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Nobody is saying Soler is better than Buxton, but wrist injuries are a big deal.

 

But people are saying that Soler fell because of injuries therefore Buxton has to fall because of injuries. It's a huge leap.

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Nobody is saying Soler is better than Buxton, but wrist injuries are a big deal.

 

But people are saying that Soler fell because of injuries therefore Buxton has to fall because of injuries. It's a huge leap.

 

yeah, but wrist injuries seem way more worrisome than the injuries soler has had (not that they are to be taken lightly either)

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Nobody is saying Soler is better than Buxton, but wrist injuries are a big deal.

 

But people are saying that Soler fell because of injuries therefore Buxton has to fall because of injuries. It's a huge leap.

 

Not really, if you believe wrist injuries are far more concerning to a hitters' long term success than broken shins and hamstring sprains.

 

I wouldn't even drop Buxton lower than, say, 3 (behind Correa and Bryant).

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Nobody is saying Soler is better than Buxton, but wrist injuries are a big deal.

 

But people are saying that Soler fell because of injuries therefore Buxton has to fall because of injuries. It's a huge leap.

 

yeah, but wrist injuries seem way more worrisome than the injuries soler has had (not that they are to be taken lightly either)

 

But Soler's injuries have proven to be a repetitive issue and because of that, three years into his pro career he hasn't amassed a season's worth of PA. Buxton's injury has not prevented him from already having proven himself over more than 700 PA by age 20. Unless you are assuming his injury has significantly altered his future and offset what he has done, there is no real reason to knock him down, regardless of how they view Soler's situation. It is completely different.

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Nobody is saying Soler is better than Buxton, but wrist injuries are a big deal.

 

But people are saying that Soler fell because of injuries therefore Buxton has to fall because of injuries. It's a huge leap.

 

Not really, if you believe wrist injuries are far more concerning to a hitters' long term success than broken shins and hamstring sprains.

 

I wouldn't even drop Buxton lower than, say, 3 (behind Correa and Bryant).

 

So you are whining about a lack of falling by 2 spots?

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Nobody is saying Soler is better than Buxton, but wrist injuries are a big deal.

 

But people are saying that Soler fell because of injuries therefore Buxton has to fall because of injuries. It's a huge leap.

 

yeah, but wrist injuries seem way more worrisome than the injuries soler has had (not that they are to be taken lightly either)

 

But Soler's injuries have proven to be a repetitive issue and because of that, three years into his pro career he hasn't amassed a season's worth of PA. Buxton's injury has not prevented him from already having proven himself over more than 700 PA by age 20. Unless you are assuming his injury has significantly altered his future and offset what he has done, there is no real reason to knock him down, regardless of how they view Soler's situation. It is completely different.

 

But 680 of these PAs occurred before he injured his wrist.

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Nobody is saying Soler is better than Buxton, but wrist injuries are a big deal.

 

But people are saying that Soler fell because of injuries therefore Buxton has to fall because of injuries. It's a huge leap.

 

Not really, if you believe wrist injuries are far more concerning to a hitters' long term success than broken shins and hamstring sprains.

 

I wouldn't even drop Buxton lower than, say, 3 (behind Correa and Bryant).

 

So you are whining about a lack of falling by 2 spots?

 

1) disagreeing with you isn't whining. 2) it's a bigger deal when it's the #1 spot (bigger deal in the prospect ranking sense, not in the sense of actually being a big deal)

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Nobody is saying Soler is better than Buxton, but wrist injuries are a big deal.

 

But people are saying that Soler fell because of injuries therefore Buxton has to fall because of injuries. It's a huge leap.

 

Not really, if you believe wrist injuries are far more concerning to a hitters' long term success than broken shins and hamstring sprains.

 

I wouldn't even drop Buxton lower than, say, 3 (behind Correa and Bryant).

 

So you are whining about a lack of falling by 2 spots?

 

welcome to the minor league forum.

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Nobody is saying Soler is better than Buxton, but wrist injuries are a big deal.

 

But people are saying that Soler fell because of injuries therefore Buxton has to fall because of injuries. It's a huge leap.

 

Not really, if you believe wrist injuries are far more concerning to a hitters' long term success than broken shins and hamstring sprains.

 

I wouldn't even drop Buxton lower than, say, 3 (behind Correa and Bryant).

 

So you are whining about a lack of falling by 2 spots?

 

I am "whining" about a lack of consistent logic being applied to their rankings.

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whatever happened to Ivan Pineyro? I assume he's done for the year as I haven't heard anything about him rehabbing.

 

Forearm strain, possibly a precursor to TJS.

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on the Soler topic, it's funny (for me) to think these guys would balk at trading Clint Frazier for Soler

 

but he'll come up and do Brian Jordan things and i guess everybody can act surprised about it when it happens

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BA really went all out on their mid-season top 50 blurbs.

 

Power has been just as advertised, while his defense has been better than expected.

 

Missed half the year with a hamstring problem; remains an elite all-around shortstop prospect with his new team

 

Long-term potential is still as an elite regular, but he has to moderate his swing-from-the-heels approach.

 

Hard not to like an athletic middle infielder who can play short in a pinch and has power and speed.

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on the Soler topic, it's funny (for me) to think these guys would balk at trading Clint Frazier for Soler

 

but he'll come up and do Brian Jordan things and i guess everybody can act surprised about it when it happens

 

i [expletive] loved brian jordan

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on the Soler topic, it's funny (for me) to think these guys would balk at trading Clint Frazier for Soler

 

but he'll come up and do Brian Jordan things and i guess everybody can act surprised about it when it happens

 

i [expletive] loved brian jordan

 

He was very handsome

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Is Soler eligible to play in the AZFL again this year? I know there are some restrictions on how many times guys can go, right? Guessing they will have him playing somewhere though, even if it's a winter league?
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Is Soler eligible to play in the AZFL again this year? I know there are some restrictions on how many times guys can go, right? Guessing they will have him playing somewhere though, even if it's a winter league?

 

I'm pretty sure there's not a limit to how many times yo can go. I don't think they like having guys who have played in the majors going though unless it's a special circumstance. I suspect Soler and Russell are locks to play in the AFL with their injures and missed time.

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Is Soler eligible to play in the AZFL again this year? I know there are some restrictions on how many times guys can go, right? Guessing they will have him playing somewhere though, even if it's a winter league?

 

Soler and Russell will be eligible to go again. I think it's likely both will go, as will CJ Edwards and Pierce Johnson.

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Is Soler eligible to play in the AZFL again this year? I know there are some restrictions on how many times guys can go, right? Guessing they will have him playing somewhere though, even if it's a winter league?

 

Soler and Russell will be eligible to go again. I think it's likely both will go, as will CJ Edwards and Pierce Johnson.

 

Hoping Schwarber goes too just because

 

Wouldn't mind Almora going for the development time but I could see an argument that he's played a lot and it might be too much

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Is Soler eligible to play in the AZFL again this year? I know there are some restrictions on how many times guys can go, right? Guessing they will have him playing somewhere though, even if it's a winter league?

 

Soler and Russell will be eligible to go again. I think it's likely both will go, as will CJ Edwards and Pierce Johnson.

 

Hoping Schwarber goes too just because

 

Wouldn't mind Almora going for the development time but I could see an argument that he's played a lot and it might be too much

Isn't there a limit on the number of players a team can send?

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Is Soler eligible to play in the AZFL again this year? I know there are some restrictions on how many times guys can go, right? Guessing they will have him playing somewhere though, even if it's a winter league?

 

Soler and Russell will be eligible to go again. I think it's likely both will go, as will CJ Edwards and Pierce Johnson.

 

Hoping Schwarber goes too just because

 

Wouldn't mind Almora going for the development time but I could see an argument that he's played a lot and it might be too much

Isn't there a limit on the number of players a team can send?

 

The Arizona Fall League teams are each affiliated with five separate Major League teams; each affiliated Major League team provides seven players who team up to fill the 35-man roster of each team.[1] Additionally, teams may elect to send Taxi Squad players who are only eligible on Wednesdays and Saturdays. MLB teams also provide managers, coaches, and trainers.[1]

 

You can send two guys below AA.

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MKPJ (Chicago): Thoughts on Schwarber? Can he handle Left Field?

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: I haven't seen him as a pro so I can't answer the defensive question. I've heard from scouts that aren't in love with his defensive profile in the outfield, but as every single one of them put it, the bat is where he will make his money. The kid can absolutely hit.

 

Balki (Chicago): With the recent acquisition of the Addison Russel, Billy McKinney and Dan Straily do the Cubs now have the best farm in the league?

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: Pretty good case; nobody can touch their impact bats; depth is obviously improving but it had a long way to go. I think Cubs and Twins are the two alphas of the minor league systems.

 

spncrpatterson (SBP): In the Top 50 you said with a strong second half that Addison Russell could challenge for the top spot in the minors. Like...above Buxton?

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: Yes. He's a legit shortstop (he will stick at the position; ignore others who suggest he won't) with a legit hit tool and legit power potential. Those players are extremely rare, and if he starts to put it together on the field after the hamstring injury setback, he could challenge Buxton for the top spot in the minors. This is a very high-end talent.

 

Jeff Moore (in my room): Who will be the Cubs' starting SS in 2016?

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: Addison Russell

 

Manny (Iowa): I know the difference between #1 and #3 is splitting hairs, but can you make the case for Kris Bryant being no doubt #1 prospect in the game? Has absolutely demolished AA and now AAA, where as Buxton and Correa have battled injuries and never been above A ball. Their ceilings that much higher?

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: Bryant has a case. As good as he will be, I don't think he profiles at a premium spot with a premium ceiling, like Buxton and Correa. Keep in mind that both Buxton and Correa were high school draftees and they aren't in the same spot as Bryant--developmentally speaking. That makes the projections more abstract--which can make ranking them alongside polished college mashers quite difficult.

 

JWhitlow (IL): CJ Edwards not high enough to make cut? Or injury ?

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: I wasn't top 50 high on him before the injury.

 

Tim (Munster, IN): Has your opinion on Kris Bryant's hit tool improved? I believe you had him at a 5 for hit in the pre-season list with a concern that the hit tool could limit his in-game power.

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: I still think he's a 5 hit tool at the end of the day, which might end up being low. I think he's going to offer more swing and miss at the higher levels, which shouldn't limit his game power but should bring down his average. Maybe a .265/.270 bat with 30+ bombs? I'll take that all day long.

 

Jordan (Vegas): First off, I want to say thank you for the great work you and your team does Jason. Truly appreciate it... I wanted to ask what your opinion was on if the Cubs could of gotten more for Shark and Hammel? A few reports say the could of. I don't believe them. Your thoughts?

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: I can't imagine a scenario outside of a drunk fantasy baseball trade where the Cubs could have landed a better player than Addison Russell in the trade.

 

Jordan (Vegas): Who has the better career? Baez or Russell?

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: Russell

 

John (Chicago): Albert Almora has 10 walks in half a season. Please tell me things will get better with him.

 

Jason Parks on the Top 50: I care more about how players hit in the low minors than how often they walk.

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