NFL Week 1 (Sept. 4th-8th)

[dew1679666265]

Vince apparently injured his MCL yesterday. He'll likely miss 2-4 weeks.

 

This isn't a good thing by any means, but it's not terrible. Kerry Collins is a decent enough backup and won't lose any games for us without Vince. Still disappointing, though. It would have been nice to see him play a full year under Heimerdinger this year.

[jersey cubs fan]

Who was the idiot who asked if the NFL can survive without Brady? I heard it on one of the stations at one point, but I don't quite remember the details of yesterday. 10 beers before going into a 100 degree stadium will do that to you.

[wekse]

Vince apparently injured his MCL yesterday. He'll likely miss 2-4 weeks.

 

This isn't a good thing by any means, but it's not terrible. Kerry Collins is a decent enough backup and won't lose any games for us without Vince. Still disappointing, though. It would have been nice to see him play a full year under Heimerdinger this year.

 

did you see the big write up in the tennessean about how some people believe vince quit on the team prior to getting hurt? just got done reading it and it looks like vince is falling out of favor fairly quickly around here.

[Cynosure]

Color me [expletive]...

 

Steve Smith isn't playing next week?

[dew1679666265]

if brady did indeed blow out his knee, the chargers need to fire norv turner immediately. they can definitely win the afc with a competent coach.

I'm perplexed by the turner hating. Was not getting to the AFC championship game (with a limping team) not good enough? With a healthy LT and/or Rivers that game looks a lot different.

 

So what if they lost game one of this season? The last three super bowl champions lost game one of the season. Only if they had a better coach, right?

 

Look, I'm not saying that he's the best coach ever or even that he is better than Schottenheimer. I'm just saying that he has talent to work with and he's a pretty smart football guy, especially offensively. Overall, I trust AJ Smith and the decisions he makes. He's built the chargers piece by piece and I trust that he's got the guy in charge that puts them in a good position to win.

 

Norv Turner has an entire career of incompetence as a head coach. That doesn't get ignored after one good season with an incredibly stacked roster that he inherited.

 

It doesn't help matters that they fired a great coach and brought in one who has proven he's simply a great O-coordinator and extremely incompetent head coach.

 

Bill Belichick as Cleveland HC: 36-44 (1-1 playoff record)

Bill Belichick as New England HC: 92-37 (14-3 playoff record)

 

Did he magically become a football genius after leaving Cleveland? Or is he a product of his team's talent? I just don't put a lot of stock into the head coach, that's all. SD has a really good team and this year, just like last year, their record will show that. Even with Norv Turner.

 

Even when Norv Turner has talent, his teams underperform. Besides last year the best season Norv's had is a 10-6 year with the Redskins. That was a team that featured a good Brad Johnson (60.9 comp %, 7.7 y/a that year), Stephen Davis (1400 yards and 17 TDs) and a decent defense. Not the worst of efforts for a coach, but that's not much to hang your hat on.

 

Along with that season, he's compiled a career 69-87 record and that extremely stacked Charger team started the year 1-3. They were at .500 (5-5) as late as Nov. 18 and it took a six game winning streak just to make the playoffs. The only difference between that team and the year before (a 14-2 record) was the coach.

 

Norv Turner's teams have always underperformed. That is the coach's fault.

[dew1679666265]

Vince apparently injured his MCL yesterday. He'll likely miss 2-4 weeks.

 

This isn't a good thing by any means, but it's not terrible. Kerry Collins is a decent enough backup and won't lose any games for us without Vince. Still disappointing, though. It would have been nice to see him play a full year under Heimerdinger this year.

 

did you see the big write up in the tennessean about how some people believe vince quit on the team prior to getting hurt? just got done reading it and it looks like vince is falling out of favor fairly quickly around here.

 

I've been hearing that, but I think it's just reporters and writers jumping to conclusions. Vince is still young and was very frustrated at the time. He definitely doesn't seem like he's the most mentally tough QB I've ever seen, but I doubt he was quitting on the team.

 

He's got a new offensive coordinator who's tougher than ever on him and he was frustrated after struggling throughout the game. As of right now, I'm not real worried about it. Check back with me later in the year, though.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

good news for the Titans..they can now upgrade their QB position.

[dew1679666265]

good news for the Titans..they can now upgrade their QB position.

 

Actually, for as many people who have been down on Vince (and there are a whole lot), he's actually fairly well in line with a young Steve McNair right now.

 

Vince, first 2 yrs as a starter: 51.5 comp %, 12 TD/13 INT, 4.9 y/a

62.3 comp %, 9 TD/17 INT, 6.7 y/a

 

McNair, first 2 yrs as a starter: 52.0 comp %, 14 TD/13 INT, 6.4 y/a

58.7 comp %, 15 TD/10 INT, 6.6 y/a

 

McNair was definitely better, but you have to consider he had two years to sit on the bench, play sparingly and learn from Chris Chandler before taking over. Vince was thrown right into the fire and expected to not only play well, but also win. Steve also had better receivers than Vince.

 

McNair turned out to be a very good QB in his prime and I think there's no question it's still way too early to make any decision on Vince. This wasn't directed at you at all, by the way GoCubsGo. You just happened to make the last post about Vince.

[Andy]

Color me [expletive]...

 

Steve Smith isn't playing next week?

He got suspended 2 games for punching out Ken Lucas. He didn't play yesterday either.

 

And CubbieBum beat me to it...all the Colts fans are having a party that Brady is out, even after being embarrassed last night. I'm just wondering how they'll screw up winning the AFC this time.

[Guest]

Goodbye NE if Brady's done for the year.

 

i bet everyone thought the pats were sunk when blesdoe got hurt and brady had to come in.

 

Do you have faith in Matt Cassell?

 

I still think they'll be in the playoff hunt, but I don't see them as a Super Bowl threat now.

 

 

 

They'll be in the playoff hunt simply because they play in the AFC East (not to say the Pats weren't good the last few years, but damn does that division suck outside of them).

 

Well, that and they also play the AFC West and NFC West. Their schedule is really easy.

 

If they got the AFC South and NFC East, it would be a different story. But they got two of the worst divisions in football to go along with their own, which is pretty bad itself.

[jersey cubs fan]

Maybe I'm just a huge fan of schadenfreude, but I'm really looking forward to Bill Simmons next NFL column.

 

He was predicting an off year for the Patriots I believe, as well as Tom Brady probably missing a little time. I'm guessing he'll talk a lot about Willis Reed.

[dew1679666265]

Color me [expletive]...

 

Steve Smith isn't playing next week?

He got suspended 2 games for punching out Ken Lucas. He didn't play yesterday either.

 

And CubbieBum beat me to it...all the Colts fans are having a party that Brady is out, even after being embarrassed last night. I'm just wondering how they'll screw up winning the AFC this time.

 

The Titans will win it. :D

[bukie]

It's official, Brady is out for the year. NFL talking heads already looking for a new bandwagon to hop on.

[jersey cubs fan]

It's official, Brady is out for the year. NFL talking heads already looking for a new bandwagon to hop on.

 

that is some hardcore linking going on right there.

[bukie]

It's official, Brady is out for the year. NFL talking heads already looking for a new bandwagon to hop on.

 

that is some hardcore linking going on right there.

 

I like to get all the pointless opinions confined to one post. :)

[Soul]

I wonder if Berrian is wondering about whether he went to the right team. Enjoy all that "freedom" to run routes, Bernard. 'Course, the ball won't be on target any time soon, but sure does feel nice to be able to run around don't it?

[Flames24Rulz]

Rodgers has looked as good as anyone could have hoped so far. Unfortunately that field goal was blocked right at the half.

 

Defense needs to keep doing their thing and we'll be ok.

[Soul]

Rodgers looks pretty good. I'm impressed so far.

 

I'm starting to wonder when the big, bad, Super Bowl contender Vikings are going to show up. Because right now? Not seeing it, on either side of the ball.

[CoolHandLuke]

Rodgers looks pretty good. I'm impressed so far.

 

I'm starting to wonder when the big, bad, Super Bowl contender Vikings are going to show up. Because right now? Not seeing it, on either side of the ball.

 

From what I can tell, they are pretty much just a solid qb short of being real good.

[Soul]

Kornheiser must be stopped.

 

Yes Tony, we know this is Favre's old team and some comparisons are warranted, but do you have to make EVERY SENTENCE a comparison of Rodgers & Favre?

 

Come on.

[dew1679666265]

Rodgers looks pretty good. I'm impressed so far.

 

I'm starting to wonder when the big, bad, Super Bowl contender Vikings are going to show up. Because right now? Not seeing it, on either side of the ball.

 

I'm not entirely sure where they're significantly better than the Titans.

 

Both teams have excellent defenses (Vikings maybe a little better, but not much), both have great running games (AP is better than LenDale, but Chris Johnson may swing things a bit), both have mediocre receivers (save for Berrian, adv Minn) and both have huge questions at QB.

 

Maybe I'm being biased, but if the Vikings are big time Super Bowl contenders, why aren't the Titans?

 

The only thing I can think of is that the Vikings are in the NFC and the Titans are in the AFC. But they're very similar teams.

[Soul]

Better drive that time, but again they can't finish. Packers' D tightened up pretty good once they got inside the 20.

[Sammys Boombox]

Kornheiser must be stopped.

 

Yes Tony, we know this is Favre's old team and some comparisons are warranted, but do you have to make EVERY SENTENCE a comparison of Rodgers & Favre?

 

Come on.

 

I agree. I'm a huge Packers fan and am tired of hearing about Favre. I love the man, and I don't really like McCarthy but I want to hear about my team and that is Rodgers, not Favre.

[Wilson A2000]

[Maybe I'm being biased, but if the Vikings are big time Super Bowl contenders, why aren't the Titans?

 

The only thing I can think of is that the Vikings are in the NFC and the Titans are in the AFC. But they're very similar teams.

 

That's one reason, but the Vikings also have maybe the best combined O and D lines in football.

[Soul]

Rodgers looks pretty good. I'm impressed so far.

 

I'm starting to wonder when the big, bad, Super Bowl contender Vikings are going to show up. Because right now? Not seeing it, on either side of the ball.

 

I'm not entirely sure where they're significantly better than the Titans.

 

Both teams have excellent defenses (Vikings maybe a little better, but not much), both have great running games (AP is better than LenDale, but Chris Johnson may swing things a bit), both have mediocre receivers (save for Berrian, adv Minn) and both have huge questions at QB.

 

Maybe I'm being biased, but if the Vikings are big time Super Bowl contenders, why aren't the Titans?

 

The only thing I can think of is that the Vikings are in the NFC and the Titans are in the AFC. But they're very similar teams.

 

It's because they're in the NFC. I think you're comparison is pretty good though.

 

I'm still not understanding what Childress is seeing in Jackson.