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[David]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

 

They have Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, 2 guys that a lot of teams would love to get their hands on, especially one about to embark on a full rebuilding phase.

 

Also, Im thinking that the Pads will try to package Peavy and Khalil Green like the Marlins did with Becket and Mike Lowell, in which if a team wants Peavy, they'l have to take Green as well.

[Guest]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

 

They have Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, 2 guys that a lot of teams would love to get their hands on, especially one about to embark on a full rebuilding phase.

 

Also, Im thinking that the Pads will try to package Peavy and Khalil Green like the Marlins did with Becket and Mike Lowell, in which if a team wants Peavy, they'l have to take Green as well.

 

Ian Kennedy isn't worth anyone's time. He's a 5th starter.

[Cubswin11]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

 

They have Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, 2 guys that a lot of teams would love to get their hands on, especially one about to embark on a full rebuilding phase.

 

Also, Im thinking that the Pads will try to package Peavy and Khalil Green like the Marlins did with Becket and Mike Lowell, in which if a team wants Peavy, they'l have to take Green as well.

 

Ian Kennedy isn't worth anyone's time. He's a 5th starter.

 

If I am the Padres and I am looking to rebuild, a package involving Cano, Cabrera, Hughes, and a prospect or two for Peavy, Greene(could play 2B), and a prospect isn't looking like that bad of a trade.

[jersey cubs fan]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

 

They have Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, 2 guys that a lot of teams would love to get their hands on, especially one about to embark on a full rebuilding phase.

 

Also, Im thinking that the Pads will try to package Peavy and Khalil Green like the Marlins did with Becket and Mike Lowell, in which if a team wants Peavy, they'l have to take Green as well.

 

Ian Kennedy isn't worth anyone's time. He's a 5th starter.

 

If I am the Padres and I am looking to rebuild, a package involving Cano, Cabrera, Hughes, and a prospect or two for Peavy, Greene(could play 2B), and a prospect isn't looking like that bad of a trade.

 

Are you seriously that enamored with the overhyped Yankees prospects?

[Guest]

Melky Cabrera is garbage too.

 

Phil Hughes still has enough upside but the Yankees would be selling low.

[Sammy Sofa]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

 

They have Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, 2 guys that a lot of teams would love to get their hands on, especially one about to embark on a full rebuilding phase.

 

Also, Im thinking that the Pads will try to package Peavy and Khalil Green like the Marlins did with Becket and Mike Lowell, in which if a team wants Peavy, they'l have to take Green as well.

 

Ian Kennedy isn't worth anyone's time. He's a 5th starter.

 

If I am the Padres and I am looking to rebuild, a package involving Cano, Cabrera, Hughes, and a prospect or two for Peavy, Greene(could play 2B), and a prospect isn't looking like that bad of a trade.

 

Hughes would be the only one worth a damn.

[BigbadB]

Are you seriously that enamored with the overhyped Yankees prospects?

 

Doesn't matter. It's Kevin Towers who will be evaluating packages for Peavy, which is plenty of cause for concern in San Diego.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think any deal the Cubs could do for Peavy would begin with Marmol and Pie. The Padres might also ask for Samardzija as well.

 

A realistic deal might be Marmol, Pie, Samardzija, and Theriot for Peavy and Greene. Is that too much? I'm a big fan of Theriot, but I'd probably do that deal if it were available. We'd have to add something to the bullpen in the offseason if we make that trade, but a rotation of Peavy, Harden, Zambrano, Lilly, and Marquis would be pretty good.

 

My gut feeling is the Cubs wouldn't want to give up both Marmol and Shark.

[SweetZombieJesus]

couldn't give up shark is the real answer. There's no way he's accepting a trade to any team right now save the white sox.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

couldn't give up shark is the real answer. There's no way he's accepting a trade to any team right now save the white sox.

 

And that is an issue. But would He accept a trade if his choices are start for the Padres or Iowa?

[nilodnayr]

I think any deal the Cubs could do for Peavy would begin with Marmol and Pie. The Padres might also ask for Samardzija as well.

 

A realistic deal might be Marmol, Pie, Samardzija, and Theriot for Peavy and Greene. Is that too much? I'm a big fan of Theriot, but I'd probably do that deal if it were available. We'd have to add something to the bullpen in the offseason if we make that trade, but a rotation of Peavy, Harden, Zambrano, Lilly, and Marquis would be pretty good.

 

My gut feeling is the Cubs wouldn't want to give up both Marmol and Shark.

 

I wouldn't mind trading Marmol (but I think the Cubs definitely do). Although, I think SD is the type of org that realizes that with the team they are going to field, their bullpen isn't going to be that important. Also, I know we are talking fantasy, but Samardzija's NTC means hes not going anywhere.

 

I think Theriots value is going to have the greatest variance depending on who you talk to. His value to SD (and their need for cheap players) is going to be greater than a lot of other clubs. Additionally, his skills play well for the stadium, as opposed to Greene. SD will probably ignore the BA, but Theriot did put up a 340 wOBA (see list of qualifying SSs below), which does show that he put up one of the better offensive years among SSs.

 

Lets say that SD values Theriot a pretty decent amount given his production/cost. Additionally, they could value Rich Hill pretty highly given his risk/reward. I think Venable isn't going to satiate their desire for Pie, so lets throw him in too. Fontenot would be attractive, again for the cost and upside. And Vitters could round out the bunch as the top prospect (Kouz can't play D and they aren't against moving Headley to the OF). I wouldn't mind the video game trade of Theriot, Hill, Pie, Vitters, Fontenot for Peavy, Greene, Giles. I wouldn't mind taking Gerut back either if we could. Its all fantasy, but what the hay.

 

HanRam-389

Reyes-348

Hardy-347

Drew-344

Peralta-342

Guzman-341

Theriot-340

Jeter-340

Escobar-333

Rollins-331

Young-328

OCab-312

Scutaro-312

Tejada-311

Renteria-306

Betancourt-298

Crosby-287

[nilodnayr]

couldn't give up shark is the real answer. There's no way he's accepting a trade to any team right now save the white sox.

 

And that is an issue. But would He accept a trade if his choices are start for the Padres or Iowa?

 

Well, the I-cubs are probably going to be about as good as the Padres next year and in 2010 he'll definitely be on the the Chicago Cubs, so no, I don't think he'd accept the trade.

[Outshined_One]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

 

They have Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, 2 guys that a lot of teams would love to get their hands on, especially one about to embark on a full rebuilding phase.

 

Also, Im thinking that the Pads will try to package Peavy and Khalil Green like the Marlins did with Becket and Mike Lowell, in which if a team wants Peavy, they'l have to take Green as well.

 

Ian Kennedy isn't worth anyone's time. He's a 5th starter.

 

If I am the Padres and I am looking to rebuild, a package involving Cano, Cabrera, Hughes, and a prospect or two for Peavy, Greene(could play 2B), and a prospect isn't looking like that bad of a trade.

 

If that's the case, the Cubs can beat that package. The only worthwhile player in that package is Hughes and, as previously mentioned, the Yankees would be selling low on him.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If Shark is removed from my proposed deal, then this one might work.

 

Marmol, Pie, Theriot, and one of Veal or Atkins for Peavy and Greene.

 

It might be preferable to the Cubs to substitute Marshall for Marmol. I

[Outshined_One]

I have to think the Padres would be looking for something for Peavy along the lines of what the Indians got for Sabathia. Adding Greene to the mix only adds to the players needed to complete it.

 

I'm having difficulty coming up with a comparable package to what the Brewers gave up for CC.

[abuck1220]

i wish the yankees would hurry up and trade cano and melky in one trade to some stupid gm so we wouldn't have to hear anything about them ever again.

[CubinNY]

Why would Samardjiza not want to get traded? Why do people think that a NTC means a player can't be traded?

 

Maybe he wants to be a starter and the Cubs tell him he won't be starting for the Cubs. I don't know I could come up with many reasons why he would agree to a trade.

 

Doesn't a NTC only mean that the GM has to get permission?

[jersey cubs fan]

Why would Samardjiza not want to get traded? Why do people think that a NTC means a player can't be traded?

 

Maybe he wants to be a starter and the Cubs tell him he won't be starting for the Cubs. I don't know I could come up with many reasons why he would agree to a trade.

 

Doesn't a NTC only mean that the GM has to get permission?

 

Generally speaking the NTC is waived when a guy wants out badly or he's offered a carrot. Samardzija hasn't done enough for Hendry to smear his name (Sosa) or to justify offering any more of a carrot. A NTC isn't just a matter of getting permission, it makes trades very difficult, and often forces discounts that players value in trade.

[Rusch33]

I'm not sure I would want to get rid of Marmol with Wood still closing.

[nilodnayr]

I have to think the Padres would be looking for something for Peavy along the lines of what the Indians got for Sabathia. Adding Greene to the mix only adds to the players needed to complete it.

 

I'm having difficulty coming up with a comparable package to what the Brewers gave up for CC.

 

I very much disagree. Look at the Padres and the Indians, they are worlds apart. The Padres are looking to slash payroll, have a terrible minor league system and have many holes. The Indians are looking to keep payroll steady at a decent amount, have a good minor league system, and (despite their 2008 campaign) should be a a playoff contender with just a few holes. The Indians were looking for one excellent prospect that could help in the short term to push them over the edge. They needed quality, not quantity and they got arguably the best power hitter in the minors. What would Matt LaPorta do for the Padres? Allow them to be hot on the heals of the Giants for 4th in the NL West? Like I said earlier, they should be looking for a Danny Haren-eque deal and mimic what Oakland has done. One very good prospect and a handful of other interesting prospects that could pan out. They have many holes to fill and will be looking for quality AND quantity (obviously the more of the latter means less of the former). I'm not saying that the Padres should be looking to get a lot of AAAA players, but one Matt LaPorta isn't going to do jack for them.

 

I also think at this point Greene (with his contract) has neutral value at best, and probably negative value on the trade market.

[nilodnayr]

Why would Samardjiza not want to get traded? Why do people think that a NTC means a player can't be traded?

 

Maybe he wants to be a starter and the Cubs tell him he won't be starting for the Cubs. I don't know I could come up with many reasons why he would agree to a trade.

 

Doesn't a NTC only mean that the GM has to get permission?

 

Generally speaking the NTC is waived when a guy wants out badly or he's offered a carrot. Samardzija hasn't done enough for Hendry to smear his name (Sosa) or to justify offering any more of a carrot. A NTC isn't just a matter of getting permission, it makes trades very difficult, and often forces discounts that players value in trade.

 

I agree, NTCs hold different weight for different players in different situations. Many times players have NTCs added to their contract so if they are traded they can force the tradee to give them a sweetener, not necessarily to block a trade. But obviously, Shark wanted a NTC because he wanted to be in Chicago, otherwise he probably would have played football. In the general sense of NTCs it doesn't mean a trade can't happen, but in the specific sense here, I think it does.

[BigbadB]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

 

They have Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, 2 guys that a lot of teams would love to get their hands on, especially one about to embark on a full rebuilding phase.

 

Also, Im thinking that the Pads will try to package Peavy and Khalil Green like the Marlins did with Becket and Mike Lowell, in which if a team wants Peavy, they'l have to take Green as well.

 

Ian Kennedy isn't worth anyone's time. He's a 5th starter.

 

If I am the Padres and I am looking to rebuild, a package involving Cano, Cabrera, Hughes, and a prospect or two for Peavy, Greene(could play 2B), and a prospect isn't looking like that bad of a trade.

 

If that's the case, the Cubs can beat that package. The only worthwhile player in that package is Hughes and, as previously mentioned, the Yankees would be selling low on him.

 

If the Yankees could land Peavy with a package involving Hughes, I don't think you could call it selling low.

[RedFlash]

I'm not sure I would want to get rid of Marmol with Wood still closing.

 

Same here. Not because he is untouchable or anything, but if the Cubs view him as the successor to Wood as closer, I much rather keep him now and let Wood walk. And I sure as heck would not want to trade both Marmol and Shark in the same package unless it was for a bonafid everyday superstar player.

[Exile on Waveland]

Why would Samardjiza not want to get traded?

 

He's from Northwestern Indiana and grew up a Cubs fan. I pretty much guarantee he's not accepting a trade to the Padres.