NCAA Football Coaching Vacancies

[Guest]

You really should want Kelly.

[Andy]

You really should want Kelly.

There's nothing clearly wrong with Kelly. But Stoops would be a home-run hire as opposed to Kelly's solid down-the-line double. JMO.

[snoodmonger]

I hope they grab Kelly, because it leaves KU a snowball's chance at Patterson. If Stoops leaves for ND, I have to think Patterson would be OU's first choice.

 

I can't imagine him leaving TCU for Kansas just because he really likes living in the Ft Worth area. OU is a different story.

 

 

He's from Kansas. So is his wife. Still, I totally realize it's a snowball's chance.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Our sources have confirmed that Athletic Director Lew Perkins has had talks with former Tennessee Head Coach Pillip Fulmer and there is mutual interest at this point.   Our source close to the situation say AD Lew Perkins is going Kevin Sumlin (Houston Head Coach), Brent Venables (Oklahoma Defensive Coordinator) Butch Jones (Central Michigan Head Coach), Tuner Gill (Buffalo Head Coach), Gary Patterson (TCU Head Coach), Jim Harbaugh (Stanford Head Coach) and Chris Petersen (Boise State Head Coach).

 

http://footballcoachscoop.com/Scoop.html

[TruffleShuffle]

Our sources have confirmed that Athletic Director Lew Perkins has had talks with former Tennessee Head Coach Pillip Fulmer and there is mutual interest at this point.   Our source close to the situation say AD Lew Perkins is going Kevin Sumlin (Houston Head Coach), Brent Venables (Oklahoma Defensive Coordinator) Butch Jones (Central Michigan Head Coach), Tuner Gill (Buffalo Head Coach), Gary Patterson (TCU Head Coach), Jim Harbaugh (Stanford Head Coach) and Chris Petersen (Boise State Head Coach).

 

http://footballcoachscoop.com/Scoop.html

 

the last two names are definitely long shots; probably patterson as well.

[E.J.]

Our sources have confirmed that Athletic Director Lew Perkins has had talks with former Tennessee Head Coach Pillip Fulmer and there is mutual interest at this point.   Our source close to the situation say AD Lew Perkins is going Kevin Sumlin (Houston Head Coach), Brent Venables (Oklahoma Defensive Coordinator) Butch Jones (Central Michigan Head Coach), Tuner Gill (Buffalo Head Coach), Gary Patterson (TCU Head Coach), Jim Harbaugh (Stanford Head Coach) and Chris Petersen (Boise State Head Coach).

 

http://footballcoachscoop.com/Scoop.html

 

the last two names are definitely long shots; probably patterson as well.

 

Yes, you could argue that Stanford and Boise State are better programs than Kansas at this point.

[dew1679666265]

Our sources have confirmed that Athletic Director Lew Perkins has had talks with former Tennessee Head Coach Pillip Fulmer and there is mutual interest at this point.   Our source close to the situation say AD Lew Perkins is going Kevin Sumlin (Houston Head Coach), Brent Venables (Oklahoma Defensive Coordinator) Butch Jones (Central Michigan Head Coach), Tuner Gill (Buffalo Head Coach), Gary Patterson (TCU Head Coach), Jim Harbaugh (Stanford Head Coach) and Chris Petersen (Boise State Head Coach).

 

http://footballcoachscoop.com/Scoop.html

 

I think Fulmer would do well at Kansas. Especially in recent years he's had success recruiting Oklahoma, Texas and California, so he's got ties to the western/southwestern area already. Plus, he'd be out of the Oklahoma/Texas part of the Big 12.

[SouthSideRyan]

Our sources have confirmed that Athletic Director Lew Perkins has had talks with former Tennessee Head Coach Pillip Fulmer and there is mutual interest at this point.   Our source close to the situation say AD Lew Perkins is going Kevin Sumlin (Houston Head Coach), Brent Venables (Oklahoma Defensive Coordinator) Butch Jones (Central Michigan Head Coach), Tuner Gill (Buffalo Head Coach), Gary Patterson (TCU Head Coach), Jim Harbaugh (Stanford Head Coach) and Chris Petersen (Boise State Head Coach).

 

http://footballcoachscoop.com/Scoop.html

 

the last two names are definitely long shots; probably patterson as well.

 

Yes, you could argue that Stanford and Boise State are better programs than Kansas at this point.

 

Trent Johnson took a step down in prestige because Stanford paid him garbage. I don't know what Harbaugh's getting paid, but money could be a reason.

[snoodmonger]

I don't see any reason why Harbaugh would go to KU. He probably doesn't need money. He's in a power conference. He's in Palo Alto, not the middle of the flatlands. Seems really unrealistic. And yes, Boise St. and TCU are better programs than KU.

 

KU can promise more $, though. And they won't get frozen out of BCS games like they often do at those smaller schools.

 

 

 

Dew, you really think Fulmer would be a fit? Didn't he basically get run out of UT? And don't his players routinely end up on police blotters?

[snoodmonger]

Also, according to wikipedia, here are some of the candidates' current salaries:

 

Kevin Sumlin: $ 700,000

Chris Peterson: $1,100,000

Turner Gill $ 190,000

Phil Fulmer $2,400,000 (in his last year at Tenn)

Jim Harbaugh $ 750,000

Brian Kelly $1,475,000

Gary Patterson $1,300,000

 

 

Mangino made $2,300,000

[dew1679666265]

Dew, you really think Fulmer would be a fit? Didn't he basically get run out of UT? And don't his players routinely end up on police blotters?

 

He got run out of UT despite winning 64% of his games since 2002 and having 10 win seasons three of those years. He did have 5-win seasons in 2008 and 2005, but had 10-win seasons in between those two. Fans were angry that he couldn't beat Florida and, thus, wasn't winning the SEC championship on a regular enough basis (he made the title game in 2007, but that was the only appearance since 2001). The recruiting classes were still strong, but I tend to think the development of some of those players were lacking in the past couple of years. Part of that, I think, is a lot of staff turnover (Trooper Taylor taking an OC job at Ok State, Cutcliffe taking the Duke job, etc).

 

Overall, I think he made the wrong choice at the time in Dave Clawson. He needed to win immediately and Clawson's system historically has taken two years to really catch on (though that wasn't the case at Bowling Green). It led to a bad 2008 season that I think would have been improved on this year. If he makes the right staff choices at Kansas, I think he could have solid success. I don't know that he'd make the Jayhawks BCS title contenders, but I think he could consistently have them at the top of the Big 12 North.

 

Sorry for the length, by the way.

[Guest]

You really should want Kelly.

There's nothing clearly wrong with Kelly. But Stoops would be a home-run hire as opposed to Kelly's solid down-the-line double. JMO.

 

Was Urban Meyer a solid down-the-line double for Florida?

[Andy]

You really should want Kelly.

There's nothing clearly wrong with Kelly. But Stoops would be a home-run hire as opposed to Kelly's solid down-the-line double. JMO.

 

Was Urban Meyer a solid down-the-line double for Florida?

Was Dan Hawkins for Colorado?

 

Was Steve Kragthorpe for Louisville?

[illiniguy]

Isn't the big thing for Notre Dame now to actually hire a guy and have everyone be behind him for more than just two years? I realize Fat Charlie got some time, but hell for the past two years everyone has been calling for his head. Guess what, it's not the 60s anymore, there are other great programs now. Notre Dame isn't going to be fixed in a 3 year period.

[Derwood]

Isn't the big thing for Notre Dame now to actually hire a guy and have everyone be behind him for more than just two years? I realize Fat Charlie got some time, but hell for the past two years everyone has been calling for his head. Guess what, it's not the 60s anymore, there are other great programs now. Notre Dame isn't going to be fixed in a 3 year period.

 

It's also not a top flight program in terms of landing coaches. The Stoops talk is nice and all, but Notre Dame isn't going to pull coaches from elite teams just because they're Notre Dame anymore (if they ever did.....Davie/Willingham were hardly elite when they were hired, and Weis wasn't even coaching in college)

[Guest]

You really should want Kelly.

There's nothing clearly wrong with Kelly. But Stoops would be a home-run hire as opposed to Kelly's solid down-the-line double. JMO.

 

Was Urban Meyer a solid down-the-line double for Florida?

Was Dan Hawkins for Colorado?

 

Was Steve Kragthorpe for Louisville?

 

Well, how would you determine Stoops would be a home-run hire given the challenges at Notre Dame that aren't present at Oklahoma currently?

 

And Kelly is a better candidate with a better resume than Kragthorpe coming out of Tulsa.

[Andy]

To clarify, I'm not trashing Kelly. There's nothing wrong with him and any program that gets him, if anyone does, can and should be optimistic. He's just not the guy I want first, not when there's a national championship-winning coach who may or may not be picking up the phone.

 

I feel bad for Stoops, BTW. He's about to deny his 3rd going-to-ND rumor in the last 20 hours.

[Andy]

You really should want Kelly.

There's nothing clearly wrong with Kelly. But Stoops would be a home-run hire as opposed to Kelly's solid down-the-line double. JMO.

 

Was Urban Meyer a solid down-the-line double for Florida?

Was Dan Hawkins for Colorado?

 

Was Steve Kragthorpe for Louisville?

 

Well, how would you determine Stoops would be a home-run hire given the challenges at Notre Dame that aren't present at Oklahoma currently?

 

And Kelly is a better candidate with a better resume than Kragthorpe coming out of Tulsa.

So now there are those challenges at Cincinnati?

 

Bottom line, if you're picking a coach for your football program and your choices are national champion, 9 and 10 win seasons like clockwork at a Tier 1 school that was garbage before you got there vs. guy who's won at every level so far but hasn't been in the big-time yet, you'd be crazy to pick the 2nd one unless he was like 15 years younger. And he's not.

[shnsajax]

You really should want Kelly.

There's nothing clearly wrong with Kelly. But Stoops would be a home-run hire as opposed to Kelly's solid down-the-line double. JMO.

 

Was Urban Meyer a solid down-the-line double for Florida?

Was Dan Hawkins for Colorado?

 

Was Steve Kragthorpe for Louisville?

 

Those were both a Neifi Perez reached base on an error hire's.

[SouthSideRyan]

Isn't the big thing for Notre Dame now to actually hire a guy and have everyone be behind him for more than just two years? I realize Fat Charlie got some time, but hell for the past two years everyone has been calling for his head. Guess what, it's not the 60s anymore, there are other great programs now. Notre Dame isn't going to be fixed in a 3 year period.

 

It's also not a top flight program in terms of landing coaches. The Stoops talk is nice and all, but Notre Dame isn't going to pull coaches from elite teams just because they're Notre Dame anymore (if they ever did.....Davie/Willingham were hardly elite when they were hired, and Weis wasn't even coaching in college)

 

Dan Devine was definitely a pull because they were ND.

[Guest]

So now there are those challenges at Cincinnati?

 

I didn't say there were. The implication in my post was that Bob Stoops isn't the perfect candidate.

[snoodmonger]

Rumors are Patterson and TCU have agreed to an extension.

[Andy]

So now there are those challenges at Cincinnati?

 

I didn't say there were. The implication in my post was that Bob Stoops isn't the perfect candidate.

No one's the perfect candidate. Stoops is the best in my eyes - of people that haven't out and out denied interest.

[TheVolCub08]

I've hear two things about Louisville today. FIrst, that Tuberville was in town today to talk about the vacancy. Talk about ultimate irony. Second, I am reading that this is Charlie Strong's job to lose. PLEASE be true!

[RedFlash]

I've hear two things about Louisville today. FIrst, that Tuberville was in town today to talk about the vacancy. Talk about ultimate irony. Second, I am reading that this is Charlie Strong's job to lose. PLEASE be true!

 

Charlie Strong is every bit the man his name suggests he is. I would tell Louisville to stay away from Tuberville, cause during the last 2 years at Auburn, he flat out quit on his the university on recruiting trail and left them in the position they are in today. Does that sound like a guy you want being your head coach?

 

Charlie Strong is every bit the candidate his name suggests he is. I would recommend Louisville to get Charlie Strong, he is ready for his own program. Now if Notre Dame wants to sign Tommy Tuberville, I would have NO PROBLEM with that at all. :wink: