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Masoli completed his credit hours and graduated this summer, so he's looking for another team to let him play for a year as a graduate student. Ole Miss has turned him away.

 

Any team looking for a convicted criminal to line up under center for a season?

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I did not know that.
@schadjoe[/url]"]It appears USCs decision to return its version of the trophy was USCs decision.

 

Reggie Bush of course has his own copy of that trophy.

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Marcel Dareus of Alabama is (at least) player #3 to be investigated by the NCAA for the South Beach party hosted by an agent:

 

espn.com[/url]"]TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- University of Alabama officials are investigating whether junior defensive lineman Marcel Dareus broke NCAA rules by attending an agent's party in Miami's South Beach earlier this summer, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

 

Dareus, ranked as the No. 7 prospect for the 2011 NFL draft by ESPN analyst Mel Kiper, is the latest prominent college football player to be entangled in an evolving NCAA investigation into illegal contact and conduct by sports agents.

 

"Our [university] compliance people are looking into it," Alabama coach Nick Saban said.

 

Sources told ESPN last week that NCAA investigators have interviewed North Carolina players, including defensive end Marvin Austin, about attending the party. South Carolina tight end Weslye Saunders also confirmed to ESPN on Sunday that he recently spoke with NCAA investigators about the same party.

 

The NCAA is trying to determine who paid for the players' transportation to Miami and lodging, food and entertainment while they were there.

 

I love that a Twitter post from one player was the big factor in getting this investigation rolling. There's less than 10 people in the department that investigates these kinds of things and that Twitter post was just served up on a platter for them.

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Marcell Dareus has been declared ineligible by the NCAA.

 

TideSports.com[/url]"]HOOVER | University of Alabama defensive end Marcell Dareus has been declared ineligible and is believed to be the only UA player who attended a party in Miami hosted by a sports agent, a source close to the situation told The Tuscaloosa News.

 

UA will petition immediately for the reinstatement of Dareus' eligibility. The NCAA will make the ultimate ruling on when, or if, Dareus will be reinstated. It is standard procedure for a player to be declared ineligible immediately whenever a question of whether the player violated NCAA rules arises.

Saban had quite a few things to say about agents at SEC media day today.

 

I agree with him that the NCAA needs to work with the NFL to hold agents accountable.

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Marcell Dareus has been declared ineligible by the NCAA.

 

TideSports.com[/url]"]HOOVER | University of Alabama defensive end Marcell Dareus has been declared ineligible and is believed to be the only UA player who attended a party in Miami hosted by a sports agent, a source close to the situation told The Tuscaloosa News.

 

UA will petition immediately for the reinstatement of Dareus' eligibility. The NCAA will make the ultimate ruling on when, or if, Dareus will be reinstated. It is standard procedure for a player to be declared ineligible immediately whenever a question of whether the player violated NCAA rules arises.

Saban had quite a few things to say about agents at SEC media day today.

 

I agree with him that the NCAA needs to work with the NFL to hold agents accountable.

 

That will also mean they will need to hold boosters more accountable too and in a more timely fashion.

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Marcell Dareus has been declared ineligible by the NCAA.

 

TideSports.com[/url]"]HOOVER | University of Alabama defensive end Marcell Dareus has been declared ineligible and is believed to be the only UA player who attended a party in Miami hosted by a sports agent, a source close to the situation told The Tuscaloosa News.

 

UA will petition immediately for the reinstatement of Dareus' eligibility. The NCAA will make the ultimate ruling on when, or if, Dareus will be reinstated. It is standard procedure for a player to be declared ineligible immediately whenever a question of whether the player violated NCAA rules arises.

Saban had quite a few things to say about agents at SEC media day today.

 

I agree with him that the NCAA needs to work with the NFL to hold agents accountable.

 

That will also mean they will need to hold boosters more accountable too and in a more timely fashion.

They at least have the ability to control boosters. Agents can do whatever they want and can't get punished.

 

Georgia, it's your turn.

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Marvin Austin's Twitter is going to screw up about a half dozen programs in the East, isn't it?
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SI[/url]"]Only two groups have the power to make a dent. The NFL Players Association decides who is allowed to represent NFL players and can yank the certification of an unscrupulous agent, but it has no dominion over financial advisors, marketers and the other remoras that circle potential NFL players hoping to siphon off scraps. (It should be noted that Lloyd Lake and Michael Michaels, the central figures in the Bush case, were not agents but marketers.) Truly, the only people who can police the larger group are the actual police.

 

In January, Illinois will become the 39th state to adopt the Uniform Athlete Agents Act, which calls for stiff penalties for anyone who passes himself off as a representative without a state license or for anyone who pays a college athlete with eligibility remaining. Since California, Michigan and Ohio already have their own non-UAAA laws, that leaves only eight states (Alaska, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Vermont and Virginia) that don't regulate agents.

 

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That brings us to the NFLPA, which does have a measure of power. Wednesday, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith went on ESPN Radio's Mike and Mike in the Morning and said his organization wouldn't tolerate agents paying college players. "That's an insidious problem," Smith said. "Any agent or contract advisor who does that and preys upon kids like that in college is something we're going to deal with extremely aggressively. ... They'd get crushed on our side."

 

But they haven't been. Nalley received a two-year ban in 1998 for paying Enis, but most of the NFLPA's recent high-profile suspensions were for agent misconduct involving players already in the league. Even when the organization tried to help -- in 2006, it banned agent contact until after a player's junior season in college -- it backfired. The rule put the scrupulous agents at a disadvantage against the rule-breakers, and it had to be amended. Plus, the NFLPA only regulates contract advisors, and most of the dirty ones are smart enough to use intermediaries to avoid a direct connection between agent and player.

 

The only people who can stop those intermediaries work in law enforcement. Most states can charge runners or marketers with a felony for acting as an agent without a state license. It would behoove the NCAA to call in law enforcement in every agent case, because prosecutors have the subpoena power the NCAA doesn't.

 

In at least two of the cases currently under review by the NCAA, law enforcement has gotten involved. The University of Florida police department is investigating an accusation that former Gators center Maurkice Pouncey took money in December. (Pouncey has denied the claim.) Also, North Carolina attorney general Elaine Marshall on Wednesday announced she would launch an investigation into agents at the University of North Carolina, where NCAA enforcement staffers interviewed several players last week about possible impermissible benefits. Marshall will leave the eligibility issues to the NCAA; she only wants to know what the agents did.

 

"We'll be investigating the agents," Marshall told WTVD-TV. "We will not be investigating the school."

 

If someone goes to jail in Florida or North Carolina for this, it might slow the flow of money from agents to players. The loss of freedom is a far worse punishment than the loss of a license.

 

The coaches and commissioners can talk all they want about pimps, but they're powerless here. Until law enforcement agencies begin treating unscrupulous agents and runners the way they treat actual pimps, nothing is going to change.

It would seem like going after such agents would earn an attorney general or law enforcement officer some political points in public image. Hopefully it happens more frequently.

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Notre Dame and Miami will play in Chicago in 2012, at ND in 2016, and at Miami on Thanksgiving weekend 2017. The latter is the best news - ND hasn't had a marquee game after USC in odd-numbered years (when they play at ND in October) in quite a while. The 2012 schedule now has USC, Michigan, Miami and Oklahoma (assuming the latter is finalized) on it. Not too bad.

 

Also, Pat Haden is mercifully leaving the NBC ND booth to be AD at USC, where he was previously on the board of trustees.

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Looks like Jeremiah Masoli is going to be at Ole Miss in the fall to complete his last year of eligibility. Not sure how I feel about it. On the one hand, I'm not a fan of guys on the team with those types of character issues. However, I don't think our staff was expecting Jevan Snead to leave, so Ole Miss has no QB with any experience right now. We still have an exceptional defense, but with the loss of McCluster and a veteran QB (albeit a sketchy one like Snead), the offense sure could use a boost with Masoli. Nutt has done good things with this program so far, so I think I'll trust in whatever decision he makes at this point.
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Looks like Jeremiah Masoli is going to be at Ole Miss in the fall to complete his last year of eligibility. Not sure how I feel about it. On the one hand, I'm not a fan of guys on the team with those types of character issues. However, I don't think our staff was expecting Jevan Snead to leave, so Ole Miss has no QB with any experience right now. We still have an exceptional defense, but with the loss of McCluster and a veteran QB (albeit a sketchy one like Snead), the offense sure could use a boost with Masoli. Nutt has done good things with this program so far, so I think I'll trust in whatever decision he makes at this point.

 

You probably heard this, but Raymond Cotton transferred. I'd say that helped convince Nutt to take a shot with Masoli. It'll be interesting if Masoli gets into a game to see him run a non-spread option offense.

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Masoli's way overrated.

 

People tried to put him on that Dennis Dixon level at Oregon...no, no way. Not even close. Until someone figures out how to stop that Oregon offensive scheme consistently any QB there is going to put up numbers.

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Haven't been following this thread too closely, so sorry if this has been mentioned, but Penn State will host Navy in 2012.
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is there a significance to that game that I'm missing?

 

Penn State playing a non-con game against a team that has made a bowl game in the last decade.

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is there a significance to that game that I'm missing?

 

Penn State playing a non-con game against a team that has made a bowl game in the last decade.

 

I mean, if it were a non-conference away game, that would be worth pointing out. But this?

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