Cubs-Nationals-Padres?

[Backtobanks]

How about a 3-way deal:

 

Cubs send: Marshall/Marquis to the Nationals; Derosa and Cedeno to the Padres

Nationals send: Ryan Church to the Padres

Padres send: Greene to the Cubs

 

Cubs improve dramatically at SS

Nationals improve pitching

Padres improve offense at CF and 2B with decrease at SS

[jersey cubs fan]

Marshall or Marshall, plus DeRosa and Cedeno for Greene?

 

Yes, that improves SS, but any improvement will most likely be offset by a decrease of production at 2B. What's the point.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Marquis + Cedeno for Greene is too much

[Post Count Padder]

That is A LOT to give up for Greene

[OleMissCub]

Greene's .291 OBP would definitely improve this team.

[Backtobanks]

Marquis + Cedeno for Greene is too much

 

Everybody wants out of Marquis' contract and he's certainly replaceable (Marshall/Gallagher). As for Cedeno, he would be replaced by Greene. The money saved on Marquis' contract could help pay for Fukudome (or some other RF bat). If everybody agrees the Cubs are giving up too much for Greene by including DeRosa, then make it:

Marquis to the Nationals

Greene to the Cubs

Church & Cedeno to the Padres

Edited November 16, 2007 by Backtobanks

[JeffH]

Greene, 2005-2007:

 

Home: .227/.273/.389/.662

Road: .273/.328/.500/.828

 

He's worth putting together a pretty nice package.

[Post Count Padder]

Greene's .291 OBP would definitely improve this team.

He's capable of better. I don't expect anything great, but he could put up an OBP around .320-.340, especially if he gets away from PETCO and hits for average.

[Backtobanks]

Greene, 2005-2007:

 

Home: .227/.273/.389/.662

Road: .273/.328/.500/.828

 

He's worth putting together a pretty nice package.

 

And as an added bonus, if Hendry would hurry up and make the deal, it might stop Hendry from signing Matsui.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm not so sure that I want to put together a sizable package for somebody who's going to OBP .340 if everything turns out right. Thought processes like that are what gave us the 2006 rotation.

[Derwood]

no one wants Marquis. you'd have to pay his entire salary and include other parts

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

How about a 3-way deal:

 

Cubs send: Marshall/Marquis to the Nationals; Derosa and Cedeno to the Padres

Nationals send: Ryan Church to the Padres

Padres send: Greene to the Cubs

 

Cubs improve dramatically at SS

Nationals improve pitching

Padres improve offense at CF and 2B with decrease at SS

 

What a horrible, horrible trade this would be for Cubs. Tell me you can't be serious.

[shnsajax]

If Neifi was our starting SS then I would be all over Greene. Right now he is not enough of an improvement to trade away other pieces to get him. I would not trade Derosa straight up for him to begin with. Cedeno could match his numbers IMO(w/ exception of power), and play a close enough defense. Even if we did get Greene he would still be our #8 hitter.

[JeffH]

Cedeno could match his numbers IMO(w/ exception of power)

 

In other news, Juan Pierre is the same player as Alfonso Soriano (w/ exception of power).

[mul21]

Cedeno could match his numbers IMO(w/ exception of power)

 

In other news, Juan Pierre is the same player as Alfonso Soriano (w/ exception of power).

 

Wow. Excellent comparison. Juan Pierre, who might fall into 1 HR a year and Alfonso Soriano who will typically hit 40+ HR to Cedeno who might hit 10-15 HR vs. Greene who will top out around 25 HR. Bravo. Way to go to an extreme to try to make somebody else look bad. U R awesome.

[Derwood]

Cedeno could match his numbers IMO(w/ exception of power)

 

In other news, Juan Pierre is the same player as Alfonso Soriano (w/ exception of power).

 

Wow. Excellent comparison. Juan Pierre, who might fall into 1 HR a year and Alfonso Soriano who will typically hit 40+ HR to Cedeno who might hit 10-15 HR vs. Greene who will top out around 25 HR. Bravo. Way to go to an extreme to try to make somebody else look bad. U R awesome.

 

 

cedeno might hit 10-15 HR per year? in what universe?

[nilodnayr]

Cedeno could match his numbers IMO(w/ exception of power)

 

In other news, Juan Pierre is the same player as Alfonso Soriano (w/ exception of power).

 

Wow. Excellent comparison. Juan Pierre, who might fall into 1 HR a year and Alfonso Soriano who will typically hit 40+ HR to Cedeno who might hit 10-15 HR vs. Greene who will top out around 25 HR. Bravo. Way to go to an extreme to try to make somebody else look bad. U R awesome.

Yeah, Jeff was moreso making a point than actually comparing the two. Read above.

[jersey cubs fan]

Cedeno could match his numbers IMO(w/ exception of power)

 

In other news, Juan Pierre is the same player as Alfonso Soriano (w/ exception of power).

 

Wow. Excellent comparison. Juan Pierre, who might fall into 1 HR a year and Alfonso Soriano who will typically hit 40+ HR to Cedeno who might hit 10-15 HR vs. Greene who will top out around 25 HR. Bravo. Way to go to an extreme to try to make somebody else look bad. U R awesome.

 

 

cedeno might hit 10-15 HR per year? in what universe?

 

He hit 14 in 2007. 4 in 72 big league at bats, a pace for 27 over 500 at bats. It's a matter of whether or not he can stick in the majors, not whether or not he can hit 10-15 HR in a season.

[JonnyRed]

Since when did Greene become Cal Ripken? That's way to much to give up for a guy who hasn't lived up to expectations.

[abuck1220]

Cedeno could match his numbers IMO(w/ exception of power)

 

In other news, Juan Pierre is the same player as Alfonso Soriano (w/ exception of power).

 

Wow. Excellent comparison. Juan Pierre, who might fall into 1 HR a year and Alfonso Soriano who will typically hit 40+ HR to Cedeno who might hit 10-15 HR vs. Greene who will top out around 25 HR. Bravo. Way to go to an extreme to try to make somebody else look bad. U R awesome.

 

 

cedeno might hit 10-15 HR per year? in what universe?

 

the one we currently live in?

[Derwood]

Cedeno could match his numbers IMO(w/ exception of power)

 

In other news, Juan Pierre is the same player as Alfonso Soriano (w/ exception of power).

 

Wow. Excellent comparison. Juan Pierre, who might fall into 1 HR a year and Alfonso Soriano who will typically hit 40+ HR to Cedeno who might hit 10-15 HR vs. Greene who will top out around 25 HR. Bravo. Way to go to an extreme to try to make somebody else look bad. U R awesome.

 

 

cedeno might hit 10-15 HR per year? in what universe?

 

He hit 14 in 2007. 4 in 72 big league at bats, a pace for 27 over 500 at bats. It's a matter of whether or not he can stick in the majors, not whether or not he can hit 10-15 HR in a season.

 

really, you're going to use 72 AB's plus AAA time in a notoriously hitter friendly PCL as proof? fine, if he hits 15 HR in a season at the majors, you can bring this back up and i'll eat my words

[Ding Dong Johnson]

really, you're going to use 72 AB's plus AAA time in a notoriously hitter friendly PCL as proof? fine, if he hits 15 HR in a season at the majors, you can bring this back up and i'll eat my words

make it interesting -- let him punch you in the jewels or something

[frostwyrm]

How about a 3-way deal:

 

Cubs send: Marshall/Marquis to the Nationals; Derosa and Cedeno to the Padres

Nationals send: Ryan Church to the Padres

Padres send: Greene to the Cubs

 

Cubs improve dramatically at SS

Nationals improve pitching

Padres improve offense at CF and 2B with decrease at SS

 

Why would the Nats do this? Is Marshall really appealing enough to warrant taking on all of Marquis' $16.5M obligation? I don't think so. We'd have to send a bunch of cash to make this happen.

[mul21]

How about a 3-way deal:

 

Cubs send: Marshall/Marquis to the Nationals; Derosa and Cedeno to the Padres

Nationals send: Ryan Church to the Padres

Padres send: Greene to the Cubs

 

Cubs improve dramatically at SS

Nationals improve pitching

Padres improve offense at CF and 2B with decrease at SS

 

Why would the Nats do this? Is Marshall really appealing enough to warrant taking on all of Marquis' $16.5M obligation? I don't think so. We'd have to send a bunch of cash to make this happen.

 

I think that is Marshall OR Marquis, not both, which would make more sense. That's how I read it anyway.