The Chicago Bears Preseason Thread

[jersey cubs fan]

 

We'll see. The Packers didn't look all that ready for the season last game. Actually I was thinking to myself if Rodgers had put up a big goose egg like he just did, only in a Chicago uni, people would be calling for his head. Or at least they'd be calling for Hanie.

 

Calling for Rodgers head is stupid. He is essentially a rookie QB, and isn't going to be Brett Favre right away. In fact at his ceiling he isn't going to be anywhere close to Brett Favre. Packers fanse understand this and are willing to give him a chance.

 

He is an unproven commidity and the Packers don't know what they have in him, and until they do the fanbase and franchise will remain commited. If Bears fans were calling for the head of Rodgers in the exact same situation in Chicago, and wanted Matt Flynn to start over him I think I would laugh myself to death.

 

Some of these Bear fans? I wouldn't put it past 'em, given the hypothetical situation. Chicago is the town, after all, that has been in love with it's QB depth chart for over 20 years.

 

They are also the town that hasn't had a really good QB in forever. The fans might not be calm, cool and collected, but they haven't been wrong about their QBs either. Guys didn't fail because fans were trigger happy. The team has done a horrible job bringing in offensive brainpower and quarterbacks. There's no disputing that fact.

[Soul]

 

We'll see. The Packers didn't look all that ready for the season last game. Actually I was thinking to myself if Rodgers had put up a big goose egg like he just did, only in a Chicago uni, people would be calling for his head. Or at least they'd be calling for Hanie.

 

Calling for Rodgers head is stupid. He is essentially a rookie QB, and isn't going to be Brett Favre right away. In fact at his ceiling he isn't going to be anywhere close to Brett Favre. Packers fanse understand this and are willing to give him a chance.

 

He is an unproven commidity and the Packers don't know what they have in him, and until they do the fanbase and franchise will remain commited. If Bears fans were calling for the head of Rodgers in the exact same situation in Chicago, and wanted Matt Flynn to start over him I think I would laugh myself to death.

 

Some of these Bear fans? I wouldn't put it past 'em, given the hypothetical situation. Chicago is the town, after all, that has been in love with it's QB depth chart for over 20 years.

 

They are also the town that hasn't had a really good QB in forever. The fans might not be calm, cool and collected, but they haven't been wrong about their QBs either. Guys didn't fail because fans were trigger happy. The team has done a horrible job bringing in offensive brainpower and quarterbacks. There's no disputing that fact.

I wouldn't dispute that.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

 

We'll see. The Packers didn't look all that ready for the season last game. Actually I was thinking to myself if Rodgers had put up a big goose egg like he just did, only in a Chicago uni, people would be calling for his head. Or at least they'd be calling for Hanie.

 

Calling for Rodgers head is stupid. He is essentially a rookie QB, and isn't going to be Brett Favre right away. In fact at his ceiling he isn't going to be anywhere close to Brett Favre. Packers fanse understand this and are willing to give him a chance.

 

He is an unproven commidity and the Packers don't know what they have in him, and until they do the fanbase and franchise will remain commited. If Bears fans were calling for the head of Rodgers in the exact same situation in Chicago, and wanted Matt Flynn to start over him I think I would laugh myself to death.

 

Some of these Bear fans? I wouldn't put it past 'em, given the hypothetical situation. Chicago is the town, after all, that has been in love with it's QB depth chart for over 20 years.

 

They are also the town that hasn't had a really good QB in forever. The fans might not be calm, cool and collected, but they haven't been wrong about their QBs either. Guys didn't fail because fans were trigger happy. The team has done a horrible job bringing in offensive brainpower and quarterbacks. There's no disputing that fact.

I wouldn't dispute that.

 

I wouldn't either, but here is the big difference. Give Aaron Rodgers, Grossman's numbers in 2006, and have the Rodgers led Packers go to the Super Bowl. He would be revered in that town not villianized like Grossman is here. Its a joke.

[Wilson A2000]

Grossman regressed in 2007. It's not the same guy.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

 

We'll see. The Packers didn't look all that ready for the season last game. Actually I was thinking to myself if Rodgers had put up a big goose egg like he just did, only in a Chicago uni, people would be calling for his head. Or at least they'd be calling for Hanie.

 

Calling for Rodgers head is stupid. He is essentially a rookie QB, and isn't going to be Brett Favre right away. In fact at his ceiling he isn't going to be anywhere close to Brett Favre. Packers fanse understand this and are willing to give him a chance.

 

He is an unproven commidity and the Packers don't know what they have in him, and until they do the fanbase and franchise will remain commited. If Bears fans were calling for the head of Rodgers in the exact same situation in Chicago, and wanted Matt Flynn to start over him I think I would laugh myself to death.

 

You havent watched much Bears football or listened to much chicago sports radio or read the trib or suntimes. You would have been dead already.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

The Bears regressed in 2007. It's not the same team.

 

fixed

 

also look at Grossman's numbers when he came back after the ridiculous benching.

[Soul]

Grossman regressed in 2007. It's not the same guy.

 

Hard to be the same guy when there's a 300 pounder in your face 2 seconds after the snap on every pass play.

[Wilson A2000]

The Bears regressed in 2007. It's not the same team.

 

fixed

 

also look at Grossman's numbers when he came back after the ridiculous benching.

 

That's because he toned his act down. Grossman's upside is that he can be a playmaker and a gambler. Once he learned that he can't do this (after the benching), he won't make as many mistakes, but he won't have the upside either. If that is all he will be, let Orton see if he can be better.

 

The Bears aren't making the playoffs with either QB. We have seen Rex. Now let's see Kyle.

[UMFan83]

Grossman regressed in 2007. It's not the same guy.

 

Look all I know is that the Bears were 3-5 when he played and 4-4 when he did not. Oh wait wrong thread.

[CubbieBum]

The Bears regressed in 2007. It's not the same team.

 

fixed

 

also look at Grossman's numbers when he came back after the ridiculous benching.

 

and a large reason for the team's regression was Grossman suckage. Grossman had a great 8 games in 2006 and a very bad 8 games in 2006. Starting with the 6th game of the year in 2006 and through the last 11 games Grossman had 13 td's to 17 int's. And it got worse towards the end of the season (5-9 ratio in last 6 games including the awesome 2 for 12, 3 int game 0.0 rating game to end the season). Grossman had a good start to the '06 season and has sucked ever since.

[Flames24Rulz]

 

We'll see. The Packers didn't look all that ready for the season last game. Actually I was thinking to myself if Rodgers had put up a big goose egg like he just did, only in a Chicago uni, people would be calling for his head. Or at least they'd be calling for Hanie.

 

Calling for Rodgers head is stupid. He is essentially a rookie QB, and isn't going to be Brett Favre right away. In fact at his ceiling he isn't going to be anywhere close to Brett Favre. Packers fanse understand this and are willing to give him a chance.

 

He is an unproven commidity and the Packers don't know what they have in him, and until they do the fanbase and franchise will remain commited. If Bears fans were calling for the head of Rodgers in the exact same situation in Chicago, and wanted Matt Flynn to start over him I think I would laugh myself to death.

 

I would've been utterly embarrassed if the fans at Lambeau booed Rodgers at the start of the game last week.

 

And what you guys have been saying is what I said all of last year. It doesn't matter who the Bears QB is with that pile of crap known as the offensive line. No quarterback in the league will succeed with that.

[David]

The Bears regressed in 2007. It's not the same team.

 

fixed

 

also look at Grossman's numbers when he came back after the ridiculous benching.

 

and a large reason for the team's regression was Grossman suckage. Grossman had a great 8 games in 2006 and a very bad 8 games in 2006. Starting with the 6th game of the year in 2006 and through the last 11 games Grossman had 13 td's to 17 int's. And it got worse towards the end of the season (5-9 ratio in last 6 games including the awesome 2 for 12, 3 int game 0.0 rating game to end the season). Grossman had a good start to the '06 season and has sucked ever since.

 

 

False, unless your definition of very bad is different than mine. He had 8 great games, 5 terrible ones, and 3 ranging from mediocre-bad to pretty good.

 

I tend to think the offensive line being terrible and the many defensive injuries had more to do with the plight of last year's team than anything Grossman did in the first 3 games.

 

 

EDIT - Sorry, I "misremembered" (although one of the terrible ones I forgot was half of a 100% meaningless game)

[Soul]

The Bears regressed in 2007. It's not the same team.

 

fixed

 

also look at Grossman's numbers when he came back after the ridiculous benching.

 

That's because he toned his act down. Grossman's upside is that he can be a playmaker and a gambler. Once he learned that he can't do this (after the benching), he won't make as many mistakes, but he won't have the upside either. If that is all he will be, let Orton see if he can be better.

 

The Bears aren't making the playoffs with either QB. We have seen Rex. Now let's see Kyle.

 

I have no problem seeing what Kyle can do. But I think it's silly to pin the tail on Rex's arse when the line play we had last year was beyond horrible. Again, it's not just the QB that makes or breaks an offense.

[Illini Iceman]

I wonder if it is worth taking a flyer on Joe Horn.

[Soul]

I wonder if it is worth taking a flyer on Joe Horn.

They were talking about that on comcast a little while ago. Does he have any speed left? If not, then I don't see how he would help us. We've already got a cadre of slower possession type receivers.

[Wilson A2000]

I wonder if it is worth taking a flyer on Joe Horn.

They were talking about that on comcast a little while ago. Does he have any speed left? If not, then I don't see how he would help us. We've already got a cadre of slower possession type receivers.

 

Getting Horn is akin to the Sox getting Griffey: get an old, slow player for an old, slow team. Why?

[Soul]

I wonder if it is worth taking a flyer on Joe Horn.

They were talking about that on comcast a little while ago. Does he have any speed left? If not, then I don't see how he would help us. We've already got a cadre of slower possession type receivers.

 

Getting Horn is akin to the Sox getting Griffey: get an old, slow player for an old, slow team. Why?

Yeah if he's slow now, I don't see the point. Actually I didn't see the point of Booker either, but that's another story.

[Banedon]

I wonder if it is worth taking a flyer on Joe Horn.

They were talking about that on comcast a little while ago. Does he have any speed left? If not, then I don't see how he would help us. We've already got a cadre of slower possession type receivers.

 

Getting Horn is akin to the Sox getting Griffey: get an old, slow player for an old, slow team. Why?

Yeah if he's slow now, I don't see the point. Actually I didn't see the point of Booker either, but that's another story.

 

I'm gonna make a prediction: Booker doesn't make the team.

[Banedon]

I think the Bears are actually happy about their WR situation, but maybe consider Anquan Boldin?

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3543594

[Soul]

I think the Bears are actually happy about their WR situation, but maybe consider Anquan Boldin?

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3543594

 

If he's asking for a trade that's one thing, but he's still attending practices right? If so, then I wouldn't put as much stock in it until he decides to take that next step and leave the team. The Cards apparently are saying they aren't trading him. So I don't know. I usually dismiss stuff like this if the player is still attending team functions.

[jersey cubs fan]

I wonder if it is worth taking a flyer on Joe Horn.

They were talking about that on comcast a little while ago. Does he have any speed left? If not, then I don't see how he would help us. We've already got a cadre of slower possession type receivers.

 

Getting Horn is akin to the Sox getting Griffey: get an old, slow player for an old, slow team. Why?

Yeah if he's slow now, I don't see the point. Actually I didn't see the point of Booker either, but that's another story.

 

I'm gonna make a prediction: Booker doesn't make the team.

 

That has certainly picked up steam in the past week or two. He's essentially a slight downgrade to Moose, but Moose was pretty worthless last year. I'd prefer it if some younger guys beat him out, which at the very least could be a positive in the future. Booker isn't going to be a part of this team if/when they ever return to elite SB contender status.

[Soul]

13-3, Super Bowl. YES THAT'S RIGHT YOU JUST READ THAT.

[UMFan83]

13-3, Super Bowl. YES THAT'S RIGHT YOU JUST READ THAT.

 

You're looking for the 2006 Chicago Bears Preseason Thread.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Seeing what Orton can do involves watching him throw any pass of more than 15 yards besides that skinny post up the middle.

 

Once you've done that, you can conclude he doesn't have the arm to be a big-time NFL quarterback and move on.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

I wonder if it is worth taking a flyer on Joe Horn.

They were talking about that on comcast a little while ago. Does he have any speed left? If not, then I don't see how he would help us. We've already got a cadre of slower possession type receivers.

 

Getting Horn is akin to the Sox getting Griffey: get an old, slow player for an old, slow team. Why?

Yeah if he's slow now, I don't see the point. Actually I didn't see the point of Booker either, but that's another story.

 

I'm gonna make a prediction: Booker doesn't make the team.

 

That has certainly picked up steam in the past week or two. He's essentially a slight downgrade to Moose, but Moose was pretty worthless last year. I'd prefer it if some younger guys beat him out, which at the very least could be a positive in the future. Booker isn't going to be a part of this team if/when they ever return to elite SB contender status.

 

They keep saying that there are 2 spots for bradley booker and lloyd. lloyd has been the best reciever on the team, so its down to bradley and booker. I could see booker being cut