Cubs Sign Xavier Nady 1/3.3 with 2 in incentives

[SouthSideRyan]

In case anyone was wondering, the answer is yes. Rudy Jaramillo will make a superstar out of Xavier Nady.

 

 

It would be nice for the Cubs to get a guy to come off serious injury and blossom, and not the Cards.

 

Like Kerry Wood '08?

[Guest]

Dempster?

[Backtobanks]

Great signing by Hendry. Compare the numbers of Bay and Nady from 2007 & 2008 seasons in Pittsburgh:

 

2007- Nady .278/.330/.476/.805

Bay .247/.327/.418/.746

 

2008- Nady .305/.357/.510/.867

Bay .282/.375/.519/.894

Bay .293/.370/.527/.897 in 49 games with Red Sox after trade.

 

Obviously things happened after 2008, but for those 2 years together in Pittsburgh you could make an argument for Nady being as good as Bay.

[SouthSideRyan]

Great signing by Hendry. Compare the numbers of Bay and Nady from 2007 & 2008 seasons in Pittsburgh:

 

2007- Nady .278/.330/.476/.805

Bay .247/.327/.418/.746

 

2008- Nady .305/.357/.510/.867

Bay .282/.375/.519/.894

Bay .293/.370/.527/.897 in 49 games with Red Sox after trade.

 

Obviously things happened after 2008, but for those 2 years together in Pittsburgh you could make an argument for Nady being as good as Bay.

 

There were also a hell of a lot of years before 2007 showing Bay to be superior.

[AlwaysaCub]

The best number in the contract is 1, the number of years. This price is completely reasonable, especially when you consider how much we need a decent 4th outfielder given the injury risk to Soriano, the possibility that Byrd sucks, and need to platoon Fukudome. He's a little light on on-base skills but has always posted decent averages. We could certainly use the power off the bench.

 

This is the first undoubtedly good move Hendry has made in a while IMO. Hopefully it doesn't end up being a figurative leak patching when the entire dam is about to burst.

[Rob]

Great signing by Hendry. Compare the numbers of Bay and Nady from 2007 & 2008 seasons in Pittsburgh:

 

2007- Nady .278/.330/.476/.805

Bay .247/.327/.418/.746

 

2008- Nady .305/.357/.510/.867

Bay .282/.375/.519/.894

Bay .293/.370/.527/.897 in 49 games with Red Sox after trade.

 

Obviously things happened after 2008, but for those 2 years together in Pittsburgh you could make an argument for Nady being as good as Bay.

 

Bay was quite a bit better in the previous years, and was simply fighting a nasty knee injury at the time.

[PrimeTime]

Roto

 

According to Jon Heyman of SI.com, free agent outfielder Jermaine Dye was talking to the Cubs before they signed Xavier Nady.

 

Of course, it won't happen now. Heyman suggests that San Diego or Cincinnati could be possible alternatives for Dye, but the Padres are likely at their limit now that they signed Jon Garland. The Reds are still unsettled in left field, but they could probably bring Jonny Gomes back for less money than it would cost to sign Dye.

[Peoriaman]

Terrific signing. I suspect between RF, LF and 1B and pinchhitting, he will play 120 games.

[JonJayCutler]

I'm not sure why there are some people in this thread acting as if Nady will be playing the whole season at 100%. His agent can say he'll be ready by ST all he wants, but a second TJS is serious no matter which position you play. Perhaps they have more confidence that Hendry did his medical research than I do. And while there is definitely potential for this to work out very nicely, there is also a chance we just threw 3.3 million down the drain.

[dew1679666265]

I'm not sure why there are some people in this thread acting as if Nady will be playing the whole season at 100%. His agent can say he'll be ready by ST all he wants, but a second TJS is serious no matter which position you play. Perhaps they have more confidence that Hendry did his medical research than I do. And while there is definitely potential for this to work out very nicely, there is also a chance we just threw 3.3 million down the drain.

 

A chance, but not much of one. Players have a roughly 80-90% chance of recovering from TJS and for position players it's roughly 6 months (according to an earlier link) to heal from it. It's been more than 6 months since he had the surgery done (or will be by the start of the season).

 

He may be slow to produce early on, but he should be fine as the season progresses.

[JonJayCutler]

Players have a roughly 80-90% chance of recovering from TJS and for position players it's roughly 6 months (according to an earlier link) to heal from it.

 

Even for a second TJS? I've heard many times that a second TJS comes with a lower success rate than the initial TJS.

[davell]

The Yankees supposedly said they would have signed Nady to this deal, but weren't given these parametets to get the deal done.

[inari]

Players have a roughly 80-90% chance of recovering from TJS and for position players it's roughly 6 months (according to an earlier link) to heal from it.

 

Even for a second TJS? I've heard many times that a second TJS comes with a lower success rate than the initial TJS.

 

I think there's a reason you're the only one harping on injuries. TJS simply doesn't mean much to a hitter long-term, it really shouldn't be a problem.

[dew1679666265]

Players have a roughly 80-90% chance of recovering from TJS and for position players it's roughly 6 months (according to an earlier link) to heal from it.

 

Even for a second TJS? I've heard many times that a second TJS comes with a lower success rate than the initial TJS.

 

If there was anything wrong with him, wouldn't the Cubs have found it? If he didn't check out on the physical the Cubs wouldn't have signed him. And even if he's a little slow to return to form this year (which is possible) he's still a significantly better option than a 36-year old declining Jermaine Dye.

[Backtobanks]

I'm not sure why there are some people in this thread acting as if Nady will be playing the whole season at 100%. His agent can say he'll be ready by ST all he wants, but a second TJS is serious no matter which position you play. Perhaps they have more confidence that Hendry did his medical research than I do. And while there is definitely potential for this to work out very nicely, there is also a chance we just threw 3.3 million down the drain.

 

With the budget leash that Hendry has, I'm sure he checked the medical records carefully. There would be no reason to take on a serious injury risk with Gomes, Dye, Baldelli, and Johnson available.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm not sure why there are some people in this thread acting as if Nady will be playing the whole season at 100%. His agent can say he'll be ready by ST all he wants, but a second TJS is serious no matter which position you play. Perhaps they have more confidence that Hendry did his medical research than I do. And while there is definitely potential for this to work out very nicely, there is also a chance we just threw 3.3 million down the drain.

 

Not really. The Cubs have little money to spend so they're not just going to toss it out there for a guy that could be useless. Yes, it makes sense he could be behind the curve coming back at the beginning, but the Cubs aren't going to throw money at him if he didn't pass physically with other options out there also on the cheap and without the recent TJS.

[Shilzzz]

How can you hate a guy with a name like X Nady?

 

I'm not going to stop hating on every other offseason move for the last couple years, but I can't bag on the old sack of crap we call our GM for this particular move. \:D/

 

Boof Bonser of the Cubs.

 

Seriously though, finally a decent signing this offseason. Unfortunately it's for a backup guy.

[AlwaysaCub]

It probably won't matter to us, because his elbow should hold up through the 1-2 seasons he'll end up playing for the Cubs, but you gotta wonder why a position player would need TJ surgery. He must have the worst throwing motion in the world.

[TruffleShuffle]

It probably won't matter to us, because his elbow should hold up through the 1-2 seasons he'll end up playing for the Cubs, but you gotta wonder why a position player would need TJ surgery. He must have the worst throwing motion in the world.

 

off the top of my head i could name at least a dozen position players who have had TJ surgery. that being said, i'm not sure i could name another one who has had two.

[Rob]

Terrific signing. I suspect between RF, LF and 1B and pinchhitting, he will play 120 games.

 

I hope most of that's not in the field.

 

That's not meant to be a real slight to Nady, but if he's getting that kind of playing time... well, that means our better options (Fukudome, Soriano, and Lee) are either injured or not performing.

[Soul]

I heard Xavier took his physical yesterday. Any word?

[Splendid Splinter]

off the top of my head i could name at least a dozen position players who have had TJ surgery. that being said, i'm not sure i could name another one who has had two.

 

 

Vance Wilson had 2 TJS... He's the only one I know of for sure... I think Jay Payton is another (he's similar to Nady that he had his first in the minors and I want to believe that Payton had a TJS this past year as well, but I could be wrong on that), but Vance Wilson is the only positional player I know with 2 TJS. I think he has a minor league deal with the Royals this year.

 

also... I read an article about Vance Wilson about when he got his 2nd TJS and he asked his doctor on what are the chances of the TJS to be successful and the doctor said something like 10%-25% after the 2nd one... although in the article, it mentioned that Wilson had more than just TJS when he got fixed, it sounded like he completely blew out his elbow both time (like he torn a different ligaments on top of TJS) and he did it within a year as well instead of like Nady where it was like 8 years apart)... I'll have to find the link somewhere... I think Nady has at least a 25% chance to be successful after his TJS...

 

If that's the case... I don't know how Nady will pass his physical and hopefully Hendry is still talking to Dye/Gomes/etc as a backup plan...

[dew1679666265]

According to Wikipedia (keep that in mind), there are 19 position players who have had TJS. The only two position players to have it twice were Wilson and Nady.

 

However, there are 12 pitchers who have had it done 2-3 times.

[jersey cubs fan]

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/3349

 

Nady deal official.

[dew1679666265]

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/3349

 

Nady deal official.

 

He obviously must have passed the physical then. Good.