Dunn is awesome...No he's not...Yes he is!!!

[E.J.]

Feel free to continue discussions about Adam Dunn's worth as a baseball player in this forum. Do not turn this into a chit-chat thread again or it will be locked for good.

[Rob]

most of hitting with risp is just luck, and not lucthness/unlcutchness. of course dunn's BA with risp is low, so is his overall average.

 

Well, then I guess I'll go with Morneau cause he's lucky then. In 940 career PA (just so you don't argue sample size), Morneau has had 2.5 PA per RBI with RISP.

 

Dunn in 1322 PA has 3.4 PA per RBI with RISP.

 

You call it luck, I call it Morneau putting more of an emphasis on putting the ball in play to try and score a runner. Either way, I still say that it's a reason why Morneau is a better hitter.

 

For their careers, Morneau gets on base at a .394 clip with RISP. Dunn gets on at a .416 clip. We could just as easily say that Dunn is significantly better a hitter because he keeps the rally going more often than Morneau.

 

Of course, all of the arguments I've seen in this thread are asinine.

 

Dunn is a good ballplayer, but I wouldn't want Hendry to sign him for the money he's going to get... then again, I'm assuming Felix Pie can hit at a league average clip for us, so take my opinion for what its worth.

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most of hitting with risp is just luck, and not lucthness/unlcutchness. of course dunn's BA with risp is low, so is his overall average.

 

Well, then I guess I'll go with Morneau cause he's lucky then. In 940 career PA (just so you don't argue sample size), Morneau has had 2.5 PA per RBI with RISP.

 

Dunn in 1322 PA has 3.4 PA per RBI with RISP.

 

You call it luck, I call it Morneau putting more of an emphasis on putting the ball in play to try and score a runner. Either way, I still say that it's a reason why Morneau is a better hitter.

 

Okay, but what about RBI per PA withOUT runners scoring position? If you're going to post the RISP RBI numbers, thrn you have to post the other ones too. Otherwise you're just cherrypicking stats.

 

Of course Morneau hits better with RISP than Dunn- he hits for better average than Dunn. That's to be expected.

 

I've already mentioned this, but I'll do it again. They get their RBIs in different ways. Morneau gets his by hitting for better average (hence the good average with RISP), while Dunn hits bombs. Why is one better than the other? They are still worth the same amount of runs for the team.

 

Also, you're acting as though Dunn makes a lot of outs w/risp, which isn't true. Dunn's career OBP w/risp is .416, which is better than Morneau's. That means he is keeping more rallies going. You can look at it either way.

[wekse]

Feel free to continue discussions about Adam Dunn's worth as a baseball player in this forum. Do not turn this into a chit-chat thread again or it will be locked for good.

 

i see no evidence of this turning into a chit-chat thread...but feel free to lock it anyway since you can.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

What this thread needs is pics of walruses and cats.

[scarey]

Feel free to continue discussions about Adam Dunn's worth as a baseball player in this forum. Do not turn this into a chit-chat thread again or it will be locked for good.

 

 

Chit chat? On an internet forum? We wouldn't want that!

[Roast]

Damn, why are we being so snotty to E.J.

 

It was very much turning into a chit-chat thread before he moved/split and deleted some of the stuff in here.

[Sammy Sofa]

Feel free to continue discussions about Adam Dunn's worth as a baseball player in this forum. Do not turn this into a chit-chat thread again or it will be locked for good.

 

A/S/L?

[bukie]

Feel free to continue discussions about Adam Dunn's worth as a baseball player in this forum. Do not turn this into a chit-chat thread again or it will be locked for good.

 

 

Chit chat? On an internet forum? We wouldn't want that!

Yeah, if there's anything this board needs, it's a social forum with the ability to make chit-chat threads.

[BigbadB]

Sorry to be so late to this thread. Are we considering Justin Morneau for our LH RF?

[bukie]

Sorry to be so late to this thread. Are we considering Justin Morneau for our LH RF?

I wish.

 

Among the possibilities of Dunn, Bradley, Hermida, and using what the Cubs already have on the team/in the system, I think that Bradley would provide the highest production to cost ratio, unless Dunn's perceived value is so low that he could be acquired for less than Bradley.

[Derwood]

this just in: guys with low career batting averages just might have low career averages with RISP, in the post-season, etc.

[Clem Fandango]

this just in: guys with low career batting averages just might have low career averages with RISP, in the post-season, etc.

 

Where do you get off saying that kind of slanderous slander?

 

Dunn is good. I like Dunn. I also like Bradley. I'd be happy with either. Happier with Dunn though.

 

This has been Logan's hard hitting internet analysis. Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

What about Alou? I think we should bring back Alou.

[laurens]

What about Alou? I think we should bring back Alou.

:banned:

[Productive Outs]

Damn, why are we being so snotty to E.J.

 

It was very much turning into a chit-chat thread before he moved/split and deleted some of the stuff in here.

 

Thank you, Moderator Roast.

 

I would guess that people are being "snotty" to E.J. do to his obsession with locking threads.

 

Bradley > Dunn (better not add to the chit chat problem)

[E.J.]

Damn, why are we being so snotty to E.J.

 

It was very much turning into a chit-chat thread before he moved/split and deleted some of the stuff in here.

 

Thank you, Moderator Roast.

 

I would guess that people are being "snotty" to E.J. do to his obsession with locking threads.

 

Bradley > Dunn (better not add to the chit chat problem)

 

and a kick in the nuts to you good sir.

[scarey]

this just in: guys with low career batting averages just might have lower career averages with RISP, in the post-season, etc.

 

 

Fixed.

[Derwood]

this just in: guys with low career batting averages just might have lower career averages with RISP, in the post-season, etc.

 

 

Fixed.

 

a home run is the best possible result of any at-bat. why do you discredit them so much?

 

also, since we're continuing this weird Dunn vs. Morneau comparison

 

w/RISP:

 

Dunn made an out in 58.4% of his plate appearances

Morneau made an out in 60.6% of his plate appearances

 

other notables:

 

Bradley - 61.5%

Abreu - 56.1%

Ibanez - 62%

Gathright - 64.2%

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necause run batted in by singles are worth more than runs batted in by home runs. duh

[SouthSideRyan]

I also agree that we should sign Morneau to be our starting RF.

 

Also: Roast for mod.

[scarey]

necause run batted in by singles are worth more than runs batted in by home runs. duh

 

If there's more runs batted in by the singles... then yes, they are better.

[bukie]

necause run batted in by singles are worth more than runs batted in by home runs. duh

 

If there's more runs batted in by the singles... then yes, they are better.

There is never a situation where a single will drive in more runs than a home run.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

necause run batted in by singles are worth more than runs batted in by home runs. duh

 

If there's more runs batted in by the singles... then yes, they are better.

There is never a situation where a single will drive in more runs than a home run.

I remember seeing Willie Greene score on his own single against the Expos once

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MON/MON200005140.shtml

[hardcorecubfan]

necause run batted in by singles are worth more than runs batted in by home runs. duh

 

If there's more runs batted in by the singles... then yes, they are better.

 

that all depends if the bases are clogged with those darn guys that keep walking, it called the "Dusty factor."