Jake Peavy: Available.

[CubinNY]

Why would Samardjiza not want to get traded?

 

He's from Northwestern Indiana and grew up a Cubs fan. I pretty much guarantee he's not accepting a trade to the Padres.

I'm pretty sure he was a White Sox fan. But baseball is a business. I'm a Cubs fan if I could get more money playing for another team you bet your ass I'm gone.

 

Nevertheless, I basically understand what people are saying here.

[SouthSideRyan]

Why would Samardjiza not want to get traded?

 

He's from Northwestern Indiana and grew up a Cubs fan. I pretty much guarantee he's not accepting a trade to the Padres.

I'm pretty sure he was a White Sox fan. But baseball is a business. I'm a Cubs fan if I could get more money playing for another team you bet your ass I'm gone.

 

Nevertheless, I basically understand what people are saying here.

 

A NTC is different for a 34 year old veteran with 1 year left on his contract looking for an extension compared to a rookie for whom an extension isn't happening no matter how much leverage you have.

[Jehrico]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

 

They have Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, 2 guys that a lot of teams would love to get their hands on, especially one about to embark on a full rebuilding phase.

 

Also, Im thinking that the Pads will try to package Peavy and Khalil Green like the Marlins did with Becket and Mike Lowell, in which if a team wants Peavy, they'l have to take Green as well.

Greene as a throw in for Peavy? Where do I sign up? I'd be all about buying low on Greene. If they're looking to dump him after a bad year, they're essentially giving up on him and selling low. I'm all about buying low on him. I bet they'd be interested in Theriot to replace him. He's cheap, has a decent amount of time until his FA years come up, doesn't project to be too terribly expensive, and is one of those "gritty" guys that the fans love. If we can't put something worthwhile together for Peavy, and they're trying to use Peavy to dump Greene, then heck, I say offer Theriot for Greene straight up. That said, I didn't think they were that down on him that they'd be looking to dump him in a package deal like that.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Since when do the Yankees have much to offer in trades?

 

Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano aren't assets. Did their farm system suddenly get good without me noticing or something?

 

They have Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, 2 guys that a lot of teams would love to get their hands on, especially one about to embark on a full rebuilding phase.

 

Also, Im thinking that the Pads will try to package Peavy and Khalil Green like the Marlins did with Becket and Mike Lowell, in which if a team wants Peavy, they'l have to take Green as well.

Greene as a throw in for Peavy? Where do I sign up? I'd be all about buying low on Greene. If they're looking to dump him after a bad year, they're essentially giving up on him and selling low. I'm all about buying low on him. I bet they'd be interested in Theriot to replace him. He's cheap, has a decent amount of time until his FA years come up, doesn't project to be too terribly expensive, and is one of those "gritty" guys that the fans love. If we can't put something worthwhile together for Peavy, and they're trying to use Peavy to dump Greene, then heck, I say offer Theriot for Greene straight up. That said, I didn't think they were that down on him that they'd be looking to dump him in a package deal like that.

 

They strike me as a team trying to rebuild completely. I dont see them contending any time soon, so they mat just try to get as many top prospects as they can. I wouldnt be surprised if they try to move Adrian Gonzalez, whose signed through 2010 as well. Not in a package deal with Peavy, unless it was one hell of a package, but they could probably get a nice return for him as well.

[Little Slide Rooter]

What if we did offer up Vitters, Marshall, Ceda or Ascanio, Pie or Colvin, and Theriot or Cedeno for Peavy and Greene? Maybe throw in another pitching quasi prospect like Veal, Hart, or Atkins.Would the Padres laugh us out of town? Doesnt sound like a bad deal to me. Maybe theyd even kick us Brian Giles, who would be a hell of a throw in, but is essentially worthless to a team whose about to start a major rebuilding phase.

[ctcf]

Lo siento if this is a repost but per rotoworld:

Jake Peavy told reporters at the end of the season that he would not accept a trade to the AL.

When asked about his trade stance again Tuesday in the midst of reports that he's on the block Peavy responded that he didn't "want to get into any speculation." His preference is important given the full no-trade clause included in his recent contract extension. "Jake has a strong preference to stay in the National League," agent Barry Axelrod said. Alexrod added that "Jake would only approve a trade to a team with a solid chance of winning," specifically mentioning Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis as cities that fit "his and his family's lifestyle."

 

source article: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/oct/14/padres-peavy1420020/?padres

 

Hmmmm.

[BigbadB]

Why would Samardjiza not want to get traded?

 

He's from Northwestern Indiana and grew up a Cubs fan. I pretty much guarantee he's not accepting a trade to the Padres.

I'm pretty sure he was a White Sox fan. But baseball is a business. I'm a Cubs fan if I could get more money playing for another team you bet your ass I'm gone.

 

Nevertheless, I basically understand what people are saying here.

 

Agreed on principle. People will typically go where the money is. But, there is no money in San Diego, so I can't see Samardjiza waiving his NTC to go there.

 

Now, because Petco tends to depress overall pitching stats, a guy could go there to extend/advance their career, because a lot of GM's tend to ignore valuable information like park effects.

 

Chris Young will be a perfect example when he departs San Diego. He's going to get big money from someone to be a below average starter.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Lo siento if this is a repost but per rotoworld:

Jake Peavy told reporters at the end of the season that he would not accept a trade to the AL.

When asked about his trade stance again Tuesday in the midst of reports that he's on the block Peavy responded that he didn't "want to get into any speculation." His preference is important given the full no-trade clause included in his recent contract extension. "Jake has a strong preference to stay in the National League," agent Barry Axelrod said. Alexrod added that "Jake would only approve a trade to a team with a solid chance of winning," specifically mentioning Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis as cities that fit "his and his family's lifestyle."

 

source article: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/oct/14/padres-peavy1420020/?padres

 

Hmmmm.

 

The last places we want him are Houston and St. Louis. The Dodgers couldn easily put together a deal for him. Hopefully Hendry can go all out and pull another rabbit out of his hat. Hes dont it before.

[nilodnayr]

Lo siento if this is a repost but per rotoworld:

Jake Peavy told reporters at the end of the season that he would not accept a trade to the AL.

When asked about his trade stance again Tuesday in the midst of reports that he's on the block Peavy responded that he didn't "want to get into any speculation." His preference is important given the full no-trade clause included in his recent contract extension. "Jake has a strong preference to stay in the National League," agent Barry Axelrod said. Alexrod added that "Jake would only approve a trade to a team with a solid chance of winning," specifically mentioning Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis as cities that fit "his and his family's lifestyle."

 

source article: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/oct/14/padres-peavy1420020/?padres

 

Hmmmm.

 

The last places we want him are Houston and St. Louis. The Dodgers couldn easily put together a deal for him. Hopefully Hendry can go all out and pull another rabbit out of his hat. Hes dont it before.

 

Houston has 0% chance of having the pieces to get him. St. Louis on the other hand does, but they'd have to give up Rasmus.

[Post Count Padder]

Lo siento if this is a repost but per rotoworld:

Jake Peavy told reporters at the end of the season that he would not accept a trade to the AL.

When asked about his trade stance again Tuesday in the midst of reports that he's on the block Peavy responded that he didn't "want to get into any speculation." His preference is important given the full no-trade clause included in his recent contract extension. "Jake has a strong preference to stay in the National League," agent Barry Axelrod said. Alexrod added that "Jake would only approve a trade to a team with a solid chance of winning," specifically mentioning Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis as cities that fit "his and his family's lifestyle."

 

source article: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/oct/14/padres-peavy1420020/?padres

 

Hmmmm.

I like the sound of that.

[Clem Fandango]

Lo siento if this is a repost but per rotoworld:

Jake Peavy told reporters at the end of the season that he would not accept a trade to the AL.

When asked about his trade stance again Tuesday in the midst of reports that he's on the block Peavy responded that he didn't "want to get into any speculation." His preference is important given the full no-trade clause included in his recent contract extension. "Jake has a strong preference to stay in the National League," agent Barry Axelrod said. Alexrod added that "Jake would only approve a trade to a team with a solid chance of winning," specifically mentioning Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis as cities that fit "his and his family's lifestyle."

 

source article: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/oct/14/padres-peavy1420020/?padres

 

Hmmmm.

I like the sound of that.

 

+1. Who would it take though?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Heres my ludicris trade preposal:

 

Cubs get

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

Brian Giles

Heath Bell

 

Pads get

Josh Vitters

Felix Pie

Wellington Castillo

Ronny Cedeno

Sean Marshall

Juan Ascanio or Jose Ceda

Donnie Veal

Kevin Hart

 

Cubs off season shopping complete.

[RedFlash]

Heres my ludicris trade preposal:

 

Cubs get

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

 

Pads get

Josh Vitters

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Jose Ceda

 

 

Cubs off season shopping complete.

 

Or something similar could at least get the Padres to the table.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Heres my ludicris trade preposal:

 

Cubs get

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

 

Pads get

Josh Vitters

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Jose Ceda

 

 

Cubs off season shopping complete.

 

Or something similar could at least get the Padres to the table.

 

It would be nice to work Giles into the deal. Id rather him than Greene. Hes a solid lefty bat, and he could play right and have Johnson and Fukudome platoon in center. I dont think it would be to hard to pry him away from the Pads. The question is, would he waive his NTC to come here? I remember him once saying, regarding the CUbs that it must be nice for every game to be a home game, talking about Cubs fans being at every park, so maybe he would like to play for us.

 

The again, Im now not so sure how much of a fire sale the Pads plan, as they reportedly intend on re signing Trevor Hoffman.

[nilodnayr]

Heres my ludicris trade preposal:

 

Cubs get

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

 

Pads get

Josh Vitters

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Jose Ceda

 

 

Cubs off season shopping complete.

 

Or something similar could at least get the Padres to the table.

 

Thats lacking a major arm from the Cubs. If you add Rich Hill (and they value him decently), that might get you to the table. I also think they might like Theriot over Cedeno and would probably ask for Fontenot as well (since Antonelli sucks).

[Jehrico]

Heres my ludicris trade preposal:

 

Cubs get

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

Brian Giles

Heath Bell

 

Pads get

Josh Vitters

Felix Pie

Wellington Castillo

Ronny Cedeno

Sean Marshall

Juan Ascanio or Jose Ceda

Donnie Veal

Kevin Hart

 

Cubs off season shopping complete.

 

Giles has repeatedly stated and proven that he won't play for anyone other than a west coast team. He blocked the trade to Boston just a couple of months ago. Everyone knows there is a 0% chance of him ever coming here. I'm all for coming up with crazy trade ideas, but there's a difference between crazy ideas and proposals that we know 100% absolutely for sure won't happen. Let's just stop all of the talk about Giles right here and now.

[Derwood]

I won't dismiss this as a possibility after Jimbo landed Harden (which I thought was a complete pipe dream in June)

[Little Slide Rooter]

Heres my ludicris trade preposal:

 

Cubs get

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

 

Pads get

Josh Vitters

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Jose Ceda

 

 

Cubs off season shopping complete.

 

Or something similar could at least get the Padres to the table.

 

Thats lacking a major arm from the Cubs. If you add Rich Hill (and they value him decently), that might get you to the table. I also think they might like Theriot over Cedeno and would probably ask for Fontenot as well (since Antonelli sucks).

 

Im thinking that at this point in time, Sean Marshall has more trade value than Hill. Id throw him in a heartbeat.

 

As for Giles to hell with him. If he has no interest in winning, enjoy the Padres. I cant see the Dodgers or Angels having much interest in him.

[sneakypower]

list of Padres players more than 50% of NSBB knows the name of:

 

Peavy

Khalil Greene

...

[Little Slide Rooter]

list of Padres players more than 50% of NSBB knows the name of:

 

Peavy

Khalil Greene

...

 

Adrian Gonzalez

Mark Prior

Trevor Hoffman

our old boy Jody Gerut

[Mephistopheles]

khalils a great buy low candidate you know. id love to get peavy and khalil in a package. ive stayed out of this discussion because we dont have the assets to make this deal.

 

well we do, but we just wont trade soto

[Mephistopheles]

Lo siento if this is a repost but per rotoworld:

Jake Peavy told reporters at the end of the season that he would not accept a trade to the AL.

When asked about his trade stance again Tuesday in the midst of reports that he's on the block Peavy responded that he didn't "want to get into any speculation." His preference is important given the full no-trade clause included in his recent contract extension. "Jake has a strong preference to stay in the National League," agent Barry Axelrod said. Alexrod added that "Jake would only approve a trade to a team with a solid chance of winning," specifically mentioning Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis as cities that fit "his and his family's lifestyle."

 

source article: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/oct/14/padres-peavy1420020/?padres

 

Hmmmm.

 

The last places we want him are Houston and St. Louis. The Dodgers couldn easily put together a deal for him. Hopefully Hendry can go all out and pull another rabbit out of his hat. Hes dont it before.

 

Houston has 0% chance of having the pieces to get him. St. Louis on the other hand does, but they'd have to give up Rasmus.

 

Pence for him would get it done. They would consider Pence for him.

[nilodnayr]

Lo siento if this is a repost but per rotoworld:

Jake Peavy told reporters at the end of the season that he would not accept a trade to the AL.

When asked about his trade stance again Tuesday in the midst of reports that he's on the block Peavy responded that he didn't "want to get into any speculation." His preference is important given the full no-trade clause included in his recent contract extension. "Jake has a strong preference to stay in the National League," agent Barry Axelrod said. Alexrod added that "Jake would only approve a trade to a team with a solid chance of winning," specifically mentioning Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis as cities that fit "his and his family's lifestyle."

 

source article: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/oct/14/padres-peavy1420020/?padres

 

Hmmmm.

 

The last places we want him are Houston and St. Louis. The Dodgers couldn easily put together a deal for him. Hopefully Hendry can go all out and pull another rabbit out of his hat. Hes dont it before.

 

Houston has 0% chance of having the pieces to get him. St. Louis on the other hand does, but they'd have to give up Rasmus.

 

Pence for him would get it done. They would consider Pence for him.

 

I guess thats a possibility, but like I've said earlier, I think SD would be looking for more of a Danny Haren package than a CC Sabathia package. They have a lot of spots they need filled. Hunter Pence for the next 4 years isn't going to help them any more than Jake Peavy will. They need quality AND quantity and should be willing to sacrifice a little of the former to get more of the latter.

[RedFlash]

Heres my ludicris trade preposal:

 

Cubs get

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

 

Pads get

Josh Vitters

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Jose Ceda

 

 

Cubs off season shopping complete.

 

Or something similar could at least get the Padres to the table.

 

Thats lacking a major arm from the Cubs. If you add Rich Hill (and they value him decently), that might get you to the table. I also think they might like Theriot over Cedeno and would probably ask for Fontenot as well (since Antonelli sucks).

 

Maybe but atleast it would give the Cubs/Padres a jumping off point. You don't offer the moon at the beginning of the negotiations.

[David]

Is there some other Pence other than Hunter in the Astros system? Am I missing some obvious sarcastic joke?

 

I thought Meph was being sarcastic, but then nilo followed with a serious response and now I'm very confused.