2010 BBWAA HOF Ballot

[imb]

Dawson's in

[NonProfitCow]

Dawson's in

Is he the only Expo in?

[big_shooter17]

Dawson's in

Is he the only Expo in?

Gary Carter

[rocket]

Even though he was probably the 4th at best most deserving player on the ballot, I'm still happy a Cub got in.

[NonProfitCow]

Every year I hold out hope that the voters will get smarter yet they never do.

[illiniguy]

Every year I hold out hope that the voters will get smarter yet they never do.

You and Ron Santo both.

[AlwaysaCub]

So he's for sure going in as an Expo? 2 Expos from their drug years? Would he possibly request to go in as a Cub?

[erik316wttn]

Woohoo!!!

 

\:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

 

Congrats, Andre. You deserve it.

 

Now, to get Ron Santo in next year....

[bukie]

Rob Neyer says it better than I would.

[TruffleShuffle]

alomar didn't make it?!?!? fail.

[OleMissCub]

alomar didn't make it?!?!? fail.

 

yes, that's an epic fail. It's disgusting.

[Mark Priors Calves]

Did anything ever come about from the Roberto Alomar being homosexual having HIV or AIDS story that popped up a bit ago?

[ISUCubsFan]

Blyleven picked up a lot of votes, I'm guessing he gets in before he leaves the ballot. Alomar will get in next year too, but it will be a year later than it should.

[The Voice of Reason]

Every year I hold out hope that the voters will get smarter yet they never do.

 

What do you mean, 77% of the voters were smart enough not to vote for McGwire.

[NewUserName]

so as part of Dawson going into the Hall I heard someone say that when Dawson retired only 2 players who hit over 400 career HRs were not in the Hall(Kingman and Darrell Evans). I agree that neither should be in the Hall, as neither one was considered a great player while they were playing. I make this comment because sometimes in later years we may pick out some career stats that we use to justify that a player should be in the Hall. I think part of being in the Hall is how you were considered when you were actually playing. So I say this because I was a young baseball fan most of Bylevens career. I dont ever remember anyone ever thinking he was a future HoFer. I actually would say that he probably was thought of the same way Evans was. A good consistent player.

[SouthSideRyan]

so as part of Dawson going into the Hall I heard someone say that when Dawson retired only 2 players who hit over 400 career HRs were not in the Hall(Kingman and Darrell Evans). I agree that neither should be in the Hall, as neither one was considered a great player while they were playing. I make this comment because sometimes in later years we may pick out some career stats that we use to justify that a player should be in the Hall. I think part of being in the Hall is how you were considered when you were actually playing. So I say this because I was a young baseball fan most of Bylevens career. I dont ever remember anyone ever thinking he was a future HoFer. I actually would say that he probably was thought of the same way Evans was. A good consistent player.

 

I don't think players should be punished for the prevailing stupidity of the media when they played. Worrying about how a player was viewed while he played is what leads to stuff like Catfish Hunter and Jim Rice getting elected.

[NewUserName]

so as part of Dawson going into the Hall I heard someone say that when Dawson retired only 2 players who hit over 400 career HRs were not in the Hall(Kingman and Darrell Evans). I agree that neither should be in the Hall, as neither one was considered a great player while they were playing. I make this comment because sometimes in later years we may pick out some career stats that we use to justify that a player should be in the Hall. I think part of being in the Hall is how you were considered when you were actually playing. So I say this because I was a young baseball fan most of Bylevens career. I dont ever remember anyone ever thinking he was a future HoFer. I actually would say that he probably was thought of the same way Evans was. A good consistent player.

 

I don't think players should be punished for the prevailing stupidity of the media when they played. Worrying about how a player was viewed while he played is what leads to stuff like Catfish Hunter and Jim Rice getting elected.

 

But it is the Hall of Fame. Really the title basically says it is based more on perception then statistical facts

[SouthSideRyan]

so as part of Dawson going into the Hall I heard someone say that when Dawson retired only 2 players who hit over 400 career HRs were not in the Hall(Kingman and Darrell Evans). I agree that neither should be in the Hall, as neither one was considered a great player while they were playing. I make this comment because sometimes in later years we may pick out some career stats that we use to justify that a player should be in the Hall. I think part of being in the Hall is how you were considered when you were actually playing. So I say this because I was a young baseball fan most of Bylevens career. I dont ever remember anyone ever thinking he was a future HoFer. I actually would say that he probably was thought of the same way Evans was. A good consistent player.

 

I don't think players should be punished for the prevailing stupidity of the media when they played. Worrying about how a player was viewed while he played is what leads to stuff like Catfish Hunter and Jim Rice getting elected.

 

But it is the Hall of Fame. Really the title basically says it is based more on perception then statistical facts

 

Well then let's induct Eddie Gaedell, Mark Fidyrich, Joe Jackson, Deion Sanders, and Bo Jackson.

[NCCubFan]

so as part of Dawson going into the Hall I heard someone say that when Dawson retired only 2 players who hit over 400 career HRs were not in the Hall(Kingman and Darrell Evans). I agree that neither should be in the Hall, as neither one was considered a great player while they were playing. I make this comment because sometimes in later years we may pick out some career stats that we use to justify that a player should be in the Hall. I think part of being in the Hall is how you were considered when you were actually playing. So I say this because I was a young baseball fan most of Bylevens career. I dont ever remember anyone ever thinking he was a future HoFer. I actually would say that he probably was thought of the same way Evans was. A good consistent player.

 

I don't think players should be punished for the prevailing stupidity of the media when they played. Worrying about how a player was viewed while he played is what leads to stuff like Catfish Hunter and Jim Rice getting elected.

 

But it is the Hall of Fame. Really the title basically says it is based more on perception then statistical facts

 

Well then let's induct Eddie Gaedell, Mark Fidyrich, Joe Jackson, Deion Sanders, and Bo Jackson.

I don't think Joe Jackson belongs on this list, because I think most people feel he belongs anyway. Otherwise I agree with your point.. Despite the name it's supposed to be for great players, not famous players.

[TruffleShuffle]

so as part of Dawson going into the Hall I heard someone say that when Dawson retired only 2 players who hit over 400 career HRs were not in the Hall(Kingman and Darrell Evans). I agree that neither should be in the Hall, as neither one was considered a great player while they were playing. I make this comment because sometimes in later years we may pick out some career stats that we use to justify that a player should be in the Hall. I think part of being in the Hall is how you were considered when you were actually playing. So I say this because I was a young baseball fan most of Bylevens career. I dont ever remember anyone ever thinking he was a future HoFer. I actually would say that he probably was thought of the same way Evans was. A good consistent player.

 

I don't think players should be punished for the prevailing stupidity of the media when they played. Worrying about how a player was viewed while he played is what leads to stuff like Catfish Hunter and Jim Rice getting elected.

 

But it is the Hall of Fame. Really the title basically says it is based more on perception then statistical facts

 

http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2006/01/12-minutes-of-hell-with-colin-cowherd.html

 

By Cowherd's new and excitingly dumb set of criteria, if Harold Baines had murdered Ron Kittle with a fungo bat in 1983, then buried the body, then admitted it after he (Baines) retired, and wrote a book about it, and testified in front of Congress about how he taught a bunch of people how to brain their fellow players with fungo bats, and he, Baines, got really famous for it...first ballot?

[NewUserName]

 

http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2006/01/12-minutes-of-hell-with-colin-cowherd.html

 

By Cowherd's new and excitingly dumb set of criteria, if Harold Baines had murdered Ron Kittle with a fungo bat in 1983, then buried the body, then admitted it after he (Baines) retired, and wrote a book about it, and testified in front of Congress about how he taught a bunch of people how to brain their fellow players with fungo bats, and he, Baines, got really famous for it...first ballot?

 

Touche. I was trying to think of how I could say what I was trying to say was not the same as what Cowherd said there. But, sadly it is pretty much the same point. Though I dont think I was going to the stupid absurd that Cowherd was. I also was not clear in saying that I think Blyleven does deserve to get in(and Jack Morris does not). Really I think my point is that he was never preceived as an All-Time Great while he was playing. Like it or not, this does have almost as much to do with a players HoF chances as his overall numbers.