MacPhail: Deal is dead (p. 297), stop posting, go outside

[USSoccer]

For the record, we'd be robbing the Padres in any Pie for Greene deal.

 

The Cubs window to win is right now. Ramirez, Lee and Soriano aren't going to maintain this level of play for much longer. We have jack crap in the minors coming up that's closer than 2 years away.

 

Pie might or might not correct the flaws he has and become a good player. However, we have nothing remotely in our system SS wise like Khalil Greene. As Meph said, Cedeno does not count, because our management don't seem to care for him.

 

We had close to the worst SS production in the league last season. CF was bad, but SS was far, far worse. Happily, Fukudome could play CF, and we're still the frontrunners there. All he costs is money.

 

Thus, the upgrade Greene would provide at SS would blow away anything Pie would give us in CF over what Jones gave us there last season. We'd keep a couple of trading chips in case we want to fill another hole, which also can't be overlooked.

 

Meph said it much more succinctly than I, but he's absolutely correct in saying that giving up Pie for Greene would be a good move.

[Post Count Padder]

Just woke up, what did I miss?

[gflore34]

For the record, we'd be robbing the Padres in any Pie for Greene deal.

 

The Cubs window to win is right now. Ramirez, Lee and Soriano aren't going to maintain this level of play for much longer. We have jack crap in the minors coming up that's closer than 2 years away.

 

Pie might or might not correct the flaws he has and become a good player. However, we have nothing remotely in our system SS wise like Khalil Greene. As Meph said, Cedeno does not count, because our management don't seem to care for him.

 

We had close to the worst SS production in the league last season. CF was bad, but SS was far, far worse. Happily, Fukudome could play CF, and we're still the frontrunners there. All he costs is money.

 

Thus, the upgrade Greene would provide at SS would blow away anything Pie would give us in CF over what Jones gave us there last season. We'd keep a couple of trading chips in case we want to fill another hole, which also can't be overlooked.

 

Meph said it much more succinctly than I, but he's absolutely correct in saying that giving up Pie for Greene would be a good move.

 

To someone with a decent baseball mind yes, this deal makes perfect sense, but, does it make sense to

Jim Hendry?

[ThePenguin11]

If the Cubs acquired Roberts and signed Fukudome, they could have a potential regular lineup of Roberts, Theriot, Derrek Lee, Soriano, Aramis Ramirez, Fukudome, DeRosa and Geovany Soto. They would have speed at the top of the order, Soriano's power in the middle, and a more athletic outfield.

 

Sullivan brings up a good point I hadn't thought about. If we acquire these two, it doesn't rule out DeRosa playing in right field. That looks like a pretty good lineup to me. I might juggle Therio, Fukudome and DeRosa a bit but, it kinda works.

 

Roberts,2B

Fukudome, CF

Lee, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Soriano, LF

Derosa, RF

Theriot, SS

Soto, C

 

This could be a pretty effective lineup. Is DeRosa incapable of playing in RF? I guess that's the question.

[soapy]

If the Cubs acquired Roberts and signed Fukudome, they could have a potential regular lineup of Roberts, Theriot, Derrek Lee, Soriano, Aramis Ramirez, Fukudome, DeRosa and Geovany Soto. They would have speed at the top of the order, Soriano's power in the middle, and a more athletic outfield.

 

Sullivan brings up a good point I hadn't thought about. If we acquire these two, it doesn't rule out DeRosa playing in right field. That looks like a pretty good lineup to me. I might juggle Therio, Fukudome and DeRosa a bit but, it kinda works.

 

Roberts,2B

Fukudome, CF

Lee, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Soriano, LF

Derosa, RF

Theriot, SS

Soto, C

 

This could be a pretty effective lineup. Is DeRosa incapable of playing in RF? I guess that's the question.

Derosa played plenty of RF in Texas, but his bat isn't nearly as valuable there as it is at 2B (or SS).

[Wheelimus]

So, did we trade Pagan, Fontenot, and Marquis for Roberts yet? :D

 

Seriously, for those who want to follow the O's fans discussion (especially if those so called insiders start weighing in) go ahead and register. There's an approval que but you immediately get read only access to the O's forum.

Edited December 6, 2007 by Wheelimus

[ThePenguin11]

If the Cubs acquired Roberts and signed Fukudome, they could have a potential regular lineup of Roberts, Theriot, Derrek Lee, Soriano, Aramis Ramirez, Fukudome, DeRosa and Geovany Soto. They would have speed at the top of the order, Soriano's power in the middle, and a more athletic outfield.

 

Sullivan brings up a good point I hadn't thought about. If we acquire these two, it doesn't rule out DeRosa playing in right field. That looks like a pretty good lineup to me. I might juggle Therio, Fukudome and DeRosa a bit but, it kinda works.

 

Roberts,2B

Fukudome, CF

Lee, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Soriano, LF

Derosa, RF

Theriot, SS

Soto, C

 

This could be a pretty effective lineup. Is DeRosa incapable of playing in RF? I guess that's the question.

Derosa played plenty of RF in Texas, but his bat isn't nearly as valuable there as it is at 2B (or SS).

 

Maybe the lack of power leaves something to be desired, but I think there's something to be said for having as many productive guys in your lineup as possible. I'd just like to see more long innings because we make pitchers work and get productive outs when we make outs.

[CuseCubFan69]

If the Cubs acquired Roberts and signed Fukudome, they could have a potential regular lineup of Roberts, Theriot, Derrek Lee, Soriano, Aramis Ramirez, Fukudome, DeRosa and Geovany Soto. They would have speed at the top of the order, Soriano's power in the middle, and a more athletic outfield.

 

Sullivan brings up a good point I hadn't thought about. If we acquire these two, it doesn't rule out DeRosa playing in right field. That looks like a pretty good lineup to me. I might juggle Therio, Fukudome and DeRosa a bit but, it kinda works.

 

Roberts,2B

Fukudome, CF

Lee, 1B

Ramirez, 3B

Soriano, LF

Derosa, RF

Theriot, SS

Soto, C

 

This could be a pretty effective lineup. Is DeRosa incapable of playing in RF? I guess that's the question.

Derosa played plenty of RF in Texas, but his bat isn't nearly as valuable there as it is at 2B (or SS).

 

Maybe the lack of power leaves something to be desired, but I think there's something to be said for having as many productive guys in your lineup as possible. I'd just like to see more long innings because we make pitchers work and get productive outs when we make outs.

 

I think you could plug Pie into CF to sub also or even start a lot of games.

[TruffleShuffle]

Just woke up, what did I miss?

[E.J.]

Just woke up, what did I miss?

 

Apparently, we missed pictures of kittens and sea lions. Any actual news about this trade?

[Rob]

Just woke up, what did I miss?

 

Apparently, we missed pictures of kittens and sea lions. Any actual news about this trade?

 

The last update was the Baltimore writer saying there was a "significant offer" on the table, and it might include Gallagher and Murton. That was around 10 last night, IIRC.

[WolvCub 17]

Morning everybody. Through reading all the media reports, here is what I've learned about pending Cubs transactions:

 

1. The Cubs' rumored offer to Fukudome is 3 years 45 million. If this is true, there is no way the Padres will match considering Bruce Levine reported the Padres are in at 40 million over 4 years. Source: japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kfukudome

 

2. The Cubs have an offer on the table for Brian Roberts and the Orioles are kicking the tires on Tadahito Iguchi to replace Roberts. Bruce Levine reported last night that Ronny Cedeno is the only player he could confirm is in the Cubs' trade offer. Cedeno would become the ss of the future because the Orioles plan on moving Tejada. There is also a pitcher and an outfielder included in the offer. The pitcher is believed to be either Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. It is definitely NOT Rich Hill (U of M alumn). Steve Phillips backed off his erroneous report. The outfielder in the package is most likely Matt Murton.

 

3. The Cubs are still dangling Prior. Buster Olney reported yesterday that the Rangers are in the lead on that one with the Padres and Reds closely behind. If I'm Hendry, the only way Dusty gets his hands on Prior is if Josh Hamilton's coming back. Can't take the risk in the division.

 

4. Bruce Levine is still reporting that the Cubs have interest in Mark Teahan of the Royals. Once again, Matt Murton and Jake Fox (U of M alumn) are the two most common names bandied about in that deal.

 

That's all I've heard. Everyone have a great day. :D

[E.J.]

Morning everybody. Through reading all the media reports, here is what I've learned about pending Cubs transactions:

 

1. The Cubs' rumored offer to Fukudome is 3 years 45 million. If this is true, there is no way the Padres will match considering Bruce Levine reported the Padres are in at 40 million over 4 years. Source: japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kfukudome

 

2. The Cubs have an offer on the table for Brian Roberts and the Orioles are kicking the tires on Tadahito Iguchi to replace Roberts. Bruce Levine reported last night that Ronny Cedeno is the only player he could confirm is in the Cubs' trade offer. Cedeno would become the ss of the future because the Orioles plan on moving Tejada. There is also a pitcher and an outfielder included in the offer. The pitcher is believed to be either Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. It is definitely NOT Rich Hill (U of M alumn). Steve Phillips backed off his erroneous report. The outfielder in the package is most likely Matt Murton.

 

3. The Cubs are still dangling Prior. Buster Olney reported yesterday that the Rangers are in the lead on that one with the Padres and Reds closely behind. If I'm Hendry, the only way Dusty gets his hands on Prior is if Josh Hamilton's coming back. Can't take the risk in the division.

 

4. Bruce Levine is still reporting that the Cubs have interest in Mark Teahan of the Royals. Once again, Matt Murton and Jake Fox (U of M alumn) are the two most common names bandied about in that deal.

 

That's all I've heard. Everyone have a great day. :D

 

Welcome to the Forum!!

 

We can always use more U of M fans on here. :P

 

It's funny to me that the rumors went from Hill and Pie for Roberts to Gallagher, Murton, and Cedeno for Roberts. Gotta love ESPN.

[Banedon]

Holy cow...that's a ton of money for Fukudome.

[CuseCubFan69]

Morning everybody. Through reading all the media reports, here is what I've learned about pending Cubs transactions:

 

1. The Cubs' rumored offer to Fukudome is 3 years 45 million. If this is true, there is no way the Padres will match considering Bruce Levine reported the Padres are in at 40 million over 4 years. Source: japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kfukudome

 

2. The Cubs have an offer on the table for Brian Roberts and the Orioles are kicking the tires on Tadahito Iguchi to replace Roberts. Bruce Levine reported last night that Ronny Cedeno is the only player he could confirm is in the Cubs' trade offer. Cedeno would become the ss of the future because the Orioles plan on moving Tejada. There is also a pitcher and an outfielder included in the offer. The pitcher is believed to be either Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. It is definitely NOT Rich Hill (U of M alumn). Steve Phillips backed off his erroneous report. The outfielder in the package is most likely Matt Murton.

 

3. The Cubs are still dangling Prior. Buster Olney reported yesterday that the Rangers are in the lead on that one with the Padres and Reds closely behind. If I'm Hendry, the only way Dusty gets his hands on Prior is if Josh Hamilton's coming back. Can't take the risk in the division.

 

4. Bruce Levine is still reporting that the Cubs have interest in Mark Teahan of the Royals. Once again, Matt Murton and Jake Fox (U of M alumn) are the two most common names bandied about in that deal.

 

That's all I've heard. Everyone have a great day. :D

 

Thank Woffy!

 

That's a lot of talent for Roberts and a lot of money for Fukedome.

[soapy]

Morning everybody. Through reading all the media reports, here is what I've learned about pending Cubs transactions:

 

1. The Cubs' rumored offer to Fukudome is 3 years 45 million. If this is true, there is no way the Padres will match considering Bruce Levine reported the Padres are in at 40 million over 4 years. Source: japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kfukudome

 

2. The Cubs have an offer on the table for Brian Roberts and the Orioles are kicking the tires on Tadahito Iguchi to replace Roberts. Bruce Levine reported last night that Ronny Cedeno is the only player he could confirm is in the Cubs' trade offer. Cedeno would become the ss of the future because the Orioles plan on moving Tejada. There is also a pitcher and an outfielder included in the offer. The pitcher is believed to be either Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. It is definitely NOT Rich Hill (U of M alumn). Steve Phillips backed off his erroneous report. The outfielder in the package is most likely Matt Murton.

 

3. The Cubs are still dangling Prior. Buster Olney reported yesterday that the Rangers are in the lead on that one with the Padres and Reds closely behind. If I'm Hendry, the only way Dusty gets his hands on Prior is if Josh Hamilton's coming back. Can't take the risk in the division.

 

4. Bruce Levine is still reporting that the Cubs have interest in Mark Teahan of the Royals. Once again, Matt Murton and Jake Fox (U of M alumn) are the two most common names bandied about in that deal.

 

That's all I've heard. Everyone have a great day. :D

 

That is a lot of money on Fukudome. Yikes.

 

Gallager + Cedeno + Murton for Roberts makes sense to me. I hate to see Murton go in that deal, but I could definitely see it happening. I'd probably do it if I were Hendry.

[CuseCubFan69]

Morning everybody. Through reading all the media reports, here is what I've learned about pending Cubs transactions:

 

1. The Cubs' rumored offer to Fukudome is 3 years 45 million. If this is true, there is no way the Padres will match considering Bruce Levine reported the Padres are in at 40 million over 4 years. Source: japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kfukudome

 

2. The Cubs have an offer on the table for Brian Roberts and the Orioles are kicking the tires on Tadahito Iguchi to replace Roberts. Bruce Levine reported last night that Ronny Cedeno is the only player he could confirm is in the Cubs' trade offer. Cedeno would become the ss of the future because the Orioles plan on moving Tejada. There is also a pitcher and an outfielder included in the offer. The pitcher is believed to be either Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. It is definitely NOT Rich Hill (U of M alumn). Steve Phillips backed off his erroneous report. The outfielder in the package is most likely Matt Murton.

 

3. The Cubs are still dangling Prior. Buster Olney reported yesterday that the Rangers are in the lead on that one with the Padres and Reds closely behind. If I'm Hendry, the only way Dusty gets his hands on Prior is if Josh Hamilton's coming back. Can't take the risk in the division.

 

4. Bruce Levine is still reporting that the Cubs have interest in Mark Teahan of the Royals. Once again, Matt Murton and Jake Fox (U of M alumn) are the two most common names bandied about in that deal.

 

That's all I've heard. Everyone have a great day. :D

 

That is a lot of money on Fukudome. Yikes.

 

Gallager + Cedeno + Murton for Roberts makes sense to me. I hate to see Murton go in that deal, but I could definitely see it happening. I'd probably do it if I were Hendry.

 

Now this is how it gets interesting. Would the Cubs have been better off having Matsui and those players or Roberts?

[Banedon]

Morning everybody. Through reading all the media reports, here is what I've learned about pending Cubs transactions:

 

1. The Cubs' rumored offer to Fukudome is 3 years 45 million. If this is true, there is no way the Padres will match considering Bruce Levine reported the Padres are in at 40 million over 4 years. Source: japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kfukudome

 

2. The Cubs have an offer on the table for Brian Roberts and the Orioles are kicking the tires on Tadahito Iguchi to replace Roberts. Bruce Levine reported last night that Ronny Cedeno is the only player he could confirm is in the Cubs' trade offer. Cedeno would become the ss of the future because the Orioles plan on moving Tejada. There is also a pitcher and an outfielder included in the offer. The pitcher is believed to be either Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. It is definitely NOT Rich Hill (U of M alumn). Steve Phillips backed off his erroneous report. The outfielder in the package is most likely Matt Murton.

 

3. The Cubs are still dangling Prior. Buster Olney reported yesterday that the Rangers are in the lead on that one with the Padres and Reds closely behind. If I'm Hendry, the only way Dusty gets his hands on Prior is if Josh Hamilton's coming back. Can't take the risk in the division.

 

4. Bruce Levine is still reporting that the Cubs have interest in Mark Teahan of the Royals. Once again, Matt Murton and Jake Fox (U of M alumn) are the two most common names bandied about in that deal.

 

That's all I've heard. Everyone have a great day. :D

 

That is a lot of money on Fukudome. Yikes.

 

Gallager + Cedeno + Murton for Roberts makes sense to me. I hate to see Murton go in that deal, but I could definitely see it happening. I'd probably do it if I were Hendry.

 

Now this is how it gets interesting. Would the Cubs have been better off having Matsui and those players or Roberts?

 

Depends...if the Cubs still won't play those players, then they're better off having Roberts. If they would have played them, then you can debate.

[soapy]

 

That is a lot of money on Fukudome. Yikes.

 

Gallager + Cedeno + Murton for Roberts makes sense to me. I hate to see Murton go in that deal, but I could definitely see it happening. I'd probably do it if I were Hendry.

 

Now this is how it gets interesting. Would the Cubs have been better off having Matsui and those players or Roberts?

 

Considering Matsui was probably going to get a 3 year deal, this option is probably better. There's a good chance that none of those three are going to make any impact with the Cubs anyway (considering the management).

 

Derosa could play RF in a worst-case scenario. Also, you could always pursue a Pie for K. Greene deal mentioned in the other thread.

[CuseCubFan69]

Morning everybody. Through reading all the media reports, here is what I've learned about pending Cubs transactions:

 

1. The Cubs' rumored offer to Fukudome is 3 years 45 million. If this is true, there is no way the Padres will match considering Bruce Levine reported the Padres are in at 40 million over 4 years. Source: japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kfukudome

 

2. The Cubs have an offer on the table for Brian Roberts and the Orioles are kicking the tires on Tadahito Iguchi to replace Roberts. Bruce Levine reported last night that Ronny Cedeno is the only player he could confirm is in the Cubs' trade offer. Cedeno would become the ss of the future because the Orioles plan on moving Tejada. There is also a pitcher and an outfielder included in the offer. The pitcher is believed to be either Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. It is definitely NOT Rich Hill (U of M alumn). Steve Phillips backed off his erroneous report. The outfielder in the package is most likely Matt Murton.

 

3. The Cubs are still dangling Prior. Buster Olney reported yesterday that the Rangers are in the lead on that one with the Padres and Reds closely behind. If I'm Hendry, the only way Dusty gets his hands on Prior is if Josh Hamilton's coming back. Can't take the risk in the division.

 

4. Bruce Levine is still reporting that the Cubs have interest in Mark Teahan of the Royals. Once again, Matt Murton and Jake Fox (U of M alumn) are the two most common names bandied about in that deal.

 

That's all I've heard. Everyone have a great day. :D

 

That is a lot of money on Fukudome. Yikes.

 

Gallager + Cedeno + Murton for Roberts makes sense to me. I hate to see Murton go in that deal, but I could definitely see it happening. I'd probably do it if I were Hendry.

 

Now this is how it gets interesting. Would the Cubs have been better off having Matsui and those players or Roberts?

 

Depends...if the Cubs still won't play those players, then they're better off having Roberts. If they would have played them, then you can debate.

 

I see them as filling the bench and making it pretty solid though and Gallagher as being a guy that could come in and give the Cubs some starts as needed. I'm curious on what the Cubs plans are for Pagan.

[The Voice of Reason]

If the O's don't want to trade Roberts until unloading Tejada, then maybe the Cubs should help them out by taking both of them.

 

Angelos is still running the show, I bet he won't let MacPhail trade "the face of the Orioles."

 

http://

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.meetings06dec06,0,2268735.story

 

Angelos has been reluctant in the past to trade Roberts, 30, who said last night that he had knowledge of the trade talks. In an interview with The Sun last week, Roberts sounded hesitant when asked whether he wanted to be part of a rebuilding process that MacPhail is trying to engineer.

 

"Do I want to be a part of a total tear-down and rebuild? I don't know if that was necessarily what I had in mind a couple of years ago," he said.

 

There is some sentiment among Orioles officials to try to unload other veterans first before trying to trade Roberts, who is still two years away from free agency. However, a team source said last night that the club hadn't found a suitable offer for Tejada, despite meeting with several teams yesterday, including the St. Louis Cardinals.

 

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail wouldn't discuss specifics of the possible deal but reiterated he is willing to listen to offers for any of his players, including Roberts, generally viewed as the face of the club.

 

An admirer of Roberts' play on the field and his charitable work off it, owner Peter Angelos nixed a deal last year that would have sent Roberts and pitching prospect Hayden Penn to the Atlanta Braves for first baseman Adam LaRoche and second baseman Marcus Giles.

 

When asked about the possibility of moving Roberts, MacPhail said: "It's what we have said all along. We don't feel that we are in a position where we can rule anyone out. So if someone wants to talk, we listen. And we do what we feel is in the organization's best interests."

[Chocolate Milk]

Morning everybody. Through reading all the media reports, here is what I've learned about pending Cubs transactions:

 

1. The Cubs' rumored offer to Fukudome is 3 years 45 million. If this is true, there is no way the Padres will match considering Bruce Levine reported the Padres are in at 40 million over 4 years. Source: japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kfukudome

 

2. The Cubs have an offer on the table for Brian Roberts and the Orioles are kicking the tires on Tadahito Iguchi to replace Roberts. Bruce Levine reported last night that Ronny Cedeno is the only player he could confirm is in the Cubs' trade offer. Cedeno would become the ss of the future because the Orioles plan on moving Tejada. There is also a pitcher and an outfielder included in the offer. The pitcher is believed to be either Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. It is definitely NOT Rich Hill (U of M alumn). Steve Phillips backed off his erroneous report. The outfielder in the package is most likely Matt Murton.

 

3. The Cubs are still dangling Prior. Buster Olney reported yesterday that the Rangers are in the lead on that one with the Padres and Reds closely behind. If I'm Hendry, the only way Dusty gets his hands on Prior is if Josh Hamilton's coming back. Can't take the risk in the division.

 

4. Bruce Levine is still reporting that the Cubs have interest in Mark Teahan of the Royals. Once again, Matt Murton and Jake Fox (U of M alumn) are the two most common names bandied about in that deal.

 

That's all I've heard. Everyone have a great day. :D

 

Now this is a man who is giving me what I need. Thanks for doing that.

[Backtobanks]

If the O's don't want to trade Roberts until unloading Tejada, then maybe the Cubs should help them out by taking both of them.

Angelos is still running the show, I bet he won't let MacPhail trade "the face of the Orioles."

 

http://

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.meetings06dec06,0,2268735.story

 

Angelos has been reluctant in the past to trade Roberts, 30, who said last night that he had knowledge of the trade talks. In an interview with The Sun last week, Roberts sounded hesitant when asked whether he wanted to be part of a rebuilding process that MacPhail is trying to engineer.

 

"Do I want to be a part of a total tear-down and rebuild? I don't know if that was necessarily what I had in mind a couple of years ago," he said.

 

There is some sentiment among Orioles officials to try to unload other veterans first before trying to trade Roberts, who is still two years away from free agency. However, a team source said last night that the club hadn't found a suitable offer for Tejada, despite meeting with several teams yesterday, including the St. Louis Cardinals.

 

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail wouldn't discuss specifics of the possible deal but reiterated he is willing to listen to offers for any of his players, including Roberts, generally viewed as the face of the club.

 

An admirer of Roberts' play on the field and his charitable work off it, owner Peter Angelos nixed a deal last year that would have sent Roberts and pitching prospect Hayden Penn to the Atlanta Braves for first baseman Adam LaRoche and second baseman Marcus Giles.

 

When asked about the possibility of moving Roberts, MacPhail said: "It's what we have said all along. We don't feel that we are in a position where we can rule anyone out. So if someone wants to talk, we listen. And we do what we feel is in the organization's best interests."

 

I think there has been a lot of reluctance on the Tejada front because many people expect his name to come up on the Mitchell report list.

[rocket]

Morning everybody. Through reading all the media reports, here is what I've learned about pending Cubs transactions:

 

1. The Cubs' rumored offer to Fukudome is 3 years 45 million. If this is true, there is no way the Padres will match considering Bruce Levine reported the Padres are in at 40 million over 4 years. Source: japaneseballplayers.com/en/player.php?id=kfukudome

 

2. The Cubs have an offer on the table for Brian Roberts and the Orioles are kicking the tires on Tadahito Iguchi to replace Roberts. Bruce Levine reported last night that Ronny Cedeno is the only player he could confirm is in the Cubs' trade offer. Cedeno would become the ss of the future because the Orioles plan on moving Tejada. There is also a pitcher and an outfielder included in the offer. The pitcher is believed to be either Sean Marshall or Sean Gallagher. It is definitely NOT Rich Hill (U of M alumn). Steve Phillips backed off his erroneous report. The outfielder in the package is most likely Matt Murton.

 

3. The Cubs are still dangling Prior. Buster Olney reported yesterday that the Rangers are in the lead on that one with the Padres and Reds closely behind. If I'm Hendry, the only way Dusty gets his hands on Prior is if Josh Hamilton's coming back. Can't take the risk in the division.

 

4. Bruce Levine is still reporting that the Cubs have interest in Mark Teahan of the Royals. Once again, Matt Murton and Jake Fox (U of M alumn) are the two most common names bandied about in that deal.

 

That's all I've heard. Everyone have a great day. :D

 

is there any interest still in nick swisher (the big 10 champion ohio st. alumn)?

[ThePenguin11]

If the O's don't want to trade Roberts until unloading Tejada, then maybe the Cubs should help them out by taking both of them.

 

Angelos is still running the show, I bet he won't let MacPhail trade "the face of the Orioles."

 

http://

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.meetings06dec06,0,2268735.story

 

Angelos has been reluctant in the past to trade Roberts, 30, who said last night that he had knowledge of the trade talks. In an interview with The Sun last week, Roberts sounded hesitant when asked whether he wanted to be part of a rebuilding process that MacPhail is trying to engineer.

 

"Do I want to be a part of a total tear-down and rebuild? I don't know if that was necessarily what I had in mind a couple of years ago," he said.

 

There is some sentiment among Orioles officials to try to unload other veterans first before trying to trade Roberts, who is still two years away from free agency. However, a team source said last night that the club hadn't found a suitable offer for Tejada, despite meeting with several teams yesterday, including the St. Louis Cardinals.

 

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail wouldn't discuss specifics of the possible deal but reiterated he is willing to listen to offers for any of his players, including Roberts, generally viewed as the face of the club.

 

An admirer of Roberts' play on the field and his charitable work off it, owner Peter Angelos nixed a deal last year that would have sent Roberts and pitching prospect Hayden Penn to the Atlanta Braves for first baseman Adam LaRoche and second baseman Marcus Giles.

 

When asked about the possibility of moving Roberts, MacPhail said: "It's what we have said all along. We don't feel that we are in a position where we can rule anyone out. So if someone wants to talk, we listen. And we do what we feel is in the organization's best interests."

 

I don't think he nixed the deal because he likes Roberts' charitable work and thinks of him as the face of the team...I think he did it because Giles' career looked to be free-falling (and still does) and Adam LaRoche is 'just a guy'. Compared to one of their best pitching prospects (Penn) and Roberts I don't think you'd find a GM (ours included) that is dumb enough to make that deal. I really don't even understand how that got printed because I can't see anyone on the Orioles ever considering that deal...yet I've seen it in print a few times now.