Heard a Rumor: Cubs Interested in Crisp

[Bruce Miles]

Bump.

 

From what I've been told, the Cubs still aren't all that wild about Crisp, but they may have to explore it because other GMs are reluctant to talk trade. Why, who knows? But if something along this lines happens, the Cubs would have to move a similar contract to Boston. This would NOT be a precursor to trading Pie and/or "upgrading" at SS or starting pitching. The Cubs are committed to Theriot at SS, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cedeno gets consideration to start if he has a strong spring (provided he's not traded).

 

TY Bruce!

 

Any updates on what Jim's up to?

 

Just what you've read this week: Seeing if they can get something done (or started) with Baltimore and looking for a little insurance in center field.

[Soul]

The Cubs are committed to Theriot at SS

 

See? Doesn't matter what we know to be the case, the Cubs will start Theriot at SS until it gets through their thick skulls he's not the best option. That could be months! ARgh!

Edited February 15, 2008 by Soul

[UMFan83]

Bump.

 

From what I've been told, the Cubs still aren't all that wild about Crisp, but they may have to explore it because other GMs are reluctant to talk trade. Why, who knows? But if something along this lines happens, the Cubs would have to move a similar contract to Boston. This would NOT be a precursor to trading Pie and/or "upgrading" at SS or starting pitching. The Cubs are committed to Theriot at SS, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cedeno gets consideration to start if he has a strong spring (provided he's not traded).

 

Thanks for the update Bruce. Sounds like Roberts to the Cubs talk is just not progressing much and Hendry doesn't want this team to goto camp as is (although I'd assumed he'd be ok with it if that were the case)

[Roast]

Bump.

 

From what I've been told, the Cubs still aren't all that wild about Crisp, but they may have to explore it because other GMs are reluctant to talk trade. Why, who knows? But if something along this lines happens, the Cubs would have to move a similar contract to Boston. This would NOT be a precursor to trading Pie and/or "upgrading" at SS or starting pitching. The Cubs are committed to Theriot at SS, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cedeno gets consideration to start if he has a strong spring (provided he's not traded).

Committed to theriot. yuck.

 

Thanks for the update!

[Post Count Padder]

Thanks for the update Bruce

[haubrich91]

I think this thread is going to be over 200 pages.

 

Thanks for the update, Bruce

[Post Count Padder]

Asked Thursday about who will start for the Red Sox in center field, manager Terry Francona replied "I don't know" before adding that "we're not going to forget as an organization that [Coco Crisp] is the incumbent."

 

It's been assumed in many circles that Crisp would be traded to make room for Jacoby Ellsbury, but it's possible that the Red Sox could use the beginning of the season to showcase Crisp for a deal while delaying Ellsbury's service-time clock at Triple-A. Crisp has indicated that he'd be unhappy in a reserve role, seemingly making it unlikely that both players will begin the season on the roster together.

Source: Boston Herald

[HoopsCubs]

this is completely fabricated, but w/e

 

its something i like well enough to overlook that part of it

 

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/kctigers23/StampofApprovalSmall.png

 

Meph,

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

[Rob]

this is completely fabricated, but w/e

 

its something i like well enough to overlook that part of it

 

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/kctigers23/StampofApprovalSmall.png

 

Meph,

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

1 pt. for Hoops.

[BigbadB]

Asked Thursday about who will start for the Red Sox in center field, manager Terry Francona replied "I don't know" before adding that "we're not going to forget as an organization that [Coco Crisp] is the incumbent."

 

It's been assumed in many circles that Crisp would be traded to make room for Jacoby Ellsbury, but it's possible that the Red Sox could use the beginning of the season to showcase Crisp for a deal while delaying Ellsbury's service-time clock at Triple-A. Crisp has indicated that he'd be unhappy in a reserve role, seemingly making it unlikely that both players will begin the season on the roster together.

Source: Boston Herald

 

The bolded section should set off alarms, bells, whistles and red flags.

 

Just say no!

 

Let the kid play!

[Post Count Padder]

this is completely fabricated, but w/e

 

its something i like well enough to overlook that part of it

 

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/kctigers23/StampofApprovalSmall.png

 

Meph,

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

1 pt. for Hoops.

[Backtobanks]

this is completely fabricated, but w/e

 

its something i like well enough to overlook that part of it

 

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/kctigers23/StampofApprovalSmall.png

 

Meph,

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

1 pt. for Hoops.

 

Those of us that have posted on this site for years know it's more like 1000 pts. for Hoops.

[17 Seconds]

Bump.

 

From what I've been told, the Cubs still aren't all that wild about Crisp, but they may have to explore it because other GMs are reluctant to talk trade. Why, who knows? But if something along this lines happens, the Cubs would have to move a similar contract to Boston. This would NOT be a precursor to trading Pie and/or "upgrading" at SS or starting pitching. The Cubs are committed to Theriot at SS, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cedeno gets consideration to start if he has a strong spring (provided he's not traded).

 

TY Bruce!

 

Any updates on what Jim's up to?

 

Just what you've read this week: Seeing if they can get something done (or started) with Baltimore and looking for a little insurance in center field.

 

Bruce, I remember a week or 2 ago you said that the odds of a Roberts trade getting done were "50-50 at best". It certainly sounds like the chances of anything happening with Baltimore has decreased quite a bit. Does it seem at all likely that something could get done?

[Illini Iceman]

this is completely fabricated, but w/e

 

its something i like well enough to overlook that part of it

 

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/kctigers23/StampofApprovalSmall.png

 

Meph,

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

Your source said the Cubs had solid interest in Crisp and Bruce Miles did not support that at all. He said the Cubs were not particularly interested because they don't want to block Colvin and Pie and that they don't consider Crisp much of an upgrade. Only now does he say they "may have to explore it" out of desperation.

 

Personally I find your contributions interesting, but I think based on what Bruce has brought to the table your source here was off about the level of Cubs interest.

[Productive Outs]

this is completely fabricated, but w/e

 

its something i like well enough to overlook that part of it

 

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f189/kctigers23/StampofApprovalSmall.png

 

Meph,

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

1 pt. for Hoops.

 

Those of us that have posted on this site for years know it's more like 1000 pts. for Hoops.

 

 

yes, let us bow down and worship at the feet of the almighty HoopsCubs

[Mephistopheles]

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

I'm sorry.. your "sources" called the Choi Lee trade. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Cubs were interested in upgrading the slop from 03 at 1B. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Marlins were cleaning house. I mean even Peter Gammons said it was a possibility days before it went down, but you and your "sources" came up with it. My ass.

 

My god don't play semantic games with me. There "may be some discussion." This is similar to me saying that the Cubs are discussing the potential profit increase by raising ticket prices. Yeah, it may or may not be going on. There may be discussion is even an understatement of what miles said. He said lukewarm, at best. To be lukewarm is to be indifferent. To have solid interest is not to be indifferent. so yeah... miles pretty much said you were wrong.

 

 

not to mention every other "rumor" you have ever come up with is either A: written on the wall, B: already known, or C: too dumb to be true. So you're 1 for 1000.

 

Outstanding. Keep em coming. And please dont ever analyze a thing about baseball, mmkay pumpkin? besides i trust my sources more than i do yours. then again i dont leak my inside information

[WrigleyinEngland]

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

I'm sorry.. your "sources" called the Choi Lee trade. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Cubs were interested in upgrading the slop from 03 at 1B. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Marlins were cleaning house. I mean even Peter Gammons said it was a possibility days before it went down, but you and your "sources" came up with it. My ass.

 

My god don't play semantic games with me. There "may be some discussion." This is similar to me saying that the Cubs are discussing the potential profit increase by raising ticket prices. Yeah, it may or may not be going on. There may be discussion is even an understatement of what miles said. He said lukewarm, at best. To be lukewarm is to be indifferent. To have solid interest is not to be indifferent. so yeah... miles pretty much said you were wrong.

 

 

not to mention every other "rumor" you have ever come up with is either A: written on the wall, B: already known, or C: too dumb to be true. So you're 1 for 1000.

 

Outstanding. Keep em coming. And please dont ever analyze a thing about baseball, mmkay pumpkin? besides i trust my sources more than i do yours. then again i dont leak my inside information

 

I have a girlfriend who's behavior once a month reminds me of this post...................

[seanimal]

mmkay pumpkin?

 

I would have left that part out. It totally didn't fit in with the rest of it.

[Derwood]

methinks Meph is heading for a short vacation

[TruffleShuffle]

methinks Meph is heading for a short vacation

 

i hope you're right... well except for the "short" part anyway

 

and please, let's not avoid trades because we're afraid of "blocking colvin." block him. forever.

[RynoRules]

If you cannot understand that Hoops qualifies his inside info by labeling it as "chatter" or "rumor", then you need a first grade level reading comprehension class.

[TheDude]

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

I'm sorry.. your "sources" called the Choi Lee trade. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Cubs were interested in upgrading the slop from 03 at 1B. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Marlins were cleaning house. I mean even Peter Gammons said it was a possibility days before it went down, but you and your "sources" came up with it. My ass.

 

My god don't play semantic games with me. There "may be some discussion." This is similar to me saying that the Cubs are discussing the potential profit increase by raising ticket prices. Yeah, it may or may not be going on. There may be discussion is even an understatement of what miles said. He said lukewarm, at best. To be lukewarm is to be indifferent. To have solid interest is not to be indifferent. so yeah... miles pretty much said you were wrong.

 

 

not to mention every other "rumor" you have ever come up with is either A: written on the wall, B: already known, or C: too dumb to be true. So you're 1 for 1000.

 

Outstanding. Keep em coming. And please dont ever analyze a thing about baseball, mmkay pumpkin? besides i trust my sources more than i do yours. then again i dont leak my inside information

 

You're absurd. You may know a thing or two about statistical analysis, but you know bunk about business, particularly the business of baseball. Stick to your corner.

[Magnetic Curses]

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

I'm sorry.. your "sources" called the Choi Lee trade. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Cubs were interested in upgrading the slop from 03 at 1B. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Marlins were cleaning house. I mean even Peter Gammons said it was a possibility days before it went down, but you and your "sources" came up with it. My ass.

 

My god don't play semantic games with me. There "may be some discussion." This is similar to me saying that the Cubs are discussing the potential profit increase by raising ticket prices. Yeah, it may or may not be going on. There may be discussion is even an understatement of what miles said. He said lukewarm, at best. To be lukewarm is to be indifferent. To have solid interest is not to be indifferent. so yeah... miles pretty much said you were wrong.

 

 

not to mention every other "rumor" you have ever come up with is either A: written on the wall, B: already known, or C: too dumb to be true. So you're 1 for 1000.

 

Outstanding. Keep em coming. And please dont ever analyze a thing about baseball, mmkay pumpkin? besides i trust my sources more than i do yours. then again i dont leak my inside information

 

eleventy million points for meph. that's a fatality right there.

[UMFan83]

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

I'm sorry.. your "sources" called the Choi Lee trade. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Cubs were interested in upgrading the slop from 03 at 1B. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Marlins were cleaning house. I mean even Peter Gammons said it was a possibility days before it went down, but you and your "sources" came up with it. My ass.

 

My god don't play semantic games with me. There "may be some discussion." This is similar to me saying that the Cubs are discussing the potential profit increase by raising ticket prices. Yeah, it may or may not be going on. There may be discussion is even an understatement of what miles said. He said lukewarm, at best. To be lukewarm is to be indifferent. To have solid interest is not to be indifferent. so yeah... miles pretty much said you were wrong.

 

 

not to mention every other "rumor" you have ever come up with is either A: written on the wall, B: already known, or C: too dumb to be true. So you're 1 for 1000.

 

Outstanding. Keep em coming. And please dont ever analyze a thing about baseball, mmkay pumpkin? besides i trust my sources more than i do yours. then again i dont leak my inside information

 

Are you kidding me? Who cares that one writer's opinion is that the interest was lukewarm. Hoops was still the first person to report that the Cubs had any interest in Crisp. I know part of your gimmick is to rile everyone up, but you are going over the line here. Not that Hoops was correct in personally calling you up and attacking you a few days ago, but you took it too far in your response.

[Magnetic Curses]

16 days ago you accused me and/or my source of fabricating a story. You should know this: I will continue to post rumors from sources, who I believe to be credible based on my history with them regardless of how unreasonable or unrealistic you think the trade scenarios are. I am not in the business of fabrication. I am always very clear on this board differentiating between deals I've heard vs. deals I am suggesting. And considering that Bruce Miles (who I think we can all agree has an absolute stellar reputation for facts in addition to being very generous with his time here), has chimed in twice in the last 7 days that there may have been/may be some discussions going on, at least now I feel good for my source, who you unfairly through under the bus. The information that the 2 teams had or are having discussions was not only credible, it was real and confirmed regardless of what your stamp of approval may or may not think.

 

I'm sorry.. your "sources" called the Choi Lee trade. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Cubs were interested in upgrading the slop from 03 at 1B. I mean everyone and their grandma knew the Marlins were cleaning house. I mean even Peter Gammons said it was a possibility days before it went down, but you and your "sources" came up with it. My ass.

 

My god don't play semantic games with me. There "may be some discussion." This is similar to me saying that the Cubs are discussing the potential profit increase by raising ticket prices. Yeah, it may or may not be going on. There may be discussion is even an understatement of what miles said. He said lukewarm, at best. To be lukewarm is to be indifferent. To have solid interest is not to be indifferent. so yeah... miles pretty much said you were wrong.

 

 

not to mention every other "rumor" you have ever come up with is either A: written on the wall, B: already known, or C: too dumb to be true. So you're 1 for 1000.

 

Outstanding. Keep em coming. And please dont ever analyze a thing about baseball, mmkay pumpkin? besides i trust my sources more than i do yours. then again i dont leak my inside information

 

Are you kidding me? Who cares that one writer's opinion is that the interest was lukewarm. Hoops was still the first person to report that the Cubs had any interest in Crisp. I know part of your gimmick is to rile everyone up, but you are going over the line here. Not that Hoops was correct in personally calling you up and attacking you a few days ago, but you took it too far in your response.

 

he got what he asked for, should have kept his mouth shut. if you're foolish enough to call meph out regarding baseball, i have no sympathy for you.