NCAA Football Coaching Vacancies

[snoodmonger]

I've hear two things about Louisville today. FIrst, that Tuberville was in town today to talk about the vacancy. Talk about ultimate irony. Second, I am reading that this is Charlie Strong's job to lose. PLEASE be true!

 

What's the knock on Tuberville? I don't think he's a candidate for KU, but I'd like him to be. Dude was 52-30 in the SEC and he was at the secondary football school in his own state. He won a bunch of division titles and had a good record against top ten opponents. I'd love for KU to make a run at him, personally, unless there's something I'm missing.

[RedFlash]

I've hear two things about Louisville today. FIrst, that Tuberville was in town today to talk about the vacancy. Talk about ultimate irony. Second, I am reading that this is Charlie Strong's job to lose. PLEASE be true!

 

What's the knock on Tuberville? I don't think he's a candidate for KU, but I'd like him to be. Dude was 52-30 in the SEC and he was at the secondary football school in his own state. He won a bunch of division titles and had a good record against top ten opponents. I'd love for KU to make a run at him, personally, unless there's something I'm missing.

 

The biggest knock on Tuberville is when Bama signed Saban, Tommy essentially quit on Auburn especially during recruiting. If you are talking Kansas, which I assume you are, I think he would be good there. KSU isn't Alabama, nor does he have to compete against a coach like Saban for in-state talent. So yeah, I think Tuberville would be a solid get for Kansas.

[AubCubFan]

I've hear two things about Louisville today. FIrst, that Tuberville was in town today to talk about the vacancy. Talk about ultimate irony. Second, I am reading that this is Charlie Strong's job to lose. PLEASE be true!

 

What's the knock on Tuberville? I don't think he's a candidate for KU, but I'd like him to be. Dude was 52-30 in the SEC and he was at the secondary football school in his own state. He won a bunch of division titles and had a good record against top ten opponents. I'd love for KU to make a run at him, personally, unless there's something I'm missing.

 

The biggest knock on Tuberville is when Bama signed Saban, Tommy essentially quit on Auburn especially during recruiting. If you are talking Kansas, which I assume you are, I think he would be good there. KSU isn't Alabama, nor does he have to compete against a coach like Saban for in-state talent. So yeah, I think Tuberville would be a solid get for Kansas.

 

From an Auburn fan, for the most part, Tuberville was great. Unfortunately, he didn't do well with recruiting once Saban got to Alabama. On the plus side, he put a lot of players into the NFL, rarely had a problem with his players getting in trouble, and ran a great program. He was a good in game coach that made excellent half time adjustments. His record against top-ten teams was amazing. With that being said, it was time for him to move on. His time was up. He had plenty of faults, but he'd be a great addition to a struggling program.

[SouthSideRyan]

I thought I heard something in passing about Tuberville and ND. I'm sure ND wouldn't go for a head coach who was forced out of Auburn, were they looking for him as a D coordinator or did I completely make this up?

[cubweiser03]

Is somebody going to throw some money at Tom Bradley or is he too busy waiting and gambling that Paterno will die soon. I like Butch Jones of Central Mich, wonder if he will get any calls this year.

[Tracer Bullet]

You really should want Kelly.

There's nothing clearly wrong with Kelly. But Stoops would be a home-run hire as opposed to Kelly's solid down-the-line double. JMO.

 

Was Urban Meyer a solid down-the-line double for Florida?

 

So Brian Kelly is Urban Meyer?

[RedFlash]

You really should want Kelly.

There's nothing clearly wrong with Kelly. But Stoops would be a home-run hire as opposed to Kelly's solid down-the-line double. JMO.

 

Was Urban Meyer a solid down-the-line double for Florida?

 

So Brian Kelly is Urban Meyer?

 

At the time that Urban Meyer got the job at Florida, I would say yes.

[Tracer Bullet]

really? what big time program was he an assistant at? never worked anywhere bigger than Cincy you say?

 

Ok, was his CMU record similar to Meyer's BG record? Somewhat comparable? 10-12 in his first 2 seasons. A bowl game in his 3rd season. No quite 17-6 in 2 years (and was CMU as pathetic as Bowling Green?). He's done well at Cincy, though he followed Mark Dantonio. But not quite Meyer's 20-2 in 2 seasons at Utah.

 

He's got more experience as a HC at a younger age though in much, much lower competition. His path to BCS level coaching is nothing like Meyer's. Why are they the same?

[SpongeWorthy]

The Big East is much, much lower competition than the Mountain West?

[Tracer Bullet]

The Big East is much, much lower competition than the Mountain West?

 

no. his decade of coaching GVSU is HC experience at much, much lower competition than Meyer's assistant coaching experience (OSU, ND, etc).

 

They took 2 totally different paths.

[SpongeWorthy]

I don't see why you would put much weight on that. It's like worrying about Walter Payton playing at a small college after he already produced at a high level in the NFL for a couple years.

[Tracer Bullet]

I don't see why you would put much weight on that. It's like worrying about Walter Payton playing at a small college after he already produced at a high level in the NFL for a couple years.

 

i have no idea what you're talking about.

[SpongeWorthy]

Why would you hold Kelly's head coaching experience at small colleges against him when he's already a proven winner at a BCS program? I know you're comparing him to Meyer but the differences really aren't that great. Sure, he coached at smaller programs, had a less gilded assistant coaching resume, and isn't quite as dominant (yet) at Cincy as Meyer was at Utah but it's not like they're worlds apart.

 

You're not going to find many more proven college coaches looking for a step up than Brian Kelly in 2009 or Urban Meyer in 2005. The only guys that arguably beat them out are coaches who would make lateral moves from powerhouses.

[SpongeWorthy]

I guess my point is that Meyer wasn't really a hotter candidate coming off Utah's undefeated season than Kelly is now. He might have been so in Domer land because he was an assistant there but not in a general sense. Kelly will be mentioned with most (all?) big time coaching openings.

[Tracer Bullet]

Why would you hold Kelly's head coaching experience at small colleges against him when he's already a proven winner at a BCS program? I know you're comparing him to Meyer but the differences really aren't that great. Sure, he coached at smaller programs, had a less gilded assistant coaching resume, and isn't quite as dominant (yet) at Cincy as Meyer was at Utah but it's not like they're worlds apart.

 

You're not going to find many more proven college coaches looking for a step up than Brian Kelly in 2009 or Urban Meyer in 2005. The only guys that arguably beat them out are coaches who would make lateral moves from powerhouses.

 

I'm not holding it against him. Kelly may end up being better than Meyer, who knows. I just don't see similarities beyond having two good/great years at typically average or bad schools. Everything that preceded their respective years at Utah and Cincy is different. So I am just arguing against the comparison Raisin made.

 

I also think if you have a shot at Stoops, you take him over Kelly.

[snoodmonger]

Is somebody going to throw some money at Tom Bradley or is he too busy waiting and gambling that Paterno will die soon. I like Butch Jones of Central Mich, wonder if he will get any calls this year.

 

Allegedly KU is looking at Jones. I don't know anything about him. I'm hoping we can get a slightly bigger name.

[TheVolCub08]

Is somebody going to throw some money at Tom Bradley or is he too busy waiting and gambling that Paterno will die soon. I like Butch Jones of Central Mich, wonder if he will get any calls this year.

 

TIFWIW...

 

Louisville's Top 3, as of right now, is Fulmer, Charlie Strong, and Butch Jones.

 

I think it's Strong's job to lose, and that Phil is the next coach at Kansas.

 

Can you imagine that headline the morning after Mangino is fired and Fulmer is hired? "Jayhawks Head Football Coach 50 Pounds Lighter This Morning."

[dew1679666265]

Is somebody going to throw some money at Tom Bradley or is he too busy waiting and gambling that Paterno will die soon. I like Butch Jones of Central Mich, wonder if he will get any calls this year.

 

TIFWIW...

 

Louisville's Top 3, as of right now, is Fulmer, Charlie Strong, and Butch Jones.

 

I think it's Strong's job to lose, and that Phil is the next coach at Kansas.

 

Can you imagine that headline the morning after Mangino is fired and Fulmer is hired? "Jayhawks Head Football Coach 50 Pounds Lighter This Morning."

 

What are your thoughts on the possibility of Fulmer to Kansas? I think he can thrive there, but I'm curious to hear other opinions.

[TheVolCub08]

Is somebody going to throw some money at Tom Bradley or is he too busy waiting and gambling that Paterno will die soon. I like Butch Jones of Central Mich, wonder if he will get any calls this year.

 

TIFWIW...

 

Louisville's Top 3, as of right now, is Fulmer, Charlie Strong, and Butch Jones.

 

I think it's Strong's job to lose, and that Phil is the next coach at Kansas.

 

Can you imagine that headline the morning after Mangino is fired and Fulmer is hired? "Jayhawks Head Football Coach 50 Pounds Lighter This Morning."

 

What are your thoughts on the possibility of Fulmer to Kansas? I think he can thrive there, but I'm curious to hear other opinions.

 

All depends upon his staff. He's been known to recruit Oklahoma with pretty decent success, and has been able to entice the occasional Texan to sign with him, and he's had success elsewhere in the midwest, so I think he can it done in that regard. But, he's proven that if he does not have the assistants, he's not the head coach his record suggests. Wouldn't be shocked to see Sanders back on board with him, and I can see a couple of his old buddies rejoining him, and even wonder if Garner gets passed over again at UGA, if Fulmer would hire him as the DC.

 

Plus, let's be honest... if you have to rebuild in the Big 12, it's nice to do it in a separate division from Oklahoma and Texas.

[snoodmonger]

I'd rather have Tuberville than Fulmer if we're doing old SEC guys. Fulmer's players got into a lot of trouble.

[TheVolCub08]

I'd rather have Tuberville than Fulmer if we're doing old SEC guys. Fulmer's players got into a lot of trouble.

 

So do Urban Meyer's. Would you prefer Tuberville over him? Not saying that there aren't legitimate reasons to prefer Tubs over Fulmer... just think that one is a bit of a stretch.

[dew1679666265]

All depends upon his staff. He's been known to recruit Oklahoma with pretty decent success, and has been able to entice the occasional Texan to sign with him, and he's had success elsewhere in the midwest, so I think he can it done in that regard. But, he's proven that if he does not have the assistants, he's not the head coach his record suggests. Wouldn't be shocked to see Sanders back on board with him, and I can see a couple of his old buddies rejoining him, and even wonder if Garner gets passed over again at UGA, if Fulmer would hire him as the DC.

 

That's kind of what I thought. I could see him trying to bring in Randy Sanders, but I wonder if Sanders would leave Kentucky knowing he'll get the OC job once Joker Phillips makes the move to head coach.

 

If not Sanders, I wonder if Fulmer would look at Rob Spence or Scott Loefler, two guys he apparently considered for the UT OC job when he hired Clawson? Either would be very good OCs, I think.

 

Plus, let's be honest... if you have to rebuild in the Big 12, it's nice to do it in a separate division from Oklahoma and Texas.

 

This is very true and is why I think Fulmer would be highly interested. Not having to deal with the big dogs in a conference until the championship game is a good deal.

[dew1679666265]

I'd rather have Tuberville than Fulmer if we're doing old SEC guys. Fulmer's players got into a lot of trouble.

 

So do Urban Meyer's. Would you prefer Tuberville over him? Not saying that there aren't legitimate reasons to prefer Tubs over Fulmer... just think that one is a bit of a stretch.

 

There are definitely reasons to prefer Tuberville over Fulmer, but discipline is not one of those. I think either will be a good hire for whoever picks them up.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'd rather have Tuberville than Fulmer if we're doing old SEC guys. Fulmer's players got into a lot of trouble.

 

So do Urban Meyer's. Would you prefer Tuberville over him? Not saying that there aren't legitimate reasons to prefer Tubs over Fulmer... just think that one is a bit of a stretch.

 

Snood will have no troublemakers sullying the good name of Kansas athletics.

[snoodmonger]

I'd rather have Tuberville than Fulmer if we're doing old SEC guys. Fulmer's players got into a lot of trouble.

 

So do Urban Meyer's. Would you prefer Tuberville over him? Not saying that there aren't legitimate reasons to prefer Tubs over Fulmer... just think that one is a bit of a stretch.

 

The difference btw Meyer and Fulmer is night and day. I see Fulmer and Tuberville as pretty comparable, so all things being equal, I'd rather go with the guy EDSBS didn't name their crime award after.