NCAA Conference Realignment

[TruffleShuffle]

everyone's schedule would become tougher if the cubs disappeared, but that doesn't mean it would be economically good for major league baseball.

[UMFan83]

I would have easily taken Utah and Boise State over Air Force and BYU.

[tadowdaddy]

In this, basketball means ZERO. Football means everything. OU and Texas will keep dominating this conference, but won't get the same money they got with NU and CU around. OU really needs to look out for itself and leave.

 

 

Sorry to break it to you, but they'll be more than doubling what they got with CU and NU around with the new deal. The conference schedule for the North based teams just got much tougher with NU and CU leaving.

Without those TV sets, how do they get the money? You really underestimate what Nebraska meant to the Big XII.

 

 

Not buying it... The contract is GUARANTEED. That means these teams are SURE to get anywhere between 15-17 mil a year (KU, KSU, ISU, BU, Mizzou, TT, OSU) and 20+ Mil a year (OU, aTm, and UT). They currently receive between 7-10 mil a year from their TV contract, and that was WITH CU and NU. Spin it any which way you want, but you are dead wrong.

[tadowdaddy]

everyone's schedule would become tougher if the cubs disappeared, but that doesn't mean it would be economically good for major league baseball.

 

Thank you for making me laugh.

[TruffleShuffle]

I would have easily taken Utah and Boise State over Air Force and BYU.

 

one of the utah schools and boise st would have been a better solution, but i don't think boise st is really in a position to leave the conference it joined like three days ago. the idea of air force in a bcs conference is comical and should have been a red flag to anyone who heard that report.

[CubInOK]

I would have easily taken Utah and Boise State over Air Force and BYU.

I'd take Utah or Boise State over Air Force. BYU is fine though.

[TruffleShuffle]

Not buying it... The contract is GUARANTEED. That means these teams are SURE to get anywhere between 15-17 mil a year (KU, KSU, ISU, BU, Mizzou, TT, OSU) and 20+ Mil a year (OU, aTm, and UT). They currently receive between 7-10 mil a year from their TV contract, and that was WITH CU and NU. Spin it any which way you want, but you are dead wrong.

 

yeah but it's not like they're getting all this extra money because CU and NU left... they're getting it because fox is desperate and apparently doesn't care if they lose many millions a year as long as they can put some college football on the air for a few months.

[CubInOK]

Not buying it... The contract is GUARANTEED. That means these teams are SURE to get anywhere between 15-17 mil a year (KU, KSU, ISU, BU, Mizzou, TT, OSU) and 20+ Mil a year (OU, aTm, and UT). They currently receive between 7-10 mil a year from their TV contract, and that was WITH CU and NU. Spin it any which way you want, but you are dead wrong.

 

yeah but it's not like they're getting all this extra money because CU and NU left... they're getting it because fox is desperate and apparently doesn't care if they lose many millions a year as long as they can put some college football on the air for a few months.

Yea, the math REALLY doesn't add up here.

[tadowdaddy]

Not buying it... The contract is GUARANTEED. That means these teams are SURE to get anywhere between 15-17 mil a year (KU, KSU, ISU, BU, Mizzou, TT, OSU) and 20+ Mil a year (OU, aTm, and UT). They currently receive between 7-10 mil a year from their TV contract, and that was WITH CU and NU. Spin it any which way you want, but you are dead wrong.

 

yeah but it's not like they're getting all this extra money because CU and NU left... they're getting it because fox is desperate and apparently doesn't care if they lose many millions a year as long as they can put some college football on the air for a few months.

 

 

Unfortunately, you're wrong. The contract was estimated to be worth between 13-15 million dollars per team when it was being discussed about a month ago as a Big 12/Pac 10 shared network at the Big 12 meetings. The dollar values have risen because Cu and NU left. In order to keep the conference in tact, if fox wanted the contract, they now have to pay them like they'd be paid in the SEC, Big 10, or Pac 10. The conference had more bargaining power now (pay or else we leave and you get no deal) than they had if no defections had happened at all. If they didn't like the deal they were presented, it's bye bye Big 12 and no contract for Fox.

[tadowdaddy]

& by the way, I'm now hearing the contract is most likely with Fox, not just FSN. This means national prime time games on Thursday night, and potentially all day Saturday (2 afternoon/1 night). Thus, the network (on top of having it's own Big 12 channel) will be getting nationally broadcasted games. That's a no lose situation and a reason to be worried for ESPN and ABC. I don't care who the teams are, if there is another option to watch on Thursday night and Saturday, ESPN and ABC will lose some viewers, regardless of the number, they're losing some. People are really hush hush right now on the network is really is, so this is an assumption from my source. Edited June 14, 2010 by tadowdaddy

[Exile on Waveland]

Stopping at Nebraska would be a hilarious misstep by the Big Ten. Adding a has been program with no eyeballs does absolutely nothing for them, and it wastes their best effort to actually get the school they've always wanted.

 

Nebraska is Forbes No. 4 most valuable football program. It was the No. 20 revenue generating athletic program overall.

 

Lots of people with no eyeballs must be Nebraska fans.

[TruffleShuffle]

& by the way, I'm now hearing the contract is most likely with Fox, not just FSN. This means national prime time games on Thursday night, and potentially all day Saturday (2 afternoon/1 night). Thus, the network (on top of having it's own Big 12 channel) will be getting nationally broadcasted games. That's a no lose situation and a reason to be worried for ESPN and ABC. I don't care who the teams are, if there is another option to watch on Thursday night and Saturday, ESPN and ABC will lose some viewers, regardless of the number, they're losing some.

 

that's a big lose situation. possibly four big xii (now 10) games a week on fox? i'm sure they're going to do boffo ratings for texas tech at iowa state.

 

let's be honest, besides texas and oklahoma, nobody is really tuning in from anywhere else in the country to watch big xii football unless a team like missouri or texas tech or oklahoma state is randomly good.

[E.J.]

Stopping at Nebraska would be a hilarious misstep by the Big Ten. Adding a has been program with no eyeballs does absolutely nothing for them, and it wastes their best effort to actually get the school they've always wanted.

 

Nebraska is Forbes No. 4 most valuable football program. It was the No. 20 revenue generating athletic program overall.

 

Lots of people with no eyeballs must be Nebraska fans.

 

All I know is I'm excited to add Nebraska to the Big Ten.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

More from Chip:

 

CU seen as "such a nonperformer" that they were viewed as bringing 0% to the table for TV...so Big XII sold it as only one school actually lost from Big XII (Nebraska).

 

 

OU/UT may move from TX State Fairgrounds to Jerry's Taj in Dallas.

 

Mike Slive and SEC in College Station on Saturday, Larry Scott and Weiberg (Pac-10) in College Station on Sunday...full court press was on.

 

I hope that happens because as a Cowboys season ticket holder, I could get in on the presale.

[Exile on Waveland]

Stopping at Nebraska would be a hilarious misstep by the Big Ten. Adding a has been program with no eyeballs does absolutely nothing for them, and it wastes their best effort to actually get the school they've always wanted.

 

Nebraska is Forbes No. 4 most valuable football program. It was the No. 20 revenue generating athletic program overall.

 

Lots of people with no eyeballs must be Nebraska fans.

 

All I know is I'm excited to add Nebraska to the Big Ten.

 

I was firmly on the Notre Dame or Texas or bust bandwagon, but that was before I educated myself about Nebraska. I had no idea the revenue they generated. Couple that with geography and the AAU, I think it's an outstanding move.

 

Of course, I'd still love to add one of the two aforementioned schools.

[SpongeWorthy]

I figure OU/UT was already slated to move to Cowboys Stadium like every over sporting event in the world.

[Old Style]

Texas A&M is staying in the Big 12. I want to [expletive] puke.

[tadowdaddy]

Hearing now that ESPN trumped Fox's deal for the Big 12 to survive.. Dunno what to believe now other than it's a done deal. They are being really hush hush right now in terms of who the TV contract is with.

[Guest]

Well, this is an overall letdown. I feel like I just watched a movie that was setting up for an epic climax...but just suddenly ended instead.

[TruffleShuffle]

boy the big ten and sec must be pretty irate about their tv deals if the big xii is getting almost the same amount of dollars per team.

[shnsajax]

Texas A&M is staying in the Big 12. I want to [expletive] puke.

 

I was in the belief that A&M would be better off going to the SEC. I would like for them to try to bring in TCU and 1 other team. Could always make a play for Arkansas some year down the road.

[snoodmonger]

just what we need, another texas school

[Old Style]

Hearing now that ESPN trumped Fox's deal for the Big 12 to survive.. Dunno what to believe now other than it's a done deal. They are being really hush hush right now in terms of who the TV contract is with.

I'm hearing Fox from Aggie sources.

[tadowdaddy]

I was hearing the same thing but maybe ESPN swooped in and got it. Chip Brown just said on 104.9 in Austin "A network didn't want all of its carefully negotiated contracts with the ACC to get blown up and it wanted to protect itself from FOX having rights to Texas and OU thru a Pac-16 network"...i.e. its ESPN.

 

However, this was just posted saying it is fox, which is what I've heard all along:

 

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/061510dnspoblogcoll.a2975b0c.html

[tadowdaddy]

My last post on this for today.. Now officially official:

 

http://www.texassports.com/genrel/061410aaa.html