College Football - Week of Sept. 5th

[manbearcub]

okay, i guess if the top 2-3 FCS schools are no comparison to mediocre midmajor FBS schools, then there is no comparison.

 

Navy might win 10 games this year.

maybe, but they wont. and uni might win 15, against an only slightly weaker schedule.

[dew1679666265]

okay, i guess if the top 2-3 FCS schools are no comparison to mediocre midmajor FBS schools, then there is no comparison.

 

Navy might win 10 games this year.

maybe, but they wont. and uni might win 15, against an only slightly weaker schedule.

 

Navy won 8 games last year and I can easily see 9 wins for them this year - and that's without any real upsets. Ten wins is a real possibility if they play well.

 

And Navy's schedule is much tougher. Ohio State, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame, Wake Forest and maybe Louisiana Tech are better than anybody on NIU's schedule except Iowa. And Ohio State and Notre Dame are both better than Iowa.

[Flames24Rulz]

Iowa no longer ranked? Shocking.

Of course, Iowa drops 15 spots, and Ohio State drops 2 spots after barely beating an arguably worse team.

 

Navy's a solid team.

 

Yeah, Navy's got some good talent and that triple option can be a difficult offense to defend. There's no comparison to Northern Iowa.

 

Northern Iowa would have a good to great chance at beating Navy. Just because they're an FCS team doesn't mean they suck.

[Andy]

Iowa no longer ranked? Shocking.

Of course, Iowa drops 15 spots, and Ohio State drops 2 spots after barely beating an arguably worse team.

 

Navy's a solid team.

 

Yeah, Navy's got some good talent and that triple option can be a difficult offense to defend. There's no comparison to Northern Iowa.

 

Northern Iowa would have a good to great chance at beating Navy. Just because they're an FCS team doesn't mean they suck.

Navy is far better than anyone gives them credit for. I think they'd easily defeat Northern Iowa.

[dew1679666265]

Iowa no longer ranked? Shocking.

Of course, Iowa drops 15 spots, and Ohio State drops 2 spots after barely beating an arguably worse team.

 

Navy's a solid team.

 

Yeah, Navy's got some good talent and that triple option can be a difficult offense to defend. There's no comparison to Northern Iowa.

 

Northern Iowa would have a good to great chance at beating Navy. Just because they're an FCS team doesn't mean they suck.

 

It doesn't mean they suck, but just because Navy isn't a major conference, elite power doesn't mean they're equivalent to a good FCS team either. Navy's won 8-9 games for the past several years and has a good amount of talent on this year's team. They're not just some random mid-major team.

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Iowa no longer ranked? Shocking.

Of course, Iowa drops 15 spots, and Ohio State drops 2 spots after barely beating an arguably worse team.

 

Navy's a solid team.

 

Yeah, Navy's got some good talent and that triple option can be a difficult offense to defend. There's no comparison to Northern Iowa.

 

Northern Iowa would have a good to great chance at beating Navy. Just because they're an FCS team doesn't mean they suck.

 

good to great? so if they played 10 times, UNI would win more than half? I just don't think that's true.

[Flames24Rulz]

 

good to great? so if they played 10 times, UNI would win more than half? I just don't think that's true.

 

I wouldn't use the ten times argument, but I think they'd more than hold their own against Navy.

 

I have a hard time buying into a triple option system working its course against every team. Just because it worked against OSU doesn't mean it works against other teams. It's easier said than done but if you can stop Navy's rushing game, you're going to be victorious. Not to mention I think OSU was looking ahead to its game against USC and took their game against Navy for granted, as much as it pains me to say that.

[dew1679666265]

 

good to great? so if they played 10 times, UNI would win more than half? I just don't think that's true.

 

I wouldn't use the ten times argument, but I think they'd more than hold their own against Navy.

 

I have a hard time buying into a triple option system working its course against every team. Just because it worked against OSU doesn't mean it works against other teams. It's easier said than done but if you can stop Navy's rushing game, you're going to be victorious. Not to mention I think OSU was looking ahead to its game against USC and took their game against Navy for granted, as much as it pains me to say that.

 

It's true that every team won't have trouble stopping the triple option, but it just accentuates the talent on the team. They're not good because of the triple option, but it helps.

 

There were three reasons, I think, that OSU had trouble with Navy.

 

1) looking ahead to USC

2) the triple option

3) Navy has solid talent

 

All three of those played a part, I think.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm willing to bet Northern Iowa in their entire existence doesn't have a win as big as Navy beating Wake or Rutgers last year.

 

Navy isn't some scrub team.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm willing to bet Northern Iowa in their entire existence doesn't have a win as big as Navy beating Wake or Rutgers last year.

 

Navy isn't some scrub team.

 

wake and rutgers are

[Andy]

I'm willing to bet Northern Iowa in their entire existence doesn't have a win as big as Navy beating Wake or Rutgers last year.

 

Navy isn't some scrub team.

 

wake and rutgers are

@Pitt and @ND the year before, plus a 3-point loss to Utah in the bowl game.

 

East Carolina, @Stanford, @UConn in 2006, plus a 1-point loss to BC in the bowl game.

 

Colorado State in the bowl game in 2005.

 

Navy has at least 1 win in any given year, and usually more, bigger than anything Northern Iowa has ever won. This is, IMO, a ridiculous argument.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm willing to bet Northern Iowa in their entire existence doesn't have a win as big as Navy beating Wake or Rutgers last year.

 

Navy isn't some scrub team.

 

wake and rutgers are

@Pitt and @ND the year before, plus a 3-point loss to Utah in the bowl game.

 

East Carolina, @Stanford, @UConn in 2006, plus a 1-point loss to BC in the bowl game.

 

Colorado State in the bowl game in 2005.

 

Navy has at least 1 win in any given year, and usually more, bigger than anything Northern Iowa has ever won. This is, IMO, a ridiculous argument.

 

Pitt, and especially ND, are also scrub teams.

[Flames24Rulz]

I'm willing to bet Northern Iowa in their entire existence doesn't have a win as big as Navy beating Wake or Rutgers last year.

 

Navy isn't some scrub team.

 

Well yeah, that's true. If they beat Iowa, that easily would've been their biggest win in school history.

[manbearcub]

I'm willing to bet Northern Iowa in their entire existence doesn't have a win as big as Navy beating Wake or Rutgers last year.

 

Navy isn't some scrub team.

 

wake and rutgers are

@Pitt and @ND the year before, plus a 3-point loss to Utah in the bowl game.

 

East Carolina, @Stanford, @UConn in 2006, plus a 1-point loss to BC in the bowl game.

 

Colorado State in the bowl game in 2005.

 

Navy has at least 1 win in any given year, and usually more, bigger than anything Northern Iowa has ever won. This is, IMO, a ridiculous argument.

seriously? those are all terrible teams.

[Exile on Waveland]

I'm willing to bet Northern Iowa in their entire existence doesn't have a win as big as Navy beating Wake or Rutgers last year.

 

Navy isn't some scrub team.

 

wake and rutgers are

 

Wake has won 11, 9, and 8 games the past three years. Rutgers has won 11, 8, and 8 games the past three years. They have combined for a 5-1 record in bowl games during that stretch (the one loss being Wake's Orange Bowl loss).

 

Granted, those are out of the ACC and the Big East, but "scrub teams" may be a bit harsh, no?

Edited September 9, 2009 by Exile on Waveland

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm willing to bet Northern Iowa in their entire existence doesn't have a win as big as Navy beating Wake or Rutgers last year.

 

Navy isn't some scrub team.

 

wake and rutgers are

@Pitt and @ND the year before, plus a 3-point loss to Utah in the bowl game.

 

East Carolina, @Stanford, @UConn in 2006, plus a 1-point loss to BC in the bowl game.

 

Colorado State in the bowl game in 2005.

 

Navy has at least 1 win in any given year, and usually more, bigger than anything Northern Iowa has ever won. This is, IMO, a ridiculous argument.

seriously? those are all terrible teams.

 

Iowa's terribler.

[manbearcub]

I'm willing to bet Northern Iowa in their entire existence doesn't have a win as big as Navy beating Wake or Rutgers last year.

 

Navy isn't some scrub team.

 

wake and rutgers are

@Pitt and @ND the year before, plus a 3-point loss to Utah in the bowl game.

 

East Carolina, @Stanford, @UConn in 2006, plus a 1-point loss to BC in the bowl game.

 

Colorado State in the bowl game in 2005.

 

Navy has at least 1 win in any given year, and usually more, bigger than anything Northern Iowa has ever won. This is, IMO, a ridiculous argument.

seriously? those are all terrible teams.

 

Iowa's terribler.

i mean Northern Iowa's win over Iowa State in 2007 is worth more than a win against freakin notre dame.

[SouthSideRyan]

@Pitt and @ND the year before, plus a 3-point loss to Utah in the bowl game.

 

East Carolina, @Stanford, @UConn in 2006, plus a 1-point loss to BC in the bowl game.

 

Colorado State in the bowl game in 2005.

 

Navy has at least 1 win in any given year, and usually more, bigger than anything Northern Iowa has ever won. This is, IMO, a ridiculous argument.

seriously? those are all terrible teams.

 

Iowa's terribler.

i mean Northern Iowa's win over Iowa State in 2007 is worth more than a win against freakin notre dame.

 

I don't see how a win over a mid-level FCS team is worth more than a win against ND

[dew1679666265]

For what it's worth, Jeff Sagarin (who is part of the BCS formula) ranks 1-AA along with 1-A. Three of the past four years, he's had Navy ranked much higher than NIU.

 

This year, he has Navy ranked 38 so far and NIU is 69.

[jersey cubs fan]

@Pitt and @ND the year before, plus a 3-point loss to Utah in the bowl game.

 

East Carolina, @Stanford, @UConn in 2006, plus a 1-point loss to BC in the bowl game.

 

Colorado State in the bowl game in 2005.

 

Navy has at least 1 win in any given year, and usually more, bigger than anything Northern Iowa has ever won. This is, IMO, a ridiculous argument.

seriously? those are all terrible teams.

 

Iowa's terribler.

i mean Northern Iowa's win over Iowa State in 2007 is worth more than a win against freakin notre dame.

 

I don't see how a win over a mid-level FCS team is worth more than a win against ND

 

 

Because ND is a joke.

[hawkeyecub]

Navy is better than UNI.

 

I used to be one of the guys who said that even when they had some upset wins, no 1-AA team was better than even a bad 1-A team. It seems like in the last 5-6 years it's really changed though.

 

The last time Iowa played UNI in '05, they went to the 1-AA championship and Iowa had a squad similar to this year's. They sleepwalked a little bit early but had no problem pulling away and winning 45-21. Really good 1-AA teams usually had good skill position guys and speed on the outside but interior play and overall depth were the huge difference. That team Saturday was really good inside and had very little drop-off in depth. You're seeing it with all of those elite 1-AA schools.

 

You could make an argument that UNI and Navy are on equal talent level because most academy guys only had 1-AA or really low scholarships to begin with. Plus they're able to take the guys that get kicked out of, can't get in to or transfer from solid 1-A programs. But Navy always exceeds their talent level.

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For what it's worth, Jeff Sagarin (who is part of the BCS formula) ranks 1-AA along with 1-A. Three of the past four years, he's had Navy ranked much higher than NIU.

 

This year, he has Navy ranked 38 so far and NIU is 69.

 

you're looking at Northern Iowa, UNI, not Northern Illinois, NIU, right? I'm assuming you are, but you keep getting the letters reversed, so I thought I'd check.

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Because ND is a joke.

 

wait, who's your team again?

[shnsajax]

 

Because ND is a joke.

 

wait, who's your team again?

 

ND is a joke!

[dew1679666265]

For what it's worth, Jeff Sagarin (who is part of the BCS formula) ranks 1-AA along with 1-A. Three of the past four years, he's had Navy ranked much higher than NIU.

 

This year, he has Navy ranked 38 so far and NIU is 69.

 

you're looking at Northern Iowa, UNI, not Northern Illinois, NIU, right? I'm assuming you are, but you keep getting the letters reversed, so I thought I'd check.

 

Yeah, you're right. I was thinking about them as Northern Iowa University for some reason. I am talking about UNI.