8/13: Gm 2 Cubs (Harden) @ Braves (Campillo) 6:15p CDT CSN+

[Allroy]

The Braves annoucers are horrid. They are jerks. "Do you think there will be retaliation?" "I hope not, Soriano's apology should tell the Cubs that the Braves were doing what they had to do." Since when is throwing a fastball at someone's head appropriate? I saw the replay in slow motion and Fonz is lucky he didn't get earholed by that pitch. I saw shades of Sosa's helmet exploding.

[17 Seconds]

It's weird that Atlanta is near the top of the league in walks but near the bottom in P/PA.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I assume an out everytime Theriot runs....lucky there.

[weis21]

Braves announcers are still really bitter about the Soriano situation in game one. Pretty much just bad mouthing him and saying "the braves did what they had to do" etc. Although, I guess it's more interesting content than discussing the braves actual ballclub.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

42 pitches for Campillo. 28 in the first, 14 in the second.

[Outshined_One]

http://i38.tinypic.com/2whp7cz.jpg

[bcl412]

Braves announcers are still really bitter about the Soriano situation in game one. Pretty much just bad mouthing him and saying "the braves did what they had to do" etc. Although, I guess it's more interesting content than discussing the braves actual ballclub.

 

I suppose Bobby Cox arguing balls and strikes is just part of the game though.

[killthegoat06]

Braves announcers are still really bitter about the Soriano situation in game one. Pretty much just bad mouthing him and saying "the braves did what they had to do" etc. Although, I guess it's more interesting content than discussing the braves actual ballclub.

that's about as unprofessional as you can get (both the braves and their announcers)

[WTFCUBS]

Whats Harden's velocity look like?

[bcl412]

Braves announcers are still really bitter about the Soriano situation in game one. Pretty much just bad mouthing him and saying "the braves did what they had to do" etc. Although, I guess it's more interesting content than discussing the braves actual ballclub.

that's about as unprofessional as you can get (both the braves and their announcers)

 

I don't get why people make a big deal out of people posing during their home runs (I'm not really talking about Soriano's play because that was stupid) it's been going on for at least 10 years now, why don't old people pick something else to complain about because it's not going away.

[Schwarber Fan]

Man, Infante really hits it well against us

[mul21]

Lucky for me I'm in Memphis for work tonight where they get FSN South so I get to watch the game. It's still kind of Cardinals country here with their AAA team being here so I was expecting to see the Cards and Marlins on the FSN channel they get.

 

Good to see Harden get some early run support.

 

Edit: Grammar that made me want to vomit when I saw it.

Edited August 13, 2008 by mul21

[UMFan83]

Wow Rich Harden pitching to contact??

[Schwarber Fan]

LOL, Edmonds HOF talk now on the Braves broadcast

[imb]

Braves announcers are still really bitter about the Soriano situation in game one. Pretty much just bad mouthing him and saying "the braves did what they had to do" etc. Although, I guess it's more interesting content than discussing the braves actual ballclub.

that's about as unprofessional as you can get (both the braves and their announcers)

 

I don't get why people make a big deal out of people posing during their home runs (I'm not really talking about Soriano's play because that was stupid) it's been going on for at least 10 years now, why don't old people pick something else to complain about because it's not going away.

 

hats

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

28 pitches for Harden through two.

[killthegoat06]

Wow Rich Harden pitching to contact??

I'm not complaining. No k's, but only 28 pitches.

[killthegoat06]

nice relaxing games...why can't this happen every day?

[shnsajax]

Has a manager ever been thrown out of both games of a double header?

[Schwarber Fan]

Has a manager ever been thrown out of both games of a double header?

 

http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/1946/june_9_1946_106996.html

 

June 9, 1946 in History

Event:

New York Giant Mel Ott is 1st mgr ejected from both games of a doubleheader

[Ski]

Wow Rich Harden pitching to contact??

I'm not complaining. No k's, but only 28 pitches.

Terrible trade. DFA.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

57 pitches for Campillo.

[17 Seconds]

Quick, entirely overmanaging strategy question here.

 

Blanco was up with 1st and 2nd, one out. Let's say he walked there, and loaded the bases for Harden, a very weak hitter. Hypothetically, would it be possible to announce Zambrano as the "starting pitcher" every day, and bat him in the 9th spot, so that in the rare cases the pitcher bats in the first, we get a good hitter? If he doesn't come up, then just "substitute" in the actual starting pitcher, Harden. I know you wouldn't want to do it with a positional bench player, because it wastes him, but there's no chance of Z getting into this game anyways, so what's the difference?

 

I have a sinking feeling that the whole "announced pitcher has to throw at least one pitch" thing is going to make all this worthless, but just something that popped into my head...

 

Earl Weaver used to do this with his DH spot - they called it the phantom DH. He'd have Steve Stone or Flannagan or some pitcher in the starting line-up as the DH and then pinch-hit for them when their spot came up. MLB changed the rules because of this.

 

Wait, I don't get it. What's the point of that? I'm missing it.

[CubColtPacer]

Has a manager ever been thrown out of both games of a double header?

 

http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/1946/june_9_1946_106996.html

 

June 9, 1946 in History

Event:

New York Giant Mel Ott is 1st mgr ejected from both games of a doubleheader

 

In fact, he got ejected from the 2nd game because he went down to the umpire's room in between games still complaining about what got him ejected in the first game.

[Schwarber Fan]

Quick, entirely overmanaging strategy question here.

 

Blanco was up with 1st and 2nd, one out. Let's say he walked there, and loaded the bases for Harden, a very weak hitter. Hypothetically, would it be possible to announce Zambrano as the "starting pitcher" every day, and bat him in the 9th spot, so that in the rare cases the pitcher bats in the first, we get a good hitter? If he doesn't come up, then just "substitute" in the actual starting pitcher, Harden. I know you wouldn't want to do it with a positional bench player, because it wastes him, but there's no chance of Z getting into this game anyways, so what's the difference?

 

I have a sinking feeling that the whole "announced pitcher has to throw at least one pitch" thing is going to make all this worthless, but just something that popped into my head...

 

Earl Weaver used to do this with his DH spot - they called it the phantom DH. He'd have Steve Stone or Flannagan or some pitcher in the starting line-up as the DH and then pinch-hit for them when their spot came up. MLB changed the rules because of this.

 

Wait, I don't get it. What's the point of that? I'm missing it.

 

The Phantom DH

 

The DH listed in the starting line-up must bat at least once before being substituted, unless there is an injury or the opposite team's starting pitcher has been changed. This rule was added after the 1980 season to close a loophole discovered by Baltimore Orioles manager Earl Weaver: he would list one of his inactive starting pitchers in the starting line-up as a phantom DH, and then, when his first time to bat came up, Weaver could decide which of a number of players to use as a pinch hitter for his DH, depending on the situation (for example if there were men on base, if he needed a base-runner, etc). Pitchers Steve Stone and Dennis Martinez were used most often in this capacity. Boxscores from that time would list the pitchers as having played a game at DH, but after the amendment to the rule was adopted, these "appearances" were erased from these pitchers' records.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/DH