WSCR Rumor?

[wilk]

I'm just surprised so many people think Hill is as good as Bedard.

 

If we're talking about value, that's another argument. I wouldn't want to trade Hill + others for Bedard because Hill is under our control for so long, but Bedard was a lot better than Hill using any metric out there. But if, like someone else mentioned, we're just talking about who is a better pitcher, it seems clear it's Bedard.

 

 

Hint: look at more than 2007.

 

But why are you convinced Bedard's 2007 is that far off what he can put up again? I don't believe he's traded here, but especially in the NL Central? In the small sample we have, 70 innings, Bedard has a 1.93 ERA, 1.06 WHIP and 87 strikeouts against NL teams. He significantly cut his BAA because of increased strikeouts and a better defense (his BABIP dropped to .295, Hill's was .280). I think his strikeout increase was legit and while it's not going to be the same rate as 2007 - coupled with his ability to induce flyball outs, which is at least as sustainable as Hill's, and a better defense will definitely keep him in the same ballpark. He's significantly improved every year and all of it can be accounted for. He may not be that dominating but I think he'll be closer to his 2007 than his 2006 in 2008.

 

Also to note, his fielding independent pitching was 3.15 (vs. 3.16) in 2007 and Hill's was 4.28 (vs. 3.92).

[RammyFanny]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

[RynoRules]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

[mdwilla]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

[CUBZ99]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

I would definitely not trade Murton unless the Cubs got great value for him. Murton would be a terrific insurance policy in case Soriano or Fukudome get hurt. Hendry shouldn't be trying to accomodate anybody, except the Cubs.

[Backtobanks]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

You can't help but wonder how well the Cubs would have done last year if they would have used Murton in LF and Soriano in RF. That move and moving Soriano down in the batting order might have saved a whole bunch of money this offseason. We'll never know.

[JeffH]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

This seems less likely with the Orioles' acquisition of Luke Scott.

[Backtobanks]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

This seems less likely with the Orioles' acquisition of Luke Scott.

 

The Orioles might use the Murton/Scott platoon that some of us hinted at (for the Cubs). If they do it will probably end up .290, 30 hrs, 100 rbi, .375 obp, .650 slg and cost them $1 million per year.

[Backtobanks]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

This seems less likely with the Orioles' acquisition of Luke Scott.

 

The Orioles might use the Murton/Scott platoon that some of us hinted at (for the Cubs). If they do it will probably end up .290, 30 hrs, 100 rbi, .375 obp, .650 slg and cost them $1 million per year.

[CubColtPacer]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

This seems less likely with the Orioles' acquisition of Luke Scott.

 

The Orioles might use the Murton/Scott platoon that some of us hinted at (for the Cubs). If they do it will probably end up .290, 30 hrs, 100 rbi, .375 obp, .650 slg and cost them $1 million per year.

 

I think you might have had a little misprint on the SLG there :D

[Rob]

Just for fun...

 

Murton's career line vs. LHP:

 

.326/.399/.510

 

Scott's career line vs. RHP:

 

.276/.364/.534

 

Yeah, that'd be a ridiculously good platoon.

[killthegoat06]

So is there any substance to these rumors (Bedard,Burnett) besides the initial WSCR blurb?

[Hosak8]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

[killthegoat06]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

[Hosak8]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF)

 

But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured.

[BigbadB]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF)

 

But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured.

 

You have obviously forgotten that we have Sam Fuld. He can be the CF and the 4th OF at the same time.

[Sammy Sofa]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF)

 

But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured.

 

You have obviously forgotten that we have Sam Fuld. He can be the CF and the 4th OF at the same time.

 

And Pagan and eventually Colvin.

[nolanwood]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF)

 

But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured.

 

Virtually assured? How about this rotation:

 

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Zambrano

Clement

[Hosak8]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF)

 

But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured.

 

You have obviously forgotten that we have Sam Fuld. He can be the CF and the 4th OF at the same time.

 

Screw it... just put Fukudome in CF, and let Zambrano play RF on his off days. He'd hit above Theriot in the order!

[BigbadB]

Screw it... just put Fukudome in CF, and let Zambrano play RF on his off days. He'd hit above Theriot in the order!

 

Deal!

[JimSorgi]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF)

 

But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured.

 

Virtually assured? How about this rotation:

 

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Zambrano

Clement

What are you talking about?

[Andy]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF)

 

But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured.

 

Virtually assured? How about this rotation:

 

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Zambrano

Clement

What are you talking about?

Alluding to the 2004 rotation that was popularly thought good enough to win a pennant by itself.

[JimSorgi]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF)

 

But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured.

 

Virtually assured? How about this rotation:

 

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Zambrano

Clement

What are you talking about?

Alluding to the 2004 rotation that was popularly thought good enough to win a pennant by itself.

Can't we just forget that season ever happened?

[Bull]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

Yeah, it could, though it would empty the farm, and would still leave us short two OF. (A CF and a 4th OF)

 

But, heck, with that rotation, an NL Pennant would seem to be virtually assured.

 

Virtually assured? How about this rotation:

 

Prior

Wood

Maddux

Zambrano

Clement

What are you talking about?

Alluding to the 2004 rotation that was popularly thought good enough to win a pennant by itself.

Can't we just forget that season ever happened?

 

what season?

[nilodnayr]

Don't know where to put it, but on the interview at 5 an intereting thing Hendry said was they view Murton as a LF and will do everything to accomodate him. Sounds like trade. Interview was normal Jimbo though, didn't reply to any of the specifics.

 

Murton really has value. I wish he would play here, but I get why they are dealing him.

 

He'll likely be part of the package that lands Hendry Brian Roberts.

 

I'd prefer him and Gallagher go toward landing us Blanton, and Pie and Hill and EPatt land us Roberts and Bedard, and Dempster and Marshall and Derosa land us Burnett. (Just listing some of the rumors in this thread!)

 

Imagine, if you can...

 

Zambrano

Bedard

Burnett

Lilly

Blanton

 

:shock:

 

=D>

 

\:D/

 

:pig:

:shock: :shock: That could theoretically work.

 

And in another thread we are making fun of the orioles forum...hilarity.

 

Yeah, Beane is just drooling for Murton and Gallagher for Blanton.

Dempster, Marshall, and DeRosa for Burnett??? OMG, we should offer that to the twins for Santana.

 

I thought I've been keeping up with this thread, but I haven't read those as rumors. Not here, not anywhere.