Soriano SUCKS

[TruffleShuffle]

.268/.302/.430/.732

 

Thats my prediction for his numbers when he's 38. And making 17 million

 

this was a great prediction, except that's his line when he's 33.

[UMFan83]

.268/.302/.430/.732

 

Thats my prediction for his numbers when he's 38. And making 17 million

 

this was a great prediction, except that's his line when he's 33.

 

That was actually my post originally :)

[Sammy Sofa]

As I was mentioning in the previous post, look at some of these quotes on the first page or two of the Soriano signing thread from people just hearing about the signing:

 

Here is the thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36777

 

8 years!!!!!

 

dear god.

 

That is horrendous. Hendry is ensuring that if he gets fired his fingerprints will be on the team for a long time.

 

NO WAY NO NO NO!!!!! 8 YEARS????

 

Nearly 17 million for 8 years to someone who has put up a .340 OBP once in his career. Hopefully this is like Rosenthal's "Ramirez to test Free Agency" scoop.

 

What the crap...he's gonna be 38 putting up terrible numbers making 17 milllion.

 

Terrible signing

 

I think I'm going to be sick...

 

38 year old soriano

 

.268/.302/.430/.732

 

Thats my prediction for his numbers when he's 38. And making 17 million

 

8 years !?!?...............geez.....8 years ?

 

That does not compute.

 

And that was only page 1. I guess the biggest complaint was about the length of the deal, and rightfully so. But a lot had to do with the fact that no one perceived Soriano has an elite player.

 

Again, that's just stating the obvious. Nobody is defending Soriano as if he's truly a top tier player or like he's going to be worth the entire contract he signed.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

That thread is awesome to go back and read.

[Exile on Waveland]

.268/.302/.430/.732

 

Thats my prediction for his numbers when he's 38. And making 17 million

 

this was a great prediction, except that's his line when he's 33.

 

I knew the contract was brutal, I knew Soriano was way overrated, I knew Soriano would be putrid near the end of the deal. I just never thought he'd be this bad at 33 in only the third year of the deal. It's worse than I expected.

[Exile on Waveland]

That thread is awesome to go back and read.

 

Wow, CuseCubFan.

[larhur]

Were not talking about home runs, its needing to score a runner from third with less than two outs when a ground ball to second would suffice and he strikes out trying to hit it out or that soriano favorite a pop-up to the second baseman, he caan't do or evenfigure out what to do in cases like that,, he then goes to the bench and says, well I tried, He still occasionally hits a home run, but what he makes, I expect more. GO CUBS< GO MIAMI HURRICANES

[The Voice of Reason]

No surprise that Soriano started to regress the moment he put on a Cubs hat. It's never a good idea to give a 31 year old an 8 year contract. Hendry is such a terrible GM.

 

Especially a "31 year old" from the Dominican Republic where lying about a players age is about as common as steroid use is there.

[erik316wttn]

Some players decline gradually. Others just hit the wall.

 

My guess is that our friend Soriano went about 900 mph into the side of the Sears Tower and now needs to be scraped off.

[Old Style]

Some players decline gradually. Others just hit the wall.

 

My guess is that our friend Soriano went about 900 mph into the side of the Sears Tower and now needs to be scraped off.

I think you mean the Willis Tower.

[Fanatic3332000]

Were not talking about home runs, its needing to score a runner from third with less than two outs when a ground ball to second would suffice and he strikes out trying to hit it out or that soriano favorite a pop-up to the second baseman, he caan't do or evenfigure out what to do in cases like that,, he then goes to the bench and says, well I tried, He still occasionally hits a home run, but what he makes, I expect more. GO CUBS< GO MIAMI HURRICANES

 

Well said.

Since I didn't back up my last statement and was proven wrong, I will back up this guy with stats.

 

This season:

Man on 3rd, < 2 outs: .228/.238/.556 (4-18) 13 RBI's

RISP: .205/.327/.398 (18-88) 31 RBI's

Bases loaded: .143/.188/.357 (2-14) 8 RBI's

 

When the bases are loaded and he steps to the plate I have just accepted the fact that the guy on 3rd isn't going to score. There's no reason to boo anymore, like Nick Friedell wrote on his blog yesterday, it's now an indifferent silence when I watch Soriano pop out to 2nd or strikeout with runners in scoring position. If only we could trade the Phillies outfield for our outfield (or the whole Phillies team for our team).

[SouthSideRyan]

No surprise that Soriano started to regress the moment he put on a Cubs hat. It's never a good idea to give a 31 year old an 8 year contract. Hendry is such a terrible GM.

 

Especially a "31 year old" from the Dominican Republic where lying about a players age is about as common as steroid use is there.

 

Soriano already aged a couple years when going from the Yankees to the Rangers.

[GhostRunner]

Especially a "31 year old" from the Dominican Republic where lying about a players age is about as common as steroid use is there.

Dominicans lie about their age and use steroids?! Preposterous. Albert Pujols is from D.R., is Snow White-pure, and a 29-year old! :rotfl:

[Clem Fandango]

Fangraphs says Soriano is only worth $1 million this season so far. We should trade him back to the Nationals for Nyjer Morgan, because he's the most valuable player in the history of the world

[Mark Priors Calves]

CubColtPacer continues to be the most underrated poster on NSBB. Nice research, CCP.

[javy knows my name]

Were not talking about home runs, its needing to score a runner from third with less than two outs when a ground ball to second would suffice and he strikes out trying to hit it out or that soriano favorite a pop-up to the second baseman, he caan't do or evenfigure out what to do in cases like that,, he then goes to the bench and says, well I tried, He still occasionally hits a home run, but what he makes, I expect more. GO CUBS< GO MIAMI HURRICANES

 

Well said.

 

HAHAHAHAHAH thanks for that

[Sammy Sofa]

Some players decline gradually. Others just hit the wall.

 

My guess is that our friend Soriano went about 900 mph into the side of the Sears Tower and now needs to be scraped off.

 

Or he had an unusually long slump due to the knee issues and now he's back to his usual streaky self.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Some players decline gradually. Others just hit the wall.

 

My guess is that our friend Soriano went about 900 mph into the side of the Sears Tower and now needs to be scraped off.

 

Or he had an unusually long slump due to the knee issues and now he's back to his usual streaky self.

 

Leg issues in a guy with a ton of middle-infield miles on his legs, who got a lot of his value in the past from speed, is not a good sign.

[Sammy Sofa]

Some players decline gradually. Others just hit the wall.

 

My guess is that our friend Soriano went about 900 mph into the side of the Sears Tower and now needs to be scraped off.

 

Or he had an unusually long slump due to the knee issues and now he's back to his usual streaky self.

 

Leg issues in a guy with a ton of middle-infield miles on his legs, who got a lot of his value in the past from speed, is not a good sign.

 

It's not a good sign in regards to his speed, but it's not necessarily the end of the world in regards to his hitting. He could never steal another base again and still be one of the most valuable bats they have.

[The Voice of Reason]

Especially a "31 year old" from the Dominican Republic where lying about a players age is about as common as steroid use is there.

Dominicans lie about their age and use steroids?! Preposterous. Albert Pujols is from D.R., is Snow White-pure, and a 29-year old! :rotfl:

 

Actually Soriano's not doing bad for a 35 year old.

 

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5752338.html

 

Major League Baseball opened an office in the Dominican Republic on Dec. 7, 2000, in large part to deal with the growing use of forged documents or false identities by would-be ballplayers.

 

MLB quickly moved to establish a working relationship with the Dominican Republic's Junta Central Electoral, which oversees that country's elections and keeps identity and birth records.

 

"We were concerned about the quality of the work that was being done to verify birth certificates," said Lou Melendez, MLB's vice president of international operations. "We brought in our own group of investigators to basically do that work."

 

It didn't take long to realize how rampant the problem was and, in some instances, still is.

 

"I am aware of some instances where the player's age was misrepresented by their parents and the player really had no control over that," said Houston immigration lawyer Jacob Monty, who represents the New York Yankees and Texas Rangers. "A lot of these players are very young and unsophisticated when they seek visas. They often rely on family members or agents to complete the paperwork."

 

Hmmmmm. Yankees and the Rangers

[Sammy Sofa]

You seem to be having trouble with something.

[dew1679666265]

Were not talking about home runs, its needing to score a runner from third with less than two outs when a ground ball to second would suffice and he strikes out trying to hit it out or that soriano favorite a pop-up to the second baseman, he caan't do or evenfigure out what to do in cases like that,, he then goes to the bench and says, well I tried, He still occasionally hits a home run, but what he makes, I expect more. GO CUBS< GO MIAMI HURRICANES

 

Well said.

Since I didn't back up my last statement and was proven wrong, I will back up this guy with stats.

 

This season:

Man on 3rd, < 2 outs: .228/.238/.556 (4-18) 13 RBI's

RISP: .205/.327/.398 (18-88) 31 RBI's

Bases loaded: .143/.188/.357 (2-14) 8 RBI's

 

When the bases are loaded and he steps to the plate I have just accepted the fact that the guy on 3rd isn't going to score. There's no reason to boo anymore, like Nick Friedell wrote on his blog yesterday, it's now an indifferent silence when I watch Soriano pop out to 2nd or strikeout with runners in scoring position. If only we could trade the Phillies outfield for our outfield (or the whole Phillies team for our team).

 

Stats like those with runners on or in scoring position are interesting because they're so random. It all depends on which exact position you prefer to point out.

 

This season:

Runner on second: .269/.424/.423/.847 (7 RBIs in 26 ABs)

Runners on the corners: .182/.250/.455/ .705 (4 RBIs in 11 ABs)

Runners on first and second: .292/.346/.583/.929 (10 RBIs in 24 ABs)

 

Career:

Man on 3rd, less than two outs: .316/.331/.513/.844

Runners on second and third: .247/.438/ .494/.932

Runners on the corners: .274/.323/.526/ .849

RISP: .251/.326/.461/.787

[SouthSideRyan]

Hmmmmm. Yankees and the Rangers

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/al/rangers/2004-02-20-soriano-age_x.htm

 

Yep, Yankees and Rangers.

[TruffleShuffle]

Some players decline gradually. Others just hit the wall.

 

My guess is that our friend Soriano went about 900 mph into the side of the Sears Tower and now needs to be scraped off.

 

what's the sears tower?

[Careless]

As I was mentioning in the previous post, look at some of these quotes on the first page or two of the Soriano signing thread from people just hearing about the signing:

 

Here is the thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36777

And that was only page 1. I guess the biggest complaint was about the length of the deal, and rightfully so. But a lot had to do with the fact that no one perceived Soriano has an elite player.

From page 9, how about this post

If Prior and Miller are healthy and Hill is for real................

:D :D :D :D :D