Granderson to Yankees in 3-way trade? p. 20

[Shilzzz]

Rob, I'm assuming when you say the Tiger fans expect Jackson, you are lumping both Brett and Jay into one Jackson lump? It'd only make sense that they get both along with Vitters and Castro. At least

[erik316wttn]

Granderson is a player that's right up Hendry's alley: He's a leadoff guy who's left-handed and can catch the ball.

[Sever82]

Wow some baseball fans are just dumb. Five of our Top ten Prospects for a guy who doesn't have great stats and needs to be platooned? Are you kidding me, what GM in their right mind would trade basically the majority of their farm for a player who's not even a superstar. If they include Cabrera and Granderson for Castro, Vitters, Cashner, Jackson and DLee, i would consider it but for just Granderson, man people are dumb.

[Backtobanks]

Reading these trade proposals is making me hope we get Marlon Byrd.

[MSG T]

Reading these trade proposals is making me hope we get Marlon Byrd.

 

 

If it looks to cost even close to what Tigers fans are expecting, I'd rather just sign Cameron. His performance will be close to Granderson, won't cost anything in terms of prospects and can be had for a short term deal (ex. 1 year/2nd year club option) instead of the increasingly expensive long term deal Granderson has.

 

If he could be had for cheap, prospect wise, I'd prefer Granderson, but he's not worth the deals getting thrown around right now. Vitters, Castro AND one of the Jacksons? Give me Cameron instead.

[Outshined_One]

Rob, I'm assuming when you say the Tiger fans expect Jackson, you are lumping both Brett and Jay into one Jackson lump? It'd only make sense that they get both along with Vitters and Castro. At least

 

Brett Jackson can't be traded until the summer. Draftees cannot be traded away until a year after they originally sign.

[Shilzzz]

i know, O_O. just making a joke.

[RynoRules]

The more I look at Granderson the less I like the idea of trading anyone in our top-tier (Vitters, Cashner, Castro, Jackson, etc.) in order to get him. I am not opposed to trading those players, but if we do we ought to be getting someone back who produces at a superstar level.

[Guest]

...Yeah, Id just assume sign...

You have to be doing this just to bother people at this point.

[Little Slide Rooter]

...Yeah, Id just assume sign...

You have to be doing this just to bother people at this point.

just an old habbit that slips out sometimes.

[RedFlash]

The Cubs already have one OF who can do a damn thing against lefties, so why should the Cubs get a 2nd OFer who doesn't hit lefties?

[treebird]

i would prefer to not trade our entire farm system for a 29 year old outfielder who has dropped 60 points off of his ops each of the last two years.

[CyHawk_Cub]

I wouldn't part with Castro. I don't think the Cubs front office would either.

 

That's what my gut tells me. But otoh, there's no guarantee Castro becomes what we think he will become. Granderson is an established commodity, a good bat at a defense first position, which also happens to be a position of relative need. I would go for the bird in hand, but it could be all those years of our top prospects tanking.

 

If I did cough him up, they wouldn't get much more. Maybe Castro/Fox/Marshall.

 

That's my feeling as well. As mentioned above, I wouldn't want to move Castro, but since HJ Lee is in the system, I could stomach it.

[Rob]

Rob, I'm assuming when you say the Tiger fans expect Jackson, you are lumping both Brett and Jay into one Jackson lump? It'd only make sense that they get both along with Vitters and Castro. At least

 

I'm assuming they're all smart enough they mean Jay Jackson. Although I guess the adventures at that orioles board should have taught me better than to assume fans on other websites know the rules.

[jersey cubs fan]

I wouldn't part with Castro. I don't think the Cubs front office would either.

 

That's what my gut tells me. But otoh, there's no guarantee Castro becomes what we think he will become. Granderson is an established commodity, a good bat at a defense first position, which also happens to be a position of relative need. I would go for the bird in hand, but it could be all those years of our top prospects tanking.

 

If I did cough him up, they wouldn't get much more. Maybe Castro/Fox/Marshall.

 

That's my feeling as well. As mentioned above, I wouldn't want to move Castro, but since HJ Lee is in the system, I could stomach it.

 

I could stomach trading Castro, but not for a guy as flawed as Granderson is. Stars do not become completely incompetent when facing LH pitching. He is established as a guy who cannot hit lefties. That is a very bad thing when trying to justify trading away top talent for him. If you deal your top prospects, and a guy like Castro who has rocketed up most people's lists this year, you better get back a real star, and not some limited guy like Granderson.

[Backtobanks]

I wouldn't part with Castro. I don't think the Cubs front office would either.

 

That's what my gut tells me. But otoh, there's no guarantee Castro becomes what we think he will become. Granderson is an established commodity, a good bat at a defense first position, which also happens to be a position of relative need. I would go for the bird in hand, but it could be all those years of our top prospects tanking.

 

If I did cough him up, they wouldn't get much more. Maybe Castro/Fox/Marshall.

 

That's my feeling as well. As mentioned above, I wouldn't want to move Castro, but since HJ Lee is in the system, I could stomach it.

 

I could stomach trading Castro, but not for a guy as flawed as Granderson is. Stars do not become completely incompetent when facing LH pitching. He is established as a guy who cannot hit lefties. That is a very bad thing when trying to justify trading away top talent for him. If you deal your top prospects, and a guy like Castro who has rocketed up most people's lists this year, you better get back a real star, and not some limited guy like Granderson.

 

I totally agree. When some of the supporters of this trade post that re-signing Reed Johnson (or the like) to face tough lefties would give us amazing production out of CF, they're basically admitting he needs to be platooned. Granderson is a great fit for the Cubs if he is acquired for mid-level prospects or spare parts. A package of 3-4 players like Colvin, Casner, Fox, Marshall/Gorz, Berg, Stevens, etc. are the type of players that I would put out there. If they get a better offer, sign Byrd or Cameron.

[Sever82]

Cody (Mount Vernon, IA)

 

Would Josh Vitters, Jake Fox, and Jay Jackson be enough for the Cubs to land Curtis Granderson if he really is available? Would you do that deal if you were the Cubs?

 

Jim Callis (2:12 PM)

 

 

I would think so. The Tigers have to dump salary, so I might try to hold onto Vitters and see if Detroit would take Ryan Flaherty, or hold onto Jackson and offer a lesser pitcher. But the Cubs are in win-now mode, and I think they'd bite.

[javy knows my name]

That's a nice package for both sides. Jackson seems like the type of guy the Tigers would really like...I don't see them downgrading on the pitching part of the deal.

[SABR Gamer]

I would do Flaherty, Fox, and Jackson for Granderson. But that's the most I would offer.

[Sever82]

I would do Flaherty, Fox, and Jackson for Granderson. But that's the most I would offer.

 

I dont think that would be enough, they would definitely want at least another prospect or another two mid level prospects. Flaherty to me isn't worth a great deal.

[Backtobanks]

I would do Flaherty, Fox, and Jackson for Granderson. But that's the most I would offer.

 

That's the kind of package I was thinking of, even if we had to include another mid-level prospect. The names that were being thrown out there (Vitters, Castro, Theriot, Marmol, etc.) were too much, especially in a package of 3-4 players.

[jersey cubs fan]

I would do Flaherty, Fox, and Jackson for Granderson. But that's the most I would offer.

 

That's the kind of package I was thinking of, even if we had to include another mid-level prospect. The names that were being thrown out there (Vitters, Castro, Theriot, Marmol, etc.) were too much, especially in a package of 3-4 players.

 

They can have Theriot. He's a 30-year old middle infielder who is quite mediocre and is about to start making 7 figures.

[inari]

Yeah, not sure why anyone would be opposed to trading Theriot.

[javy knows my name]

Nobody wants Ryan Theriot on their team; they just say they do. And FTR, I'd substitute Marmol for Vitters in a deal 9 times out of 10.

[SABR Gamer]

Cody (Mount Vernon, IA)

 

Would Josh Vitters, Jake Fox, and Jay Jackson be enough for the Cubs to land Curtis Granderson if he really is available? Would you do that deal if you were the Cubs?

 

Jim Callis (2:12 PM)

 

 

I would think so. The Tigers have to dump salary, so I might try to hold onto Vitters and see if Detroit would take Ryan Flaherty, or hold onto Jackson and offer a lesser pitcher. But the Cubs are in win-now mode, and I think they'd bite.

 

I would do Flaherty, Fox, and Jackson for Granderson. But that's the most I would offer.

 

I dont think that would be enough, they would definitely want at least another prospect or another two mid level prospects. Flaherty to me isn't worth a great deal.

 

 

I was going off of the Jim Callis quote above.