Jake Peavy: Available.

[nilodnayr]

At least this makes me happy

 

The St. Louis Post Dispatch reports that general manager John Mozeliak has "all but dismissed the Cardinals as players for" Jake Peavy.

 

Peavy's agent previously listed St. Louis among five cities his client would be interested in, but the Cardinals just gave Kyle Lohse a big contract and are also locked into Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright through 2011.

 

Ah, apparently there is such a thing as "too much pitching".

 

No, but there is such a thing as "finite resources".

 

It's not even a resources thing. They've got plenty of money, their owner just doesn't like to spend a lot of it. They aren't Cubs, Bosox, or Yankees loaded, but they certainly aren't hurting for cash even with funding the new stadium.

 

Peavy is going to cost more than just money.

[Jehrico]

Braves state they won't give up any top prospects, even for Peavy...

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11056557

[nilodnayr]

Braves state they won't give up any top prospects, even for Peavy...

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11056557

 

 

They certainly have the depth to deal one of their OF prospects (Heyward, Schafer, Jones, Hernandez) and not blink an eye, but outside of the SP crop that just graduated and Hanson, it doesn't seem to me like they have anything that could fit the "two major league ready SP" requirement.

[Cubswin11]

Braves state they won't give up any top prospects, even for Peavy...

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11056557

 

 

They certainly have the depth to deal one of their OF prospects (Heyward, Schafer, Jones, Hernandez) and not blink an eye, but outside of the SP crop that just graduated and Hanson, it doesn't seem to me like they have anything that could fit the "two major league ready SP" requirement.

While the Braves seem to be able to make some sort of a package work, if I was them I wouldn't sell the farm to get Peavy, they are more than just a Peavy away from contending next year, and a trade could set them back instead of making them better, if they got Peavy outside of him their rotation is still average as Hudson might not be back next year with his injury, Glavine is a number 4 at best, Smoltz might be done, Jurjens(sp?) is good but still learning then they got a bunch of guys still not ready/just average at best talent to pick from. They need at least one more bat and their bullpen could use work(as most teams do from year to year).

It's starting to look like Peavy might need to expand his list of acceptable teams or else the Padres might need to lower their demands from the listed teams(which they shouldn't and probably won't). This could all be a bluff by the Braves/Cardinals too as they may try to lower demands/act not as interested.

[BigbadB]

Braves state they won't give up any top prospects, even for Peavy...

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11056557

 

This is the story I was waiting for. The Braves are retooling. Peavy doesn't help them now. If the Padres were trading Peavy two years from now, I might think the Braves would consider it. But, not this year.

 

Sell high on Theriot. Antonelli probably isn't ready in the eyes of Padres brass. Theriot can play SS or 2nd if they move Khalil Greene. The Padres emphasis this offseason is going to be speed.

 

I know the package that has been suggested is CF and 2 SP's, but I'd bet that they would have interest in Theriot. Obviously not as the centerpiece in the deal, but the Padres could use Theriot at 2nd or SS if they pedal Greene, which it sounds like they would like to do.

 

Theriot, Pie, Marshall, Rich Hill, Samardzija, Marmol, Vitters, Colvin, Ceda (formerly a Padre) is potential trade bait to land Peavy. Remove Samardzija if you must because of his NTC, but I'm sure there are other names that could be brought into the discussion as well. (PTBNL Cashner).

 

Heck, let's just give them all of our #1 picks for the last 5 years. That ought to do it. :thumbsup:

[mdwilla]

Braves

Astros

Cards

 

Have all three of these teams dropped out?

[RedFlash]

Braves

Astros

Cards

 

Have all three of these teams dropped out?

 

Braves and Cards droppped out on their own, the Astros were eliminated because they don't have anything remotely close to the kind of package to get Peavy.

 

Which leads me to my original thought from a few days ago and that is don't see Peavy traded this offseason.

[nilodnayr]

Braves

Astros

Cards

 

Have all three of these teams dropped out?

 

I wouldn't call the Braves officially out. And the Astros didn't say anything but they don't have anywhere close to the players to make the deal without totally flushing their team down the crapper.

[rawaction]

 

This is the story I was waiting for. The Braves are retooling. Peavy doesn't help them now. If the Padres were trading Peavy two years from now, I might think the Braves would consider it. But, not this year.

 

The Braves have a history of making trades to set them up for future years, though. They were technically in the race in 07, but were in 3rd place in the NL East with the 8th best record in the league when they traded for Teixeira. They traded for Wickman and Baez when they were 14 games out in '06.

 

And I don't know that I would agree that Peavy doesn't help them now. Peavy gives them a #1 to compete w/ Santana and Hamels. Jurrjens as a #2 may be the best 2 in that division. Offense is probably an OF (or a Francoeur resurgence) away from being strong enough to seriously contend. I could see them making a run at one of the FA OFs (Bradley, Burrell, Ibanez).

[RedFlash]

 

This is the story I was waiting for. The Braves are retooling. Peavy doesn't help them now. If the Padres were trading Peavy two years from now, I might think the Braves would consider it. But, not this year.

 

The Braves have a history of making trades to set them up for future years, though. They were technically in the race in 07, but were in 3rd place in the NL East with the 8th best record in the league when they traded for Teixeira. They traded for Wickman and Baez when they were 14 games out in '06.

 

And I don't know that I would agree that Peavy doesn't help them now. Peavy gives them a #1 to compete w/ Santana and Hamels. Jurrjens as a #2 may be the best 2 in that division. Offense is probably an OF (or a Francoeur resurgence) away from being strong enough to seriously contend. I could see them making a run at one of the FA OFs (Bradley, Burrell, Ibanez).

 

I wasn't a fan of the Tex move, because everybody saw it on the wall as a desparate attempt to draw people back to Braves with the false hope that they were a playoff caliber team. If failed. And ultimately they bought high on Tex

(Salty/Andrus etc) then they sold low on him (Kotchman and prospect). Not a good business move, IMO. Granted they wouldn't have to move Peavy immediately after acquiring him, but you have to believe that the Braves only trade for Peavy if they are fully committed to winning next yr, and Idk if they will be.

[rawaction]

 

This is the story I was waiting for. The Braves are retooling. Peavy doesn't help them now. If the Padres were trading Peavy two years from now, I might think the Braves would consider it. But, not this year.

 

The Braves have a history of making trades to set them up for future years, though. They were technically in the race in 07, but were in 3rd place in the NL East with the 8th best record in the league when they traded for Teixeira. They traded for Wickman and Baez when they were 14 games out in '06.

 

And I don't know that I would agree that Peavy doesn't help them now. Peavy gives them a #1 to compete w/ Santana and Hamels. Jurrjens as a #2 may be the best 2 in that division. Offense is probably an OF (or a Francoeur resurgence) away from being strong enough to seriously contend. I could see them making a run at one of the FA OFs (Bradley, Burrell, Ibanez).

 

I wasn't a fan of the Tex move, because everybody saw it on the wall as a desparate attempt to draw people back to Braves with the false hope that they were a playoff caliber team. If failed. And ultimately they bought high on Tex

(Salty/Andrus etc) then they sold low on him (Kotchman and prospect). Not a good business move, IMO. Granted they wouldn't have to move Peavy immediately after acquiring him, but you have to believe that the Braves only trade for Peavy if they are fully committed to winning next yr, and Idk if they will be.

 

I think they are. Chipper's almost done. They are young everywhere else, but they have some talent. If they get Peavy, they may be able to hold on long enough to get Hudson back mid-season and Smoltz possibly before that. With Smoltz, they have a dominant bullpen w/ him, Soriano and Mike Gonzalez at the back end.

[UMFan83]

Phil Rodgers. It's under his "whispers" section but I doubt its more than speculation

 

The Cubs are on the list of teams for which Jake Peavy will waive his no-trade clause. This doesn't look like a fit, but don't be surprised if Jim Hendry tries to put together a package that would include a swap of first basemen, Derrek Lee and Adrian Gonzalez, who is supposedly untouchable.

[MSG T]

Phil Rodgers. It's under his "whispers" section but I doubt its more than speculation

 

The Cubs are on the list of teams for which Jake Peavy will waive his no-trade clause. This doesn't look like a fit, but don't be surprised if Jim Hendry tries to put together a package that would include a swap of first basemen, Derrek Lee and Adrian Gonzalez, who is supposedly untouchable.

 

Adrian Gonzalez? I can't believe they have a chance, but wow, that would be fantastic.

 

Oh, wait. That's Phil Rogers.

 

Nevermind.

[Post Count Padder]

If we could pull off a trade including Peavy and Gonzalez, I'd probably faint.

 

That said, no way it's happening.

[nilodnayr]

Phil Rodgers. It's under his "whispers" section but I doubt its more than speculation

 

The Cubs are on the list of teams for which Jake Peavy will waive his no-trade clause. This doesn't look like a fit, but don't be surprised if Jim Hendry tries to put together a package that would include a swap of first basemen, Derrek Lee and Adrian Gonzalez, who is supposedly untouchable.

 

Does he think hes writing an article for a video game audience? Seriously, that might be the most [expletive] trade proposal that has been published...thats quite an accomplishment.

[CubinNY]

Phil Rodgers. It's under his "whispers" section but I doubt its more than speculation

 

The Cubs are on the list of teams for which Jake Peavy will waive his no-trade clause. This doesn't look like a fit, but don't be surprised if Jim Hendry tries to put together a package that would include a swap of first basemen, Derrek Lee and Adrian Gonzalez, who is supposedly untouchable.

 

Does he think hes writing an article for a video game audience? Seriously, that might be the most [expletive] trade proposal that has been published...thats quite an accomplishment.

It's worse than some of the most ridiculous trade proposals that posters on ESPN.com and Cubs.com would propose.

 

But what do we know, we've never been in a big league locker room while everyone played grabass and poker.

[Backtobanks]

Phil Rodgers. It's under his "whispers" section but I doubt its more than speculation

 

The Cubs are on the list of teams for which Jake Peavy will waive his no-trade clause. This doesn't look like a fit, but don't be surprised if Jim Hendry tries to put together a package that would include a swap of first basemen, Derrek Lee and Adrian Gonzalez, who is supposedly untouchable.

 

Does he think hes writing an article for a video game audience? Seriously, that might be the most [expletive] trade proposal that has been published...thats quite an accomplishment.

 

I posted this "rumor" under the "Derrek Lee being traded" thread earlier this morning. That thread had discussion about how idiotic Rogers (and Sullivan) are with their "rumors", so I thought it was the appropriate place for this discussion.

 

Gonzalez - 26 yrs old .279/.361/.510 with 36 HRs and 119 RBI making $875,000.

Lee- 33 yrs old .291/.361/.462 with 20 HRs and 90 RBI making $13,250,000.

 

The Cubs would have to add something (Pie?) to Lee just to get Gonzalez. Imagine what they would have to add to the package to get Gonzalez AND Peavy.

Rogers is an idiot.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Kevin Towers would have to sustain some major head trauma to even think about dealing Peavy and Gonzalez for Lee. Phil Rogers is a gem

[Little Slide Rooter]

Phil Rodgers. It's under his "whispers" section but I doubt its more than speculation

 

The Cubs are on the list of teams for which Jake Peavy will waive his no-trade clause. This doesn't look like a fit, but don't be surprised if Jim Hendry tries to put together a package that would include a swap of first basemen, Derrek Lee and Adrian Gonzalez, who is supposedly untouchable.

 

Does he think hes writing an article for a video game audience? Seriously, that might be the most [expletive] trade proposal that has been published...thats quite an accomplishment.

It's worse than some of the most ridiculous trade proposals that posters on ESPN.com and Cubs.com would propose.

 

But what do we know, we've never been in a big league locker room while everyone played grabass and poker.

 

With the fact that wed not only be getting one of the best pitchers in the league, plus swapping our first baseman for a younger, better, at least offensively first baseman suggests that wed also end up giving up god knows what. Hey, Id be all for it, but I really, really dont see such a deal going down.

[Vanilla Ice]

wed probably have to give up our entire AAA, AA, and A teams.

[CubinNY]

wed probably have to give up our entire AAA, AA, and A teams.

There isn't enough talent in any of those rosters either

 

badumbum

 

 

I'm here all week folks. Don't for get to tip you waitress.

[Guest]

Phil Rodgers. It's under his "whispers" section but I doubt its more than speculation

 

The Cubs are on the list of teams for which Jake Peavy will waive his no-trade clause. This doesn't look like a fit, but don't be surprised if Jim Hendry tries to put together a package that would include a swap of first basemen, Derrek Lee and Adrian Gonzalez, who is supposedly untouchable.

 

And this is why you don't write articles when you're really, really drunk.

[JohnF]

More on the Cubs and Peavy in the Daily Herald:

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=245654

 

The Padres called, the Cubs said they're interested, and it's a possibility.

According to a West Coast source, the Cubs are the Padres' best option for a trade partner if for no other reason than they're not the Dodgers, who are Peavy's first choice, and they're not the Braves, who at this point are saying they won't deal their best prospects.

[RedFlash]

More on the Cubs and Peavy in the Daily Herald:

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=245654

 

The Padres called, the Cubs said they're interested, and it's a possibility.

According to a West Coast source, the Cubs are the Padres' best option for a trade partner if for no other reason than they're not the Dodgers, who are Peavy's first choice, and they're not the Braves, who at this point are saying they won't deal their best prospects.

 

As much as I want to get excited about the possibilty, I have to consider the source. It's Barry Rozner. Now I understand that Hendry plays his cards closest to his chest, and I realize Hendry likes to play himself as the underdog type GM, but let's face it would take ALOT of luck and creativity to get Peavy. And IDK if Hendry has the time to pull something off before the Braves decide they want to go for it and get Peavy.

 

In other words, I can't even muster up even fake optimism for the possibility of Peavy.

[Jehrico]

Phil Rodgers. It's under his "whispers" section but I doubt its more than speculation

 

The Cubs are on the list of teams for which Jake Peavy will waive his no-trade clause. This doesn't look like a fit, but don't be surprised if Jim Hendry tries to put together a package that would include a swap of first basemen, Derrek Lee and Adrian Gonzalez, who is supposedly untouchable.

 

Does he think hes writing an article for a video game audience? Seriously, that might be the most [expletive] trade proposal that has been published...thats quite an accomplishment.

 

I posted this "rumor" under the "Derrek Lee being traded" thread earlier this morning. That thread had discussion about how idiotic Rogers (and Sullivan) are with their "rumors", so I thought it was the appropriate place for this discussion.

 

Gonzalez - 26 yrs old .279/.361/.510 with 36 HRs and 119 RBI making $875,000.

Lee- 33 yrs old .291/.361/.462 with 20 HRs and 90 RBI making $13,250,000.

 

The Cubs would have to add something (Pie?) to Lee just to get Gonzalez. Imagine what they would have to add to the package to get Gonzalez AND Peavy.

Rogers is an idiot.

Considering that they're looking to deal Peavy to cut costs, if we wanted to swap Lee for Gonzalez, we'd probably have to pick up the remainder of his salary just to begin the conversation. I'm doubtful that MLB would even allow the trade to happen at that point.