually would be.

 

3. I don't think IU has much of a chance with Teague. However, Rivals/Peegs puts them in the top-two for Davis (along with Michigan State) and at least top-three (Butler, North Carolina) if not top-two (Butler) for Zeller. While I think Michigan State and Butler are the respective leaders at this point, IU certainly has a strong chance at either.

[rawaction]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

 

He's actually not from Bloomington, though. He's from Arizona and only moved to Bloomington last year subsequent to committing to IU (which makes this situation all the more perplexing/disconcerting).

 

Regardless, there are better available guards in Indiana in the Class of 2011 than Carlino (Rivals #122): Marquis Teague (#2) and Jeremiah Davis (#40). Cody Zeller (#35) is also available. That's to say nothing of the loaded Class of 2012 (including guards Ron Patterson, Gary Harris, D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera, Yogi Ferrell, etc). Indiana is in a serious scholarship crunch -- at exactly the worst time -- with scholarships filled almost exclusively by role players. I don't have a looking glass into Carlino's future, but losing another prospective role player isn't earth shattering. At this point in time, one in the hand isn't worth two in the bush. Top-150 guards pretty much grow on trees.

 

Scout's still got him as a 4 star, I think this is a bigger deal than you think. Beyond the loss of the indivudal player, I think it looks bad to have guys de-committ unless you immediately follow with a replacement. I don't see IU having much of a chance for the 3 recruits listed above.

 

1. I think it looks really bad. Really, really bad.

 

2. Having seen him play multiple times, not only do I feel pretty comfortable saying he's not what I'd consider a four-star player, he's also pretty redundant to what IU has currently and likely will have in the future. I wish he was had been eligible the last two years and next year, I just don't think that sentiment extends to the four years he actually would be.

 

3. I don't think IU has much of a chance with Teague. However, Rivals/Peegs puts them in the top-two for Davis (along with Michigan State) and at least top-three (Butler, North Carolina) if not top-two (Butler) for Zeller. While I think Michigan State and Butler are the respective leaders at this point, IU certainly has a strong chance at either.

 

I thought Zeller was leaning toward IU w/ Davis leaning toward Michigan St. I also thought they were at least still being considered by Teague.

[Exile on Waveland]

Any coach that can't get a halfway decent recruit from Bloomington to go to IU should be fired on the spot.

 

He's actually not from Bloomington, though. He's from Arizona and only moved to Bloomington last year subsequent to committing to IU (which makes this situation all the more perplexing/disconcerting).

 

Regardless, there are better available guards in Indiana in the Class of 2011 than Carlino (Rivals #122): Marquis Teague (#2) and Jeremiah Davis (#40). Cody Zeller (#35) is also available. That's to say nothing of the loaded Class of 2012 (including guards Ron Patterson, Gary Harris, D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera, Yogi Ferrell, etc). Indiana is in a serious scholarship crunch -- at exactly the worst time -- with scholarships filled almost exclusively by role players. I don't have a looking glass into Carlino's future, but losing another prospective role player isn't earth shattering. At this point in time, one in the hand isn't worth two in the bush. Top-150 guards pretty much grow on trees.

 

Scout's still got him as a 4 star, I think this is a bigger deal than you think. Beyond the loss of the indivudal player, I think it looks bad to have guys de-committ unless you immediately follow with a replacement. I don't see IU having much of a chance for the 3 recruits listed above.

 

1. I think it looks really bad. Really, really bad.

 

2. Having seen him play multiple times, not only do I feel pretty comfortable saying he's not what I'd consider a four-star player, he's also pretty redundant to what IU has currently and likely will have in the future. I wish he was had been eligible the last two years and next year, I just don't think that sentiment extends to the four years he actually would be.

 

3. I don't think IU has much of a chance with Teague. However, Rivals/Peegs puts them in the top-two for Davis (along with Michigan State) and at least top-three (Butler, North Carolina) if not top-two (Butler) for Zeller. While I think Michigan State and Butler are the respective leaders at this point, IU certainly has a strong chance at either.

 

I thought Zeller was leaning toward IU w/ Davis leaning toward Michigan St. I also thought they were at least still being considered by Teague.

 

Teague is still considering IU, but I just can't really envision him winding up in Bloomington with the state of the program. Zeller may be leaning to IU, the Butler thing is more of a gut feeling on my part.

[SouthSideRyan]

I thought Zeller was a Butler lean, and kinda had the feeling if UNC ever felt like going full court on him they'd get him, but you guys know better than I

[Exile on Waveland]

I thought Zeller was a Butler lean, and kinda had the feeling if UNC ever felt like going full court on him they'd get him, but you guys know better than I

 

You guys (plural)? I just said Butler's leading. I think he'll end up there.

[soapy]

I thought Zeller was a Butler lean, and kinda had the feeling if UNC ever felt like going full court on him they'd get him, but you guys know better than I

 

You guys (plural)? I just said Butler's leading. I think he'll end up there.

 

I've mainly heard he's leaning Butler too, which makes me sorta sick.

[Sosa21MVP]

I thought the Zeller family was notorious for not tipping their hand so I don't really believe anyone who claims to know which way he is leaning at this point. Not that I would be shocked if he chose Butler, I mean it could certainly happen.

 

The lines of thought regarding Carlino that I've been reading are he misses being out west and there is also speculation that he is not happy with Crean continuing to recruit PG as if that is an indication he wouldn't be playing the point at IU and Matt apparently fancies himself a bonafide 1.

 

It really doesn't look good any way you cut it though unless Crean lands a really big time recruit with that scholarship.

[fiver]

IU basketball news is like porn for SSR these days I imagine.

[Smack]

Patrick Bade scored 51 points in 247 minutes this season, he also had 51 personal fouls. I really hope he sits out next year, or doesn't see the court much. He was pressed into action this year, I'll give him that much, but he's in over his head.

[Guest]

Damn! I didn't realize how all out DePaul is going for a new coach. Thier budget is 1M per year and they will go over that depending on the coach. Man, they have to get this right to get the program on the right track.

 

They offered Ben Howland $2.5M+.

[Magnetic Curses]

I really hope Howland stays put. Dude, it's cold in the Midwest.