7/21 Cubs (Harden) @ D-Backs (Unit) 8:40 CT CSN

[David]

Dick Harden

[David]

So much for that. That would've worked much better right under E.J.'s post.

[Fred Hornkohl]

I'm really concerned with this offense. The CUBS have played 2 consecutive games without drawing a single base on balls. That hasn't happened since June of 2005.

 

Over the last 5 games, they are seeing 3.58 P/PA with an IsoD of 0.049, while the league average is approximately 3.75. It's quite prevasive too, not just a few players...........

 

07/12 - 07/20        P   PA  P/PA
Theriot             95   24  3.96
DeRosa              83   21  3.95
D Lee               88   23  3.83
Soto                72   19  3.79
Fontenot            67   18  3.72
Edmonds             54   15  3.60
Fukudome            71   20  3.55
Ward                14    4  3.50
Ramirez             77   23  3.35
Johnson             33   10  3.30
Blanco               7    3  2.33
Cedeno               5    3  1.67

CUBS               708  198  3.58

 

We seem to have our old free swinging feast or famine offense back.... and adding Soriano to this bunch is only going make it worse. What happened to that patient bunch of hitters that lead the league in runs scored ???

[E.J.]

So much for that. That would've worked much better right under E.J.'s post.

 

4-day timeout for you.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm really concerned with this offense. The CUBS have played 2 consecutive games without drawing a single base on balls. That hasn't happened since June of 2005.

 

Over the last 5 games, they are seeing 3.58 P/PA with an IsoD of 0.049, while the league average is approximately 3.75. It's quite prevasive too, not just a few players...........

 

07/12 - 07/20        P   PA  P/PA
Theriot             95   24  3.96
DeRosa              83   21  3.95
D Lee               88   23  3.83
Soto                72   19  3.79
Fontenot            67   18  3.72
Edmonds             54   15  3.60
Fukudome            71   20  3.55
Ward                14    4  3.50
Ramirez             77   23  3.35
Johnson             33   10  3.30
Blanco               7    3  2.33
Cedeno               5    3  1.67

CUBS               708  198  3.58

 

We seem to have our old free swinging feast or famine offense back.... and adding Soriano to this bunch is only going make it worse. What happened to that patient bunch of hitters that lead the league in runs scored ???

 

Fukudome doing well and tkaing a lot of pitches...so does the rest of the team.

 

Fukudome starts getting behind in counts and hacking...so does the rest of the team.

 

Not saying that is the case, but it's odd.

[UMFan83]

So much for that. That would've worked much better right under E.J.'s post.

 

4-day timeout for you.

 

For real? Are you going to ban people for saying Theodore Lilly too? :lol:

 

Edit: Oh wait, my sarcasm meter is off.

Edited July 21, 2008 by UMFan83

[WTFCUBS]

So much for that. That would've worked much better right under E.J.'s post.

 

4-day timeout for you.

 

*Throws base, kicks hat*

[UMFan83]

I'm really concerned with this offense. The CUBS have played 2 consecutive games without drawing a single base on balls. That hasn't happened since June of 2005.

 

Over the last 5 games, they are seeing 3.58 P/PA with an IsoD of 0.049, while the league average is approximately 3.75. It's quite prevasive too, not just a few players...........

 

07/12 - 07/20        P   PA  P/PA
Theriot             95   24  3.96
DeRosa              83   21  3.95
D Lee               88   23  3.83
Soto                72   19  3.79
Fontenot            67   18  3.72
Edmonds             54   15  3.60
Fukudome            71   20  3.55
Ward                14    4  3.50
Ramirez             77   23  3.35
Johnson             33   10  3.30
Blanco               7    3  2.33
Cedeno               5    3  1.67

CUBS               708  198  3.58

 

We seem to have our old free swinging feast or famine offense back.... and adding Soriano to this bunch is only going make it worse. What happened to that patient bunch of hitters that lead the league in runs scored ???

 

Ramirez has treaded back to his normal BB levels since early June, Lee has not been walking at a good rate (for him) all year, Fukudome seems to be getting squeezed and getting no close calls at the dish and is just slumping in general, Soto hasn't been walking that much since May.

 

The Cubs team OBP has gone down every month this year. I don't think they are 2006 Cubs levels here, but they aren't going to be like April and May again.

[Fred Hornkohl]

 

The Cubs team OBP has gone down every month this year. I don't think they are 2006 Cubs levels here, but they aren't going to be like April and May again.

 

A little too close for comfort, I'd say.......

 

                   AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
CUBS July 08      515   66  134   28    4   16  218   60   45  124  0.260  0.325  0.423  0.748
CUBS in 2006     5587  716 1497  271   46  166 2358  677  395  928  0.268  0.319  0.422  0.741

[PrimeTime]

I read that before yesterday's game they didn't take batting practice..It seems they don't hit when getting practice and Fukudome changed his pregame routine..Just stick whatever they all did yesterday since it seems to work.

[CubinNY]

I think that the couple of weeks of games are a not indicative of much (outside of the 9 walk game). The pitchers the Cubs have faced have been throwing strikes for the most part. Aside from Fukudome, they're just going through a stretch where the pitchers they've faced having been getting ahead in the count.

[David]

Guys, I'm not really banned, guys.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Guys, I'm not really banned, guys.

 

Yet. :twisted:

[Little Slide Rooter]

This is snipped from MLB.com, from after the Mesa game, so unless Lou is planning to surprise everyone, it looks like Adolpho will be finishing his rehab assignment as planned.

 

Soriano will likely play two games in Tucson, where the Iowa Cubs are playing, before rejoining the Cubs at Wrigley Field on Thursday against the Marlins.

 

[David]

I can't wait to see Harden pitch again...

 

I haven't gotten this geeked about watching a Cubs pitcher take his rotation turn in, oh, 4-5 years or so.

[Andy]

I can't wait to see Harden pitch again...

 

I haven't gotten this geeked about watching a Cubs pitcher take his rotation turn in, oh, 4-5 years or so.

5. Mark Prior 2003, until Bob Gibson gets reincarnated, is likely to be the standard by which I measure all successful seasons by a Cubs starting pitcher.

 

Hopefully Harden is as masterful as he was a week ago.

[BigSlick]

How are we going to lose this game? I'm sure we will I'm just trying to figure out how.

[David]

I can't wait to see Harden pitch again...

 

I haven't gotten this geeked about watching a Cubs pitcher take his rotation turn in, oh, 4-5 years or so.

5. Mark Prior 2003, until Bob Gibson gets reincarnated, is likely to be the standard by which I measure all successful seasons by a Cubs starting pitcher.

 

Hopefully Harden is as masterful as he was a week ago.

 

 

Same. I remember thinking of Prior as some kind of dominant pitching machine that was just completely flawless.

[David]

How are we going to lose this game? I'm sure we will I'm just trying to figure out how.

 

We tried pretty damn hard in Harden's last start. Couldn't quite get there, though.

[killthegoat06]

http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=mlb&id=2455

 

"It sounds like (eyre) will return on Monday."

[Guest]

For those who don't wander into the minor league forum:

 

http://thecubreporter.com/2008/07/21/soriano-plays-peoria

 

AZ Phil on Soriano.

 

Here is the pitch-by-pitch log of Soriano's three at-bats this morning in Peoria.

 

(All three ABs were against AZL Padres RHP Junior Veras).

 

1ST AB (leading off 1st inning):

PITCH 1: Ball one (fastball up & in, chin music)

PITCH 2: Ball two (fastball up)

PITCH 3: Strike one (called, right down the middle of the plate)

PITCH 4: Strike two (fouled straight back)

PITCH 5: Ball in play (lazy fly ball caught by right-fielder in front of warning track in straight-away RF)

 

OUTCOME: F-9

 

2ND AB (leading off 3rd inning):

PITCH 1: Strike one (right down the middle of the plate)

PITCH 2; Strike two (fouled straight back)

PITCH 3: Foul (line drive hooked into LF bullpen)

PITCH 4: Ball one (outside)

PITCH 5: Foul (fouled straight back)

PITCH 6: Foul (line drive hooked into LF bullpen)

PITCH 7: Strike three (swing & miss, breaking ball in dirt)

 

OUTCOME: Strike out (swinging)

 

3RD AB (leading off 5th inning):

PITCH 1: Strike one (pop foul over 1st base dugout)

PITCH 2: Strike two (swing & miss, breaking ball in dirt)

PITCH 3: Ball one (high fastbal)

PITCH 4: Ball two (breaking ball outside)

PITCH 5: Ball three (fastball up)

PITCH 6: Ball four (fastball outside)

 

OUTCOME: Walked, and then scored on a two-run HR by the next batter, Starlin Castro.

 

Generally, Soriano looked somewhat rusty and his timing was a bit off, but at least he did get to face some "live" pitching in a game action setting.

[Bruno7481]

How are we going to lose this game? I'm sure we will I'm just trying to figure out how.

 

Well, usually all it takes is facing Randy Johnson.

 

His numbers lifetime against the Cubs:

 

12-0

1.98 ERA

95.2 IP

138 K

[CubsNSkers07]

boy am I glad mlb extra innings has a free trial through the 23rd!

[Vinestal]

How are we going to lose this game? I'm sure we will I'm just trying to figure out how.

 

It wont be hard, we wont score any runs and Harden will only go 5 or 6 innings, then the Bulpen will allow 3 or 4 runs.

[XZero771679666304]

I can't wait to see Harden pitch again...

 

I haven't gotten this geeked about watching a Cubs pitcher take his rotation turn in, oh, 4-5 years or so.

 

 

I couldn't see the first one, and living in NM, the Chicago telecast is going to be blacked out on EI. I better get to at least see the Arizona telecast, or I am going to be peeved.