Lou Pinella, What the hell are you doing?

[SouthSideRyan]

What's Piniella's career winning percentage? It isn't bad, but I don't think it shows he unquestionably knows what he is doing either.

 

1,627-1,512. That's a .518 winning percentage.

 

If you remove the Tampa Bay years, which were some of the worst teams ever assembled, his winning percentage goes to .538.

 

What's Dusty Baker's? And make sure to remove the '06 Cubs cause that was a horrendous team.

[Tyrant]

What's Piniella's career winning percentage? It isn't bad, but I don't think it shows he unquestionably knows what he is doing either.

 

1,627-1,512. That's a .518 winning percentage.

 

If you remove the Tampa Bay years, which were some of the worst teams ever assembled, his winning percentage goes to .538.

 

What's Dusty Baker's? And make sure to remove the '06 Cubs cause that was a horrendous team.

 

HAHAHA.

[Soul]

I'm not going to fall into that "we're winning so the manager must be good" trap again (hello Dusty in '03). But still, there are some things I think Lou has done well, which Dusty would never have done. One of those is somehow managing to get this ballclub taking more pitches and getting on base more. I don't really know how he did this, but it's pretty evident on the field, at least right now.

 

I also like how Lou is more willing to make changes. He still inexplicably doesn't play some guys when I think he should, but I think he's at least slightly better than Dusty in that regard. I really doubt Lou would have played Neifi for months & months, for example.

 

Still, none of that means he's beyond criticism. I have yet to find the manager who wouldn't piss me off at times, so I'm trying to be as balanced about it as I can.

[TruffleShuffle]

keep in mind that jim edmonds' imminent presence on this team will be 90% the fault of lou.

[Soul]

keep in mind that jim edmonds' imminent presence on this team will be 90% the fault of lou.

 

Seeing Edmonds take the field in Cubbie blue might make me throw up in my mouth.

[Tracer Bullet]

apparently putting theriot and soto in places they can excel means "in the starting lineup"

 

I'll be thrilled if Theriot keeps this up, but nothing in his history suggests that he will. So let's not go too far.

[CuseCubFan69]

keep in mind that jim edmonds' imminent presence on this team will be 90% the fault of lou.

 

Seeing Edmonds take the field in Cubbie blue might make me throw up in my mouth.

 

Wait until you see the hot new red shoes he bought to match his Cub uniform.

[TruffleShuffle]

apparently putting theriot and soto in places they can excel means "in the starting lineup"

 

I'll be thrilled if Theriot keeps this up, but nothing in his history suggests that he will. So let's not go too far.

 

that he will keep hitting .330? no, i don't think you'll get an argument there. can he get on base at a .350 or (outside chance) .360 clip? i can buy that.

[ronsanto10]

yeah...lou is a moron...the cubs deserve being in last place....oh...wait...the cubs are in FIRST place....never mind...... :oops:

 

So... since the players have covered for Lou's mistakes, he's excused for all of them?

 

 

its easy to "arm chair" manage.....lous record this year, and over his career show that he knows what he is doing...im not trying to be mean, but hey, a win is a win, and if the cubs are in first, to me, im happy about it.....thats all im saying.....

 

So Dusty Baker was a good manager in '03?

 

'03??? Seriously I dont care about that ... I want the cubs to finally win now... So if dusty was good or bad in 2003 means nothing to me now....

[Hairyducked Idiot]

keep in mind that jim edmonds' imminent presence on this team will be 90% the fault of lou.

 

Seeing Edmonds take the field in Cubbie blue might make me throw up in my mouth.

 

He'd improve team patience :)

[Tracer Bullet]

apparently putting theriot and soto in places they can excel means "in the starting lineup"

 

I'll be thrilled if Theriot keeps this up, but nothing in his history suggests that he will. So let's not go too far.

 

that he will keep hitting .330? no, i don't think you'll get an argument there. can he get on base at a .350 or (outside chance) .360 clip? i can buy that.

 

If his OBP is .350-.360 with a SLG similar to where it was last year and mediocre defense, I think you have to question whether it makes sense to continue starting him over Cedeno. Well, you don't have to question it b/c we know where you stand on that, but Lou should (he also won't, but whatever).

[wvcbxl]

keep in mind that jim edmonds' imminent presence on this team will be 90% the fault of lou.

 

I refuse to contemplate such an absurdity before it actually happens

[soapy]

Still waiting for Marquis to get the Rich Hill treatment, Lou.

[Keener98]

Damn, I sure got owned. :good: :^o

[Derwood]

Manager Lou Piniella said Tuesday that Rich Hill will likely remain at Triple-A for at least several more starts.

Hill has a 1.69 ERA and 13/5 K/BB ratio in 10 1/2 innings since his demotion, but Piniella indicated that he needs to do a better job throwing strikes.

 

Lou, lou, lou, lou, lou ](*,)

[TruffleShuffle]

lou is giving dusty a run for his money in the "veteran fetish" department... not to mention the "improper use of his personnel" department.

 

other than that he's doing a bang-up job.

[Tyrant]

Manager Lou Piniella said Tuesday that Rich Hill will likely remain at Triple-A for at least several more starts.

Hill has a 1.69 ERA and 13/5 K/BB ratio in 10 1/2 innings since his demotion, but Piniella indicated that he needs to do a better job throwing strikes.

 

Lou, lou, lou, lou, lou ](*,)

 

Five walks in 10 innings against AAA hitters is not good.

[Soul]

Why can't we try starting Marshall in Marquis' place?

[soapy]

Manager Lou Piniella said Tuesday that Rich Hill will likely remain at Triple-A for at least several more starts.

Hill has a 1.69 ERA and 13/5 K/BB ratio in 10 1/2 innings since his demotion, but Piniella indicated that he needs to do a better job throwing strikes.

 

Lou, lou, lou, lou, lou ](*,)

 

Five walks in 10 innings against AAA hitters is not good.

 

yeah, i don't have a big problem with Hill making a few more starts in AAA. i do have a problem with Marquis continueing to get starts though. he's far worse than Rich, and has been for two years.

[Tyrant]

 

yeah, i don't have a big problem with Hill making a few more starts in AAA. i do have a problem with Marquis continueing to get starts though. he's far worse than Rich, and has been for two years.

 

Yeah, I'd like to see Gallagher stay in the rotation, and Hill take Marquis' spot.

 

Lou sounded last night like he's had enough of Marquis.

[SouthSideRyan]

Why can't we try starting Marshall in Marquis' place?

 

He probably will after a couple more Marquis disasters. Our 2nd best starter will be 8th in line for a starting spot. Awesome.

[soapy]

was anyone else kind of annoyed that Ward was used to pinch-hit for Derosa last night instead of Johnson against the RHP? not a big deal, but it didn't make sense to me.

[apete6]

was anyone else kind of annoyed that Ward was used to pinch-hit for Derosa last night instead of Johnson against the RHP? not a big deal, but it didn't make sense to me.

 

Actually, DeRosa had already been removed on a double switch and Ward batted for Wuertz.

 

I would have liked the 9th to go as follows, not that it mattered:

 

Cedeno (PH for Wuertz)

Ward (PH for Johnson)

Fontenot (already in game due to double switch)

[soapy]

was anyone else kind of annoyed that Ward was used to pinch-hit for Derosa last night instead of Johnson against the RHP? not a big deal, but it didn't make sense to me.

 

Actually, DeRosa had already been removed on a double switch and Ward batted for Wuertz.

 

I would have liked the 9th to go as follows, not that it mattered:

 

Cedeno (PH for Wuertz)

Ward (PH for Johnson)

Fontenot (already in game due to double switch)

 

you're right. i'd forgotten about that. still not sure why Johnson was facing the RHP in that situation though.

[Mizzou]

Manager Lou Piniella said Tuesday that Rich Hill will likely remain at Triple-A for at least several more starts.

Hill has a 1.69 ERA and 13/5 K/BB ratio in 10 1/2 innings since his demotion, but Piniella indicated that he needs to do a better job throwing strikes.

 

Lou, lou, lou, lou, lou ](*,)

He does need to throw more strikes. I don't remember the exact numbers, but in his last start he threw around 90 pitches and around half of them were balls. That's just not acceptable, and you can't expect the Cubs to call him back up after that.