The Jeff Samardzija Thread

[David]

Seriously, about a month ago Samardzija was a guy who many people thought probably didn't even deserve his promotion to AAA. Now he's K-Rod? Fantastic.

 

Some people are setting themselves up for some serious disapointment, namely Lou. I hope I'm wrong, of course.

 

 

Well, he did figure out how to strike people out in the past month or so. That said, the KRod/Joba comparisons are extremely premature.

[CuseCubFan69]

Seriously, about a month ago Samardzija was a guy who many people thought probably didn't even deserve his promotion to AAA. Now he's K-Rod? Fantastic.

 

Some people are setting themselves up for some serious disapointment, namely Lou. I hope I'm wrong, of course.

 

 

Well, he did figure out how to strike people out in the past month or so. That said, the KRod/Joba comparisons are extremely premature.

 

I just hope this doesn't set up another CPatt type of thing. All these high hopes and he turns out to be average and ends up being another whipping boy because he isn't a lights out reliever.

[bukie]

I just hope this doesn't set up another CPatt type of thing. All these high hopes and he turns out to be average and ends up being another whipping boy because he isn't a lights out reliever.

 

I think the college he attended doesn't help his general public perception any, either. If, for example, he had been a star wideout at, say, Northwestern, and the Cubs signed him up, there'd be a lot lower risk of the public turning on him.

[CuseCubFan69]

I just hope this doesn't set up another CPatt type of thing. All these high hopes and he turns out to be average and ends up being another whipping boy because he isn't a lights out reliever.

 

I think the college he attended doesn't help his general public perception any, either. If, for example, he had been a star wideout at, say, Northwestern, and the Cubs signed him up, there'd be a lot lower risk of the public turning on him.

 

Has there ever been a star wideout from Northwestern?

 

Yeah, the ND thing is going to cause him to get a lot more attention good and bad.

[El Ridda]

Here's a question....

 

If last night JS was deemed completely unavailable because he pitched 2 innings on Sunday, would Lou have considered using him (and his 4.5/4.6 40 time) as a pinch runner like he has done often this year with Marquis? That would be awesome.

[El Ridda]

I just hope this doesn't set up another CPatt type of thing. All these high hopes and he turns out to be average and ends up being another whipping boy because he isn't a lights out reliever.

 

I think the college he attended doesn't help his general public perception any, either. If, for example, he had been a star wideout at, say, Northwestern, and the Cubs signed him up, there'd be a lot lower risk of the public turning on him.

 

Has there ever been a star wideout from Northwestern?

 

Yeah, the ND thing is going to cause him to get a lot more attention good and bad.

 

D'Wayne Bates is the closest thing to a star WR at NW that I can remember.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Here's a question....

 

If last night JS was deemed completely unavailable because he pitched 2 innings on Sunday, would Lou have considered using him (and his 4.5/4.6 40 time) as a pinch runner like he has done often this year with Marquis? That would be awesome.

even fast guys can be terrible base runners

[El Ridda]

Here's a question....

 

If last night JS was deemed completely unavailable because he pitched 2 innings on Sunday, would Lou have considered using him (and his 4.5/4.6 40 time) as a pinch runner like he has done often this year with Marquis? That would be awesome.

even fast guys can be terrible base runners

 

 

 

I'm not asking him to be Willie McGee and steal bases, but just to get from station to station as quickly as possible. Admit, it would be pretty fun to watch that scenario play out.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I thought the book on him was his Fastball was flat but I've seen posts here regarding it having movement? Which is it?

 

When I saw him at Mississippi his fastball didn't have the movement that it had in his two appearances at Wrigley.

 

Thanks to all for the info. I always compared him to the relief pitcher (L something) the Cubs got from the Tigers a couple of years ago.

 

 

The only relief pitcher I can recall we've gotten from the Tigers recently was Roberto Novoa.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Yeah, I'm curious who you're referring to, Cuse. I did a quick browse around baseball reference and couldn't figure it out.

[Guest]

I just hope this doesn't set up another CPatt type of thing. All these high hopes and he turns out to be average and ends up being another whipping boy because he isn't a lights out reliever.

 

I think the college he attended doesn't help his general public perception any, either. If, for example, he had been a star wideout at, say, Northwestern, and the Cubs signed him up, there'd be a lot lower risk of the public turning on him.

 

Has there ever been a star wideout from Northwestern?

 

Yeah, the ND thing is going to cause him to get a lot more attention good and bad.

 

Don't let Jon see that.

 

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[CuseCubFan69]

I thought the book on him was his Fastball was flat but I've seen posts here regarding it having movement? Which is it?

 

When I saw him at Mississippi his fastball didn't have the movement that it had in his two appearances at Wrigley.

 

Thanks to all for the info. I always compared him to the relief pitcher (L something) the Cubs got from the Tigers a couple of years ago.

 

 

The only relief pitcher I can recall we've gotten from the Tigers recently was Roberto Novoa.

 

That's the guy. Sorry bd811, wrong letter.

[Jon]

Gissendaner and Lee Buchanan of the early '90s would probably be the closest in recent history behind Bates.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Ha, no worries. I was just killing time at work, anyway.

 

If Samardzija ends up as a comparable pitcher to Roberto Novoa, that has to be a serious disappointment for everyone in the Cubs organization, considering the amount of money they invested in him.

[BigSlick]

Seriously, about a month ago Samardzija was a guy who many people thought probably didn't even deserve his promotion to AAA. Now he's K-Rod? Fantastic.

 

Some people are setting themselves up for some serious disapointment, namely Lou. I hope I'm wrong, of course.

 

 

Well, he did figure out how to strike people out in the past month or so. That said, the KRod/Joba comparisons are extremely premature.

I think most people will just take Not-Howry

 

I mean is that too much to ask?

[BigSlick]

Seriously, about a month ago Samardzija was a guy who many people thought probably didn't even deserve his promotion to AAA. Now he's K-Rod? Fantastic.

 

Some people are setting themselves up for some serious disapointment, namely Lou. I hope I'm wrong, of course.

 

 

Well, he did figure out how to strike people out in the past month or so. That said, the KRod/Joba comparisons are extremely premature.

 

I just hope this doesn't set up another CPatt type of thing. All these high hopes and he turns out to be average and ends up being another whipping boy because he isn't a lights out reliever.

I'm going to let you in on a secret

 

Corey Patterson is way worse than average

[RammyFanny]

Man, it is getting a little insane. Don't know if it was mentioned, but FoxSports has an quote from a scout saying his fastball is "Gossage like" with the late movement and all.

[abuck1220]

man, the cubs can't trade this guy fast enough.

[Elrhino]

I see it as the exact opposite of a "C-Pat" thing, because C-Pat was a scout and BA Top 100 darling on Day 1. People were anticipating C-Pat's big league debut since he was in Single A. Shark has been more of an unexpected surprise, ala Soto. Comparing him to K-Rod is extreme, but I'm fully willing to ride this out as far as it will go. It's like getting a free deadline trade for a reliever who throws 99 mph.

 

That said, I'm amazed that someone with such electric stuff was ignored by so many prospect lists. Yes, I know his stats weren't all that terrific, but given his background and his raw stuff you would have thought he would have gotten some benefit of the doubt and gotten a few mentions. Was he even on Rotoworld's Top 150 prospect list that came up a few weeks ago? It's like people purposely held a grudge against him.

[jersey cubs fan]

man, the cubs can't trade this guy fast enough.

 

Luckily, the great GM gave him a no-trade clause, eliminating a huge amount of the value any prospect has.

[Vanilla Ice]

Seriously, about a month ago Samardzija was a guy who many people thought probably didn't even deserve his promotion to AAA. Now he's K-Rod? Fantastic.

 

Some people are setting themselves up for some serious disapointment, namely Lou. I hope I'm wrong, of course.

 

 

Well, he did figure out how to strike people out in the past month or so. That said, the KRod/Joba comparisons are extremely premature.

I think most people will just take Not-Howry

 

I mean is that too much to ask?

It's not

 

I mean Howry is probably the worst reliever on the team so...

[CubinNY]

man, the cubs can't trade this guy fast enough.

I was thinking the same thing. I'm impressed yet skeptical that he can keep it together. We'll see if IMB's Peter Principle holds.

[The Voice of Reason]

Just induct Samardzija into the Hall of Fame now.

[Old Style]

Why did Lou use Samardzija in the 9th?

[YearofDaCubs]

No idea why. I see no reason to use him especially if we need to use him tomorrow. We should have used Marshall, Eyre or Cotts. GUys that Lou refuses to use whenever possible. You would think you would use your crappiest reliever when having a 7 run lead.