Build the 2010 Cubs

[jersey cubs fan]

Fukudome's contract isn't really an issue.

 

No, but he's not an ideal defensive CF, has basically been a platoon partner, and more importantly, potentially the only tradable position player. 2/26.5 for his age 33 and 34 seasons, I think the Cubs might be able to find a better way to spend that money.

[SouthSideRyan]

Fukudome's contract isn't really an issue.

 

No, but he's not an ideal defensive CF, has basically been a platoon partner, and more importantly, potentially the only tradable position player. 2/26.5 for his age 33 and 34 seasons, I think the Cubs might be able to find a better way to spend that money.

 

Well that would be fine if they could find a way to spend the money, but I'm not comfortable with Bradley as a full-time CF(not cause of his defense, but because of the prospects of Reed Johnsons starting 70 times a year.) I'm also not comfortable giving Jason Bay whatever insane contract he's likely to get.

 

Finding a CF platoon(or player) that hits like the ones we've had the last 2 seasons, is costly in dollars or talent. I'd rather eat 3M/Y on Dempster and trade him than open a gaping hole in CF.

[jersey cubs fan]

Fukudome's contract isn't really an issue.

 

No, but he's not an ideal defensive CF, has basically been a platoon partner, and more importantly, potentially the only tradable position player. 2/26.5 for his age 33 and 34 seasons, I think the Cubs might be able to find a better way to spend that money.

 

Well that would be fine if they could find a way to spend the money, but I'm not comfortable with Bradley as a full-time CF(not cause of his defense, but because of the prospects of Reed Johnsons starting 70 times a year.) I'm also not comfortable giving Jason Bay whatever insane contract he's likely to get.

 

Finding a CF platoon(or player) that hits like the ones we've had the last 2 seasons, is costly in dollars or talent. I'd rather eat 3M/Y on Dempster and trade him than open a gaping hole in CF.

 

Start the Colvin watch to work in with Bradley.

 

Jason Bay is better than the free agents the Cubs have gone after in recent years. Although I don't think that's the approach I'd take.

[shnsajax]

Were just limited to 2nd, SS, and an OF spot to try to improve the offense. I don't like Uggla enough to give up prospects for him, though I am fine with Orlando Hudson even though we balked last year. At SS I am not sure who we can actually get.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I wonder how much of the offensive advantage Fuld would get back on defense in a platoon situation. Might be worth looking into if you can get a nice return for Fukudome. Pretty much no chance of Hendry exploring that though.

[gflore34]

I wonder how much of the offensive advantage Fuld would get back on defense in a platoon situation. Might be worth looking into if you can get a nice return for Fukudome. Pretty much no chance of Hendry exploring that though.

 

I don't believe Fukudome is or has been the problem, its the complete lack of production from Soto, Soriano and 2b. Add Soto with a little more luck and anything from Soriano or 2b and I believe the Cardinals would been looking up at the Cubs.

[jersey cubs fan]

I wonder how much of the offensive advantage Fuld would get back on defense in a platoon situation. Might be worth looking into if you can get a nice return for Fukudome. Pretty much no chance of Hendry exploring that though.

 

I don't believe Fukudome is or has been the problem, its the complete lack of production from Soto, Soriano and 2b. Add Soto with a little more luck and anything from Soriano or 2b and I believe the Cardinals would been looking up at the Cubs.

 

Talking about moving Fukudome isn't really calling him the problem, it's talking about restructuring the payroll situation on a team with way too much money tied up into guys who aren't productive enough. Presumably you'd get something valuable back and then replace him in a cost effective manner.

[Tyrant]

Trade Lee, move Aramis to 1B, try to get Alex Gordon from the Royals, trade for JJ Hardy, move Theriot to second.

 

Yeah. I don't really like it either.

[TruffleShuffle]

Trade Lee, move Aramis to 1B, try to get Alex Gordon from the Royals, trade for JJ Hardy, move Theriot to second.

 

Yeah. I don't really like it either.

 

i actually kinda like the hardy idea. he's a perfect buy-low option.

[gflore34]

What about Tejada? He's a FA, he's got way more in the tank than Soriano, for year or two he could take care of offense from the SS. Given he's a FA next season I wonder if the Astros would be interested in moving him now.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Trade Lee, move Aramis to 1B, try to get Alex Gordon from the Royals, trade for JJ Hardy, move Theriot to second.

 

Yeah. I don't really like it either.

 

i actually kinda like the hardy idea. he's a perfect buy-low option.

 

I like Hardy too, but the problem is that when dealing with a division rival, I doubt wed be buying low.

[TruffleShuffle]

What about Tejada? He's a FA, he's got way more in the tank than Soriano, for year or two he could take care of offense from the SS. Given he's a FA next season I wonder if the Astros would be interested in moving him now.

 

he's a lousy SS now and has put up a line of .258/.291/.363/.654 in the second half. i'd stay away.

[Outshined_One]

Trade Lee, move Aramis to 1B, try to get Alex Gordon from the Royals, trade for JJ Hardy, move Theriot to second.

 

Yeah. I don't really like it either.

 

i actually kinda like the hardy idea. he's a perfect buy-low option.

 

Considering Gordon was just demoted, he's also a good buy low candidate.

[nick23]

Were just limited to 2nd, SS, and an OF spot to try to improve the offense. I don't like Uggla enough to give up prospects for him, though I am fine with Orlando Hudson even though we balked last year. At SS I am not sure who we can actually get.

I want no part of Orlando Hudson but would love to get Uggla from Florida. I know the defense is pretty bad but putting up those numbers in that park is pretty promising. Maybe Hendry/Lou give up on their lefty obsession and at least explore the idea.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Were just limited to 2nd, SS, and an OF spot to try to improve the offense. I don't like Uggla enough to give up prospects for him, though I am fine with Orlando Hudson even though we balked last year. At SS I am not sure who we can actually get.

I want no part of Orlando Hudson but would love to get Uggla from Florida. I know the defense is pretty bad but putting up those numbers in that park is pretty promising. Maybe Hendry/Lou give up on their lefty obsession and at least explore the idea.

 

Offensively, Ugglas a really poor mans version of Adam Dunn, and defensively, hes just not very good.

[gflore34]

Seconded about Uggla, sure he'll hit a few HR's but, I never considered him to be a very good hitter.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Trade Lee, move Aramis to 1B, try to get Alex Gordon from the Royals, trade for JJ Hardy, move Theriot to second.

 

Yeah. I don't really like it either.

 

I wonder if Gordon could even play a mediocre 2B for 2 years and succeed Ramirez at 3B. Getting Hardy would help because you'd have him and Theriot around for a late inning defensive infield. Or if Gordon really blows up offensively and can't do 2B you could move him(or Ramirez) to 1B and go forward with trading Lee.

[dew1679666265]

Were just limited to 2nd, SS, and an OF spot to try to improve the offense. I don't like Uggla enough to give up prospects for him, though I am fine with Orlando Hudson even though we balked last year. At SS I am not sure who we can actually get.

I want no part of Orlando Hudson but would love to get Uggla from Florida. I know the defense is pretty bad but putting up those numbers in that park is pretty promising. Maybe Hendry/Lou give up on their lefty obsession and at least explore the idea.

 

Offensively, Ugglas a really poor mans version of Adam Dunn, and defensively, hes just not very good.

 

I'd be interested in Uggla. A second baseman who can OPS in the low .800s with bad luck (this year) and .874 in a good year (last year) is a really nice player to have. UZR has his defense as not so good (-2.7 UZR/150), but not terrible.

 

The Marlins will likely want too much for him, though.

[Keener98]

Fukudome's contract isn't really an issue.

 

No, but he's not an ideal defensive CF, has basically been a platoon partner, and more importantly, potentially the only tradable position player. 2/26.5 for his age 33 and 34 seasons, I think the Cubs might be able to find a better way to spend that money.

 

Well that would be fine if they could find a way to spend the money, but I'm not comfortable with Bradley as a full-time CF(not cause of his defense, but because of the prospects of Reed Johnsons starting 70 times a year.) I'm also not comfortable giving Jason Bay whatever insane contract he's likely to get.

 

Finding a CF platoon(or player) that hits like the ones we've had the last 2 seasons, is costly in dollars or talent. I'd rather eat 3M/Y on Dempster and trade him than open a gaping hole in CF.

 

Start the Colvin watch to work in with Bradley.

 

Jason Bay is better than the free agents the Cubs have gone after in recent years. Although I don't think that's the approach I'd take.

 

I also want no part of a soon to be 31 years old Jason Bay and the ridiculous contract hes going to get.

[pitchcs]

Were just limited to 2nd, SS, and an OF spot to try to improve the offense. I don't like Uggla enough to give up prospects for him, though I am fine with Orlando Hudson even though we balked last year. At SS I am not sure who we can actually get.

I want no part of Orlando Hudson but would love to get Uggla from Florida. I know the defense is pretty bad but putting up those numbers in that park is pretty promising. Maybe Hendry/Lou give up on their lefty obsession and at least explore the idea.

 

Offensively, Ugglas a really poor mans version of Adam Dunn, and defensively, hes just not very good.

 

I'd be interested in Uggla. A second baseman who can OPS in the low .800s with bad luck (this year) and .874 in a good year (last year) is a really nice player to have. UZR has his defense as not so good (-2.7 UZR/150), but not terrible.

 

The Marlins will likely want too much for him, though.

 

 

Uggla is going to be 30 next season; I see a decline coming.

 

Decline from what, I'm not sure as he's not a very good hitter. Power I guess.

[dew1679666265]

Were just limited to 2nd, SS, and an OF spot to try to improve the offense. I don't like Uggla enough to give up prospects for him, though I am fine with Orlando Hudson even though we balked last year. At SS I am not sure who we can actually get.

I want no part of Orlando Hudson but would love to get Uggla from Florida. I know the defense is pretty bad but putting up those numbers in that park is pretty promising. Maybe Hendry/Lou give up on their lefty obsession and at least explore the idea.

 

Offensively, Ugglas a really poor mans version of Adam Dunn, and defensively, hes just not very good.

 

I'd be interested in Uggla. A second baseman who can OPS in the low .800s with bad luck (this year) and .874 in a good year (last year) is a really nice player to have. UZR has his defense as not so good (-2.7 UZR/150), but not terrible.

 

The Marlins will likely want too much for him, though.

 

 

Uggla is going to be 30 next season; I see a decline coming.

 

Decline from what, I'm not sure as he's not a very good hitter. Power I guess.

 

He's had OBPs of .360 and .356 the past two seasons and SLGs of .514 and .454 those same years. That .454 SLG is the worst he's had in his career, but he's slugged .610 in the month of August. He's a good player, especially for a second baseman.

 

That said, he is about to turn 30, but I don't think a sharp decline is likely. And he's not a free agent - he's still arbitration eligible for (I believe) two more seasons. Thus, we'd likely have a pair of one-year deals for him at likely between $5.35 million (his current salary) and probably $9-$10 million. That's a pretty decent deal, if the Marlins don't demand too much.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I get a sick feeling that Lee and/or Fukudome and/or Lilly will be traded in the offseason. I really hope not. Id really like to see what this group as a whole can do next year, again, just add a closer like Valverde, Soriano, or even Billy Wagner if we could get him for a Trevor Hoffman-esque 1 year contract.

[SouthSideRyan]

I just got a sick feeling that Von Joshua is going to be let go.

[Gingerballs Lives]

I get a sick feeling that Lee and/or Fukudome and/or Lilly will be traded in the offseason. I really hope not. Id really like to see what this group as a whole can do next year, again, just add a closer like Valverde, Soriano, or even Billy Wagner if we could get him for a Trevor Hoffman-esque 1 year contract.

 

I'd be all for trading Lilly if it meant the Cubs could keep Harden.

 

I love Lilly but Harden is younger and better.

 

As for the other two, they both are having good seasons but nobody on this team is untouchable.

 

I'd love for Hendry to find a way to get Soriano off the team, even if it means eating some of that albatross.

[A-Cal]

I get a sick feeling that Lee and/or Fukudome and/or Lilly will be traded in the offseason. I really hope not. Id really like to see what this group as a whole can do next year, again, just add a closer like Valverde, Soriano, or even Billy Wagner if we could get him for a Trevor Hoffman-esque 1 year contract.

 

I'd be all for trading Lilly if it meant the Cubs could keep Harden.

 

I love Lilly but Harden is younger and better.

 

As for the other two, they both are having good seasons but nobody on this team is untouchable.

 

I'd love for Hendry to find a way to get Soriano off the team, even if it means eating some of that albatross.

 

lilly is the best pitcher on this team...the problem with harden is that whatever is wrong with his shoulder hasn't healed...he needs surgery...which should have been done during the offseason