Cubs to have post-season ticket lottery

[UMFan83]

first of all, "true fans"....LOL

 

secondly, no person is more "deserving" of tickets than another. welcome to capitalism, where the fattest wallet always wins

 

But that doesn't matter to the Cubs because they set their ticket prices and are going to sell out regardless. They explained their decision as a way to be "fair" to fans and if you define fans as anyone who is willing to go to a game at Wrigley then sure its fair. But it ain't fair to those of us that bleed the Cubs.

 

If you really bled the Cubs, you'd have season tickets and it wouldn't be a problem.

 

Have you seen the season ticket waiting list? I have, because I'm on it.

[David]

Couldn't you just work that day (or maybe it's two days for some, whatever) and maybe make enough to buy the tickets on the secondary market...

[Warren Brusstar]

first of all, "true fans"....LOL

 

secondly, no person is more "deserving" of tickets than another. welcome to capitalism, where the fattest wallet always wins

 

But that doesn't matter to the Cubs because they set their ticket prices and are going to sell out regardless. They explained their decision as a way to be "fair" to fans and if you define fans as anyone who is willing to go to a game at Wrigley then sure its fair. But it ain't fair to those of us that bleed the Cubs.

 

 

Buy season tickets.

[UMFan83]

first of all, "true fans"....LOL

 

secondly, no person is more "deserving" of tickets than another. welcome to capitalism, where the fattest wallet always wins

 

But that doesn't matter to the Cubs because they set their ticket prices and are going to sell out regardless. They explained their decision as a way to be "fair" to fans and if you define fans as anyone who is willing to go to a game at Wrigley then sure its fair. But it ain't fair to those of us that bleed the Cubs.

 

 

Buy season tickets.

 

I will when I'm offered the opportunity to purchase them

[David]

I signed up for the season ticket list like 5-6 years ago in hopes that I'd get called upon at a point in my life where I'd be able to afford them...

 

I checked like a year ago and I think I moved up 3 spots.

[UMFan83]

Couldn't you just work that day (or maybe it's two days for some, whatever) and maybe make enough to buy the tickets on the secondary market...

 

Well people work for other reasons than disposable income.

[jersey cubs fan]

first of all, "true fans"....LOL

 

secondly, no person is more "deserving" of tickets than another. welcome to capitalism, where the fattest wallet always wins

 

But that doesn't matter to the Cubs because they set their ticket prices and are going to sell out regardless. They explained their decision as a way to be "fair" to fans and if you define fans as anyone who is willing to go to a game at Wrigley then sure its fair. But it ain't fair to those of us that bleed the Cubs.

 

What a bunch of nonsense.

 

Care to explain other than a short remark

 

I hate the "true fans" story. And I don't see how it's any less fair to Cubs fans. There are millions of Cubs fans who want to go, there is no perfect way to distribute. You think it should be about devoting a day to the VWR, others think those who want it most will pay the most. Time is money. If people really want to go, they can. But not everybody will.

[GhostRunner]

I seems pretty clear to me that the folks who are miffed about this change are upset solely due to the fact that the Cubs finally wised up to the VWR scamming and replaced it.

 

The reason that it was "easy" to get post-season tickets last year was because of the multiple-windows trick. I have to disagree that the trick is common knowledge, because it if was, then the bandwagoners/scalpers/brokers would be doing the exact same thing, which would cancel out the true fan's multiple windows and just wind up tipping the scales back into balance. It would have been the same as a lottery, more or less. I can't believe that anyone would have gotten "easy" tickets if the VWR exploit was very well-known and used by everyone.

 

The only way to ensure that the true fans get tickets would be for the Cubs to pass out Cubs IQ tests and give priority to the highest scorers. Regardless of the system in place, Wrigley Field will still be overrun with politicians, celebs, baseball-know-nothings, wealthy bandwagoners, and socialites. The true fans are ALWAYS a minority at any post-season sporting event.

 

The lottery is fair. It puts everyone on the same plane - die-hards, brokers, scalpers, trixies, d-bags, etc. Sure, someone will find a way to exploit this, too, but it won't be as widespread as the VWR trick.

 

What if I'm a die-hard Cubs fan (which I am) and I enter the lottery, but I just sell the tickets for more than face if I do get picked? Is that any different than the scalpers? The tickets are a commodity, so they'll get traded as such. The only way I can see to avoid it would be the hand-picking scenario I described above.

[SouthSideRyan]

first of all, "true fans"....LOL

 

secondly, no person is more "deserving" of tickets than another. welcome to capitalism, where the fattest wallet always wins

 

But that doesn't matter to the Cubs because they set their ticket prices and are going to sell out regardless. They explained their decision as a way to be "fair" to fans and if you define fans as anyone who is willing to go to a game at Wrigley then sure its fair. But it ain't fair to those of us that bleed the Cubs.

 

If you really bled the Cubs, you'd have season tickets and it wouldn't be a problem.

 

Have you seen the season ticket waiting list? I have, because I'm on it.

 

I moved up 3 spots this offseason!

[Twiggy]

lol i thought I read some place that the season ticket list moved up 3-5 spots since last season. Two or three people that had tickets died.... It's going to be a very long time. I'm like 10,000 or so on the list.

[Gmoney08]

So does anyone know if multiple people from the same address can fill out applications. The rules say the same person cannot have multiple app's so I assume if there is multiple 18 year olds with credit cards they can both fill out applications?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

first of all, "true fans"....LOL

 

secondly, no person is more "deserving" of tickets than another. welcome to capitalism, where the fattest wallet always wins

 

But that doesn't matter to the Cubs because they set their ticket prices and are going to sell out regardless. They explained their decision as a way to be "fair" to fans and if you define fans as anyone who is willing to go to a game at Wrigley then sure its fair. But it ain't fair to those of us that bleed the Cubs.

 

 

Buy season tickets.

 

I will when I'm offered the opportunity to purchase them

 

Buy them from someone who already has them. If you come up with enough money, someone will sell.

 

If you were a true fan, this wouldn't be a problem.

[Yeti]

or some soccer mom in Elk Grove who couldnt pick Derrek Lee out of a lineup of Asians.

=D>

[nilodnayr]

first of all, "true fans"....LOL

 

secondly, no person is more "deserving" of tickets than another. welcome to capitalism, where the fattest wallet always wins

 

But that doesn't matter to the Cubs because they set their ticket prices and are going to sell out regardless. They explained their decision as a way to be "fair" to fans and if you define fans as anyone who is willing to go to a game at Wrigley then sure its fair. But it ain't fair to those of us that bleed the Cubs.

 

 

Buy season tickets.

 

I will when I'm offered the opportunity to purchase them

 

Buy them from someone who already has them. If you come up with enough money, someone will sell.

 

If you were a true fan, this wouldn't be a problem.

 

If you can't discern the difference between taking a day off of work to do the VWR and shelling out well into 5 figures, then I don't know what to tell you.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If you can't discern the difference between taking a day off of work to do the VWR and shelling out well into 5 figures, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

I can discern the convenience that the arbitrary line between "true fan" and "not a true fan" is between what the poster is willing and not willing to do.

[Derwood]

If you can't discern the difference between taking a day off of work to do the VWR and shelling out well into 5 figures, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

I can discern the convenience that the arbitrary line between "true fan" and "not a true fan" is between what the poster is willing and not willing to do.

 

no no no. True fan = anyone who can't get tickets, Not True Fan = anyone else.

[David]

Couldn't you just work that day (or maybe it's two days for some, whatever) and maybe make enough to buy the tickets on the secondary market...

 

Well people work for other reasons than disposable income.

 

But you're talking about taking a day off and that real fans should take a day off...

 

So only real fans who have extra vacation or sick days should be able to go to the playoffs?

[nilodnayr]

I seems pretty clear to me that the folks who are miffed about this change are upset solely due to the fact that the Cubs finally wised up to the VWR scamming and replaced it.

 

The reason that it was "easy" to get post-season tickets last year was because of the multiple-windows trick. I have to disagree that the trick is common knowledge, because it if was, then the bandwagoners/scalpers/brokers would be doing the exact same thing, which would cancel out the true fan's multiple windows and just wind up tipping the scales back into balance. It would have been the same as a lottery, more or less. I can't believe that anyone would have gotten "easy" tickets if the VWR exploit was very well-known and used by everyone.

 

The only way to ensure that the true fans get tickets would be for the Cubs to pass out Cubs IQ tests and give priority to the highest scorers. Regardless of the system in place, Wrigley Field will still be overrun with politicians, celebs, baseball-know-nothings, wealthy bandwagoners, and socialites. The true fans are ALWAYS a minority at any post-season sporting event.

 

The lottery is fair. It puts everyone on the same plane - die-hards, brokers, scalpers, trixies, d-bags, etc. Sure, someone will find a way to exploit this, too, but it won't be as widespread as the VWR trick.

 

What if I'm a die-hard Cubs fan (which I am) and I enter the lottery, but I just sell the tickets for more than face if I do get picked? Is that any different than the scalpers? The tickets are a commodity, so they'll get traded as such. The only way I can see to avoid it would be the hand-picking scenario I described above.

 

If you don't think the brokers and scalpers know the VWR trick then you are the most naive person in the world.

 

I take off the day of work when the regular season tickets go on sale and coordinate with a half dozen or so friends to get tickets. We pretty much get tickets to most of the games we want to go to. Am I busting my balls hardcore to get tickets? Not really, but I do take the time to take the day off and coordinate schedules and keep in constant communication to make sure people are going after the right games and we get the right amount of tickets, etc. After I'm done with that I usually come here and get tickets for others.

 

I did the same thing for the playoff tickets last year and even with the VWR, my friends and I only got tickets to one game in the NLDS and one in the NLCS, unfortunately the Cubs never made it to either one of those games. Obviously, demand is much much higher and supply is much much lower so even if you do take the time to do the VWR, you sure aren't guaranteed to see the Cubs in October. BUT, with the VWR, if you do work relatively hard and are committed, you are able to significantly increase your changes.

 

I'm sorry, but my notion of fair is that if you work for something you should get rewarded, if you don't work for something you shouldn't get rewarded. Excuse me for not being a communist. And thats basically what the lottery is, communism.

[UMFan83]

Couldn't you just work that day (or maybe it's two days for some, whatever) and maybe make enough to buy the tickets on the secondary market...

 

Well people work for other reasons than disposable income.

 

But you're talking about taking a day off and that real fans should take a day off...

 

So only real fans who have extra vacation or sick days should be able to go to the playoffs?

 

Well the Cubs have been good since April...if you wanted playoff tickets you shouldn't have taken that 2 week vacation to Hawaii!

[SouthSideRyan]

Couldn't you just work that day (or maybe it's two days for some, whatever) and maybe make enough to buy the tickets on the secondary market...

 

Well people work for other reasons than disposable income.

 

But you're talking about taking a day off and that real fans should take a day off...

 

So only real fans who have extra vacation or sick days should be able to go to the playoffs?

 

Well the Cubs have been good since April...if you wanted playoff tickets you shouldn't have taken that 2 week vacation to Hawaii!

 

The price spent on Hawaii could probably pay for some stubhub tickets.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Couldn't you just work that day (or maybe it's two days for some, whatever) and maybe make enough to buy the tickets on the secondary market...

 

Well people work for other reasons than disposable income.

 

But you're talking about taking a day off and that real fans should take a day off...

 

So only real fans who have extra vacation or sick days should be able to go to the playoffs?

 

Well the Cubs have been good since April...if you wanted playoff tickets you shouldn't have taken that 2 week vacation to Hawaii!

 

So true fans wait until they see if the Cubs are good or not before planning for the playoffs? Sounds sketchy...

[nilodnayr]

If you can't discern the difference between taking a day off of work to do the VWR and shelling out well into 5 figures, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

I can discern the convenience that the arbitrary line between "true fan" and "not a true fan" is between what the poster is willing and not willing to do.

 

no no no. True fan = anyone who can't get tickets, Not True Fan = anyone else.

 

ohh hahaha, snarky remarks about true fans and not true fans...

 

Listen, I'm not judging anyone about being a true fan or not a true fan. I am just saying that those who work harder to get something should have a better chance of getting it.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

If you can't discern the difference between taking a day off of work to do the VWR and shelling out well into 5 figures, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

I can discern the convenience that the arbitrary line between "true fan" and "not a true fan" is between what the poster is willing and not willing to do.

 

no no no. True fan = anyone who can't get tickets, Not True Fan = anyone else.

 

ohh hahaha, snarky remarks about true fans and not true fans...

 

Listen, I'm not judging anyone about being a true fan or not a true fan. I am just saying that those who work harder to get something should have a better chance of getting it.

 

And what's the agreed-upon standard for how we measure who worked hardest in this country?

 

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Edited September 4, 2008 by Hairyducked Idiot

[Derwood]

If you can't discern the difference between taking a day off of work to do the VWR and shelling out well into 5 figures, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

I can discern the convenience that the arbitrary line between "true fan" and "not a true fan" is between what the poster is willing and not willing to do.

 

no no no. True fan = anyone who can't get tickets, Not True Fan = anyone else.

 

ohh hahaha, snarky remarks about true fans and not true fans...

 

Listen, I'm not judging anyone about being a true fan or not a true fan. I am just saying that those who work harder to get something should have a better chance of getting it.

 

UPDATE: Sitting at a computer with 100 open VWR windows =/= "work"

[David]

How about this... take a day off and work some crazy high paying odd jobs to buy tickets on StubHub... :mrgreen:

 

Then we'll see who REALLY wants to go.