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[SouthSideRyan]

Pujols will end the year with an OPS over 1.100 and will probably not win the MVP unless he hits .370.

 

Ehhh, I dunno about that, there's not a lot of viable candidates from playoff teams this year, so I could see Pujols getting it. Who are the candidates that stand a chance on the playoff teams??

 

Cubs: Soto or Ramirez I guess are the only 2 I've heard talked about. I guess Soto will be the one who gets the most votes because people are hyping him for the way the pitching staff has performed. That said, he doesn't have the aura that Ichiro did his rookie year to give him enough votes to get the award, nor does he have out of this world #s to give voters no choice

 

Brewers: Braun. I can't believe he'd get the support with his Dunn-like defense out there. Plus he's still too much of a new face to go with his defense in LF along with memories of his "defense" at 3B. I'm sure some idiots will give Sabathia votes, but it won't be nearly enough(unlike the Cy Young race, which he'll win after Nedley gets him 10 CGs.

 

D-Backs: I don't even know Webb I guess? But he really wet the bed tonight, I don't think the D-Backs have a candidate that even the braindeads could support.

 

Dodgers: Manny with the Sabathia-esque vote, but this only works if the Dodgers make the playoffs obviously. Cause if the Dodgers lose a 1 game playoff rather than win it, then clearly Manny wasn't close to being an MVP. Win that game on an Angel Berroa walk-off and Manny has a chance.

 

Mets: Wright maybe? He seems to have been thrown under the bus along with Beltran and Reyes(though not quite to that extent of those 2....hmmmm what's different about him?)

 

Phillies: Utley. This is the only one I can really see happening. Again though, they need to make the playoffs for him to take it. If the Phillies get down like 3 games at any point, only to have the Mets flop down the stretch again, the award is his. Otherwise, I have a hard time seeing it not go to Pujols.

[Jehrico]

Mike Fontenot has a higher slugging % than Derrek Lee, Aramis Ramirez, Ryan Howard, Adam Dunn, Grady Sizemore, Miguel Cabrera, Jim Thome, Prince Fielder, Jason Giambi, David Wright, Vladimir Guerrero, Jason Bay, Carlos Beltran, and Troy Glaus.

Wow...good find!

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Aubrey Huff is having a career year wth a .945 OPS

[sneakypower]

obviously we all know how useless R, RBI are as stats

 

but it's still hard to understand how a guy with a line of .364/.468/.643 is languishing at 14th & 12th in the NL for runs and RBI, respectively

 

the easy answer would be bad lineup, but he's got Ludwick, Glaus, Ankiel and Schumaker surrounding him in the lineup; hardly a motley crew of talent

[ISUCubsFan]

Zero Cubs are in the top 30 in the majors in offensive VORP, but 11 are in the top 120, including the entire starting lineup, both halves of the CF platoon and Carlos Zambrano.

 

Along these lines, as of today Zambrano has a higher offensive VORP than anyone on the A's roster (Z=18.0, Cust=17.8).

[Jehrico]

obviously we all know how useless R, RBI are as stats

 

but it's still hard to understand how a guy with a line of .364/.468/.643 is languishing at 14th & 12th in the NL for runs and RBI, respectively

 

the easy answer would be bad lineup, but he's got Ludwick, Glaus, Ankiel and Schumaker surrounding him in the lineup; hardly a motley crew of talent

If you would have quoted that lineup 6 months ago, we would have all said "there's your answer."

[TruffleShuffle]

but it's still hard to understand how a guy with a line of .364/.468/.643 is languishing at 14th & 12th in the NL for runs and RBI, respectively

 

clearly he is just not clutch.

 

but seriously, that is surprising. he has been pitched around a LOT with RISP, but only 84 runs is not what i would have expected.

[big_shooter17]

I heard mention of Delgado being an MVP candidate and if the Mets make the playoffs, he has to be the guy. I usually don't agree with the east coast bias on ESPN, but I had already started to think a little about his name before hearing them, so instead of being manipulated by their New York/Boston rhetoric, I was simply reassured of a previously held view. He has had a solid year overall and now while it has mattered, he has stepped it up and put his team in a position to go to the postseason. I don't know if there will be enough support for him to win, but right now my vote would go to Delgado. He is the most valuable player to his team. This is not to say that he is having the best season, that would have to go to someone like Pujols.

[SouthSideRyan]

Delgado's like the 5th best player on the Mets.

[RedFlash]

Delgado's like the 5th best player on the Mets.

 

I agree. There is no clear cut leader for the MVP---unless you walk about that Card 1st baseman. Delgado will likely get some votes, but prolly won't finish higher then 6-10 on the ballot. I'm thinking guys like Utley/Pujols/ARam/Berkman/C. Jones/Fielder and/or Braun will eventually end up in front of Delgado for MVP.

 

 

*I know what people will say about Chipper Jones, but the early season chase for .400 likely bought him some votes. Not many, but some.

**I think ARam will get some serious MVP votes, because he has been the best player on the best team in baseball.

[big_shooter17]

Delgado's like the 5th best player on the Mets.

 

On July 1, the Mets were 3.5 back and a game under .500. Since then, Delgado has hit just over .300 with 17 home runs and 50 rbi. Over that time, Wright has 12 home runs and 39 rbi although his ba has been slightly better. Beltran's numbers have been similar to Wright's over this stretch. There is no doubting that there are more talented players on the Mets than Delgado, but he has been very important in their climb to the top of the division. The best player need not be the most valuable.

[SouthSideRyan]

Delgado's like the 5th best player on the Mets.

 

On July 1, the Mets were 3.5 back and a game under .500. Since then, Delgado has hit just over .300 with 17 home runs and 50 rbi. Over that time, Wright has 12 home runs and 39 rbi although his ba has been slightly better. Beltran's numbers have been similar to Wright's over this stretch. There is no doubting that there are more talented players on the Mets than Delgado, but he has been very important in their climb to the top of the division. The best player need not be the most valuable.

 

Why should Delgado's pre-7/1 #s not come into play? His playing like crap the first couple months of the season is a big reason the Mets were in a hole to begin with. Wright, Reyes, and Beltran all play better defense at more premium positions, while putting up better #s on the year.

[big_shooter17]

Delgado's like the 5th best player on the Mets.

 

On July 1, the Mets were 3.5 back and a game under .500. Since then, Delgado has hit just over .300 with 17 home runs and 50 rbi. Over that time, Wright has 12 home runs and 39 rbi although his ba has been slightly better. Beltran's numbers have been similar to Wright's over this stretch. There is no doubting that there are more talented players on the Mets than Delgado, but he has been very important in their climb to the top of the division. The best player need not be the most valuable.

 

Why should Delgado's pre-7/1 #s not come into play? His playing like crap the first couple months of the season is a big reason the Mets were in a hole to begin with. Wright, Reyes, and Beltran all play better defense at more premium positions, while putting up better #s on the year.

 

Even with that slow start, if Delgado keeps up this pace, he will lead the team in HR and RBI. I also am not saying that Delgado will win, but I think that with what he has done as of late, his name belongs in the mix. That being said, I think that he needs to keep this up for me to continue to think that he belongs at or near the top of the list.

[imb]

Delgado's like the 5th best player on the Mets.

 

On July 1, the Mets were 3.5 back and a game under .500. Since then, Delgado has hit just over .300 with 17 home runs and 50 rbi. Over that time, Wright has 12 home runs and 39 rbi although his ba has been slightly better. Beltran's numbers have been similar to Wright's over this stretch. There is no doubting that there are more talented players on the Mets than Delgado, but he has been very important in their climb to the top of the division. The best player need not be the most valuable.

 

Why should Delgado's pre-7/1 #s not come into play? His playing like crap the first couple months of the season is a big reason the Mets were in a hole to begin with. Wright, Reyes, and Beltran all play better defense at more premium positions, while putting up better #s on the year.

 

Even with that slow start, if Delgado keeps up this pace, he will lead the team in HR and RBI. I also am not saying that Delgado will win, but I think that with what he has done as of late, his name belongs in the mix. That being said, I think that he needs to keep this up for me to continue to think that he belongs at or near the top of the list.

 

Carlos Delgado is 40th in the NL in VORP, behind such luminaries as our own Derrek Lee, Mike Cameron, Jayson Werth and Ty Wiggingon.

 

I'm not saying you necessarily just give it to the guy on top of the VORP leaderboard automatically, but it should never, ever, ever go to a guy that is 40th in his own league.

[biittner77]

I'd love to hear Joe Morgan weigh in on the NL MVP talk. I'd like to hear make the case for Gary Sheffield. I'm kidding of course, Joe Morgan would never give his opinion on something baseball related.

 

If the Phillies win the East and Utley has a decent Sept. he wins. Otherwise Pujols unless Lampwick* takes away some of his votes.

 

 

 

 

 

*I know what I wrote.

[NonProfitCow]

Assuming Pujols gets 4 AB's a game from here on out, he could go 1-96 and still hit .300.

[of1000Kings]

Pujols missed two weeks of the season due to injury, which would slightly deflate his counting stats (at least to the tune of 6-10 each of RBI and R)...

 

also, he's been intentionally walked more times than the next two players combined (at least in the NL, maybe baseball, not sure)...

 

Pujols has an OPS+ over 190...not just good, freakishly good...the best of his career if it stays around that number...

 

 

his numbers run circles around any other player in the NL, and he's taken a team that many predicted wouldn't win 80 games and has had them in contention for most of the season, even while they missed their #1 starter for a large chunk of the season...

 

his RC/g is over 12....Hanley Ramirez's is around 7, Berkman's is around 10.5, Ramirez's is just below 7 and Wright's is 7.3

his numbers are just absurdly better than anyone else in the NL...

not to mention he's also a premium defender (if not at a premium position)

 

but that doesn't guarantee Pujols the MVP, even when the difference is as large as it is...

no player has helped his team as much as Pujols, but we all know that this isn't the definition of value as determined by the MVP award, so who knows what will happen...my guess is that Utley is the front-runner if the Phils make the playoffs, and if the Mets make it then Wright probably is...

 

the Cubs haven't had an outstanding player; amazingly almost every single player is having a good season and the team always gets a hit when it needs it no matter who is at the plate, but no player is having a great season...

[ELCABALLO45]

Delgado's like the 5th best player on the Mets.

 

On July 1, the Mets were 3.5 back and a game under .500. Since then, Delgado has hit just over .300 with 17 home runs and 50 rbi. Over that time, Wright has 12 home runs and 39 rbi although his ba has been slightly better. Beltran's numbers have been similar to Wright's over this stretch. There is no doubting that there are more talented players on the Mets than Delgado, but he has been very important in their climb to the top of the division. The best player need not be the most valuable.

 

Why should Delgado's pre-7/1 #s not come into play? His playing like crap the first couple months of the season is a big reason the Mets were in a hole to begin with. Wright, Reyes, and Beltran all play better defense at more premium positions, while putting up better #s on the year.

 

Doesn't that just prove how valuable Delgado is then?

[imb]

Delgado's like the 5th best player on the Mets.

 

On July 1, the Mets were 3.5 back and a game under .500. Since then, Delgado has hit just over .300 with 17 home runs and 50 rbi. Over that time, Wright has 12 home runs and 39 rbi although his ba has been slightly better. Beltran's numbers have been similar to Wright's over this stretch. There is no doubting that there are more talented players on the Mets than Delgado, but he has been very important in their climb to the top of the division. The best player need not be the most valuable.

 

Why should Delgado's pre-7/1 #s not come into play? His playing like crap the first couple months of the season is a big reason the Mets were in a hole to begin with. Wright, Reyes, and Beltran all play better defense at more premium positions, while putting up better #s on the year.

 

Doesn't that just prove how valuable Delgado is then?

 

i'm going to give the mvp to ryan zimmerman look how bad the nationals have been while he's struggled all year MVP MVP MVP

[ELCABALLO45]

Delgado's like the 5th best player on the Mets.

 

On July 1, the Mets were 3.5 back and a game under .500. Since then, Delgado has hit just over .300 with 17 home runs and 50 rbi. Over that time, Wright has 12 home runs and 39 rbi although his ba has been slightly better. Beltran's numbers have been similar to Wright's over this stretch. There is no doubting that there are more talented players on the Mets than Delgado, but he has been very important in their climb to the top of the division. The best player need not be the most valuable.

 

Why should Delgado's pre-7/1 #s not come into play? His playing like crap the first couple months of the season is a big reason the Mets were in a hole to begin with. Wright, Reyes, and Beltran all play better defense at more premium positions, while putting up better #s on the year.

 

Doesn't that just prove how valuable Delgado is then?

 

i'm going to give the mvp to ryan zimmerman look how bad the nationals have been while he's struggled all year MVP MVP MVP

 

Haha.. No.

[sneakypower]

i'm going to give the mvp to ryan zimmerman look how bad the nationals have been while he's struggled all year MVP MVP MVP

thats elijah dukes you dumb bastard

 

Ronnie Belliard and Manny Acta have even been quoted that the team was playing with a sense of complacency in his absence; not having their kids lives threatened if they suck

[Ski]

Just curious, has a team ever scored a run in all 8/9 innings of a game?

[Guest]

Just curious, has a team ever scored a run in all 8/9 innings of a game?

 

Yes. According to this site, it's happened 13 times - 6 times in the AL and 7 in the NL - the last of which happened in this 2006 game. You'll have to scroll all the way down in the first link to find each game.

 

Also according to that site, in each occurrence in the AL, it was the home team that scored every inning (i.e. only in 8 innings).

[BigbadB]

Pujols missed two weeks of the season due to injury, which would slightly deflate his counting stats (at least to the tune of 6-10 each of RBI and R)...

 

also, he's been intentionally walked more times than the next two players combined (at least in the NL, maybe baseball, not sure)...

 

Pujols has an OPS+ over 190...not just good, freakishly good...the best of his career if it stays around that number...

 

 

his numbers run circles around any other player in the NL, and he's taken a team that many predicted wouldn't win 80 games and has had them in contention for most of the season, even while they missed their #1 starter for a large chunk of the season...

 

his RC/g is over 12....Hanley Ramirez's is around 7, Berkman's is around 10.5, Ramirez's is just below 7 and Wright's is 7.3

his numbers are just absurdly better than anyone else in the NL...

not to mention he's also a premium defender (if not at a premium position)

 

but that doesn't guarantee Pujols the MVP, even when the difference is as large as it is...

no player has helped his team as much as Pujols, but we all know that this isn't the definition of value as determined by the MVP award, so who knows what will happen...my guess is that Utley is the front-runner if the Phils make the playoffs, and if the Mets make it then Wright probably is...

 

the Cubs haven't had an outstanding player; amazingly almost every single player is having a good season and the team always gets a hit when it needs it no matter who is at the plate, but no player is having a great season...

 

One more bit of information to support your argument is that if St. Louis was in either of the other divisions, they would be in the playoff hunt. They'd be in first place in the NL West.

 

Personally, I don't put any stock at all into where a team finishes, because one player cannot make that much of an impact on whether a team finishes first or last. But, many of the voters seem to think that making the playoffs somehow makes someone more valuable than another.

 

And there really is a big difference between a guy who walks because he doesn't swing at crap and a guy who doesn't get anything but crap to swing at.

 

It's Pujols' award to lose at this point, IMO.

[mikeyt34]

The Cubs batting average with RISP and two outs is tied with Oakland for the worst in the majors hitting only .208. On a side note the Brewers are next to last with a sizzling .209 average.

 

I think Fukudome and Lee contribute to this stat on a nightly basis.