9/13 Cubs (Trachsel) @ Astros (Williams) 7:05 CST CSN WGN720

[jersey cubs fan]

You'd think Soto would get a chance to start one game this series, no? He'd be ideal with those Crawford boxes.

 

I'd be surprised if Soto starts tonight with Kendall being 18 for 38 against Woody Williams in his career with a couple of doubles and a home run.

 

Too bad the good part of his career was a long time ago.

[CubColtPacer]

You'd think Soto would get a chance to start one game this series, no? He'd be ideal with those Crawford boxes.

 

I'd be surprised if Soto starts tonight with Kendall being 18 for 38 against Woody Williams in his career with a couple of doubles and a home run.

 

Too bad the good part of his career was a long time ago.

 

Which one? Kendall or Williams?

 

The point is, it's both, but this is probably one of Kendall's 5 best pitcher matchups in the entire major leagues. It's not the night to sit him.

Edited September 13, 2007 by CubColtPacer

[Warren Brusstar]

You'd think Soto would get a chance to start one game this series, no? He'd be ideal with those Crawford boxes.

 

I'd be surprised if Soto starts tonight with Kendall being 18 for 38 against Woody Williams in his career with a couple of doubles and a home run.

 

Too bad the good part of his career was a long time ago.

 

The part where he's OPSed .771 for the Cubs hasn't been too bad. I'd rather they play Soto too, but it's not like Kendall hasn't been pulling his weight.

[Mephistopheles]

CUBS record vs. opposing pitchers.....

 

Pitcher     Team        Record
Harang      Cincinnati    1-3
Arroyo      Cincinnati    2-1
Dumatrait   Cincinnati    0-1
Williams    Houston       2-2
Gorzelany   Pittsburgh    1-1
Armas       Pittsburgh    1-0
Bullington  Pittsburgh    0-0
Looper      St. Louis     1-2
Wainright   St. Louis     2-1
Piniero     St. Louis     1-0
Mulder      St. Louis     0-0
Willis      Florida       0-1
Mitre       Florida       0-1
Olson       Florida       0-0

              totals    11-13

 

These last 17 games will be uphill all the way !!!

 

what a worthless point. It's a limited sample for all the pitchers and holds absolutely ZERO predicative power.

 

anyways trachsel sucks and will continue to suck as the cubs lose 10-4.

[rawaction]

CUBS record vs. opposing pitchers.....

 

Pitcher     Team        Record
Harang      Cincinnati    1-3
Arroyo      Cincinnati    2-1
Dumatrait   Cincinnati    0-1
Williams    Houston       2-2
Gorzelany   Pittsburgh    1-1
Armas       Pittsburgh    1-0
Bullington  Pittsburgh    0-0
Looper      St. Louis     1-2
Wainright   St. Louis     2-1
Piniero     St. Louis     1-0
Mulder      St. Louis     0-0
Willis      Florida       0-1
Mitre       Florida       0-1
Olson       Florida       0-0

              totals    11-13

 

These last 17 games will be uphill all the way !!!

 

what a worthless point. It's a limited sample for all the pitchers and holds absolutely ZERO predicative power.

 

anyways trachsel sucks and will continue to suck as the cubs lose 10-4.

 

You're big on calling other's posts pointless and generally putting down other people's opinions. Consider this a warning, a vacation is just beyond the horizon.

[hankp101]

Does anyone have the Brewers remaining pitching matchups handy?

[UMFan83]

Wow, last night when I saw the grounder go off first base and into RF, I thought this is the 2007 Brant Brown or Steve Bartman. We usually don't recover from that.

 

Weird that you mentioned we don't usually recover from those types of things, but you also mentioned Brant Brown, which we did recover from.

 

Ah yes, but by losing that game, the Cubs had to use Steve Trachsel (this thread is coming full circle) in the one game playoff prompting Mark Clark, he of a 4.84 ERA that season to start Game 1 of the playoffs.

[TheDude]

Those opposing pitchers that Fred posted do not sound like people we can beat.

You're kidding right? There are no elite names in that list.

Are YOU kidding? The fact that there are no elite teams on that list are exactly why they don't sound like people the Cubs can beat.

 

I'll take my chances every day of the week. Cubs history of ineptitude against average pitching (besides being overblown) doesn't have any bearing on the future games. We have to assume all these pitchers will perform as expected - according to a balance between 2007 overall and 2nd half pace.

 

With an average pitcher you could get ace stuff, you could get 8 runs in 2 innings. However, with the aces the Brewers face, you know what to expect every outing. There is no question this a huge advantage for the Cubs.

 

We're realistically looking for 10-7 the rest of the way, not 17-0. 10-7 should not be a problem against the pitchers projected. For the Brewers to pull off 10-7 against some of the names in their projected - that would be a feat.

[Andy]

How the hell are we in first?

[CubmanPi]

CUBS record vs. opposing pitchers.....

 

Pitcher     Team        Record
Harang      Cincinnati    1-3
Arroyo      Cincinnati    2-1
Dumatrait   Cincinnati    0-1
Williams    Houston       2-2
Gorzelany   Pittsburgh    1-1
Armas       Pittsburgh    1-0
Bullington  Pittsburgh    0-0
Looper      St. Louis     1-2
Wainright   St. Louis     2-1
Piniero     St. Louis     1-0
Mulder      St. Louis     0-0
Willis      Florida       0-1
Mitre       Florida       0-1
Olson       Florida       0-0

              totals    11-13

 

These last 17 games will be uphill all the way !!!

 

what a worthless point. It's a limited sample for all the pitchers and holds absolutely ZERO predicative power.

 

anyways trachsel sucks and will continue to suck as the cubs lose 10-4.

What a worthless post.

 

While the stats are specific to pitchers, the commentary is about the Cubs, whose offensive futility is almost as predictable as your arrogance.

[erik316wttn]

Prediction: Traschel gets bombed, Cubs lose, but we don't see Steve on the mound again in 2007, so it may be worth it.

[Roast]

Anyone else have a feelign this will be a Shawn Estes Shutout like performance?

 

No?

 

Me either, but I can hope.

[badger1679666666]

CUBS record vs. opposing pitchers.....

 

Pitcher     Team        Record
Harang      Cincinnati    1-3
Arroyo      Cincinnati    2-1
Dumatrait   Cincinnati    0-1
Williams    Houston       2-2
Gorzelany   Pittsburgh    1-1
Armas       Pittsburgh    1-0
Bullington  Pittsburgh    0-0
Looper      St. Louis     1-2
Wainright   St. Louis     2-1
Piniero     St. Louis     1-0
Mulder      St. Louis     0-0
Willis      Florida       0-1
Mitre       Florida       0-1
Olson       Florida       0-0

              totals    11-13

 

These last 17 games will be uphill all the way !!!

 

what a worthless point. It's a limited sample for all the pitchers and holds absolutely ZERO predicative power.

 

anyways trachsel sucks and will continue to suck as the cubs lose 10-4.

 

You're big on calling other's posts pointless and generally putting down other people's opinions. Consider this a warning, a vacation is just beyond the horizon.

 

What was wrong with his post? He's right posting those records does hold ZERO predictive power. He didn't insult the poster.

 

Oh and when did Fred start copyrighting his worthless stats?

[YearofDaCubs]

How the hell are we in first?

Because we are in the division that nobody wants to win.

[Omar]

Chicago Cubs Vs. Woody Williams

                    **PA**  AB  H  2B 3B HR RBI  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  
+-----------------+-------+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+
Aramis Ramirez       48    45  14  2  0  2   7   3   7  .311  .354  .489  .843 
Jason Kendall        43    38  18  2  0  1   5   3   2  .474  .535  .605 1.140 
Derrek Lee           41    35  12  3  0  0   7   5   8  .343  .439  .429  .868 
Cliff Floyd          34    31  11  1  0  2   6   3   5  .355  .412  .581  .993 
Daryle Ward          22    21   3  0  0  0   1   1   4  .143  .182  .143  .325 
Alfonso Soriano      18    18   3  1  0  0   0   0   3  .167  .167  .222  .389 
Mark DeRosa          16    16   2  0  0  0   1   0   1  .125  .125  .125  .250 
Jacque Jones         14    13   2  0  0  0   1   1   2  .154  .214  .154  .368 
Henry Blanco          9     8   2  0  0  0   0   1   3  .250  .333  .250  .583 
Ryan Theriot          9     7   1  0  0  0   1   2   1  .143  .333  .143  .476 
Kerry Wood            8     5   0  0  0  0   0   0   3  .000  .000  .000  .000 
Mike Fontenot         6     6   3  1  0  0   0   0   1  .500  .500  .667 1.167 
Ronny Cedeno          5     5   2  0  0  0   0   0   1  .400  .400  .400  .800 
Matt Murton           4     3   1  0  0  0   0   0   0  .333  .500  .333  .833 
Carlos Zambrano       4     4   1  0  0  1   1   0   2  .250  .250 1.000 1.250 
Ryan Dempster         3     3   1  1  0  0   0   0   1  .333  .333  .667 1.000 
Craig Monroe          3     3   1  0  0  0   0   0   0  .333  .333  .333  .666 
Felix Pie             3     2   0  0  0  0   0   1   0  .000  .333  .000  .333 
Rich Hill             2     2   0  0  0  0   0   0   0  .000  .000  .000  .000 
Ted Lilly             2     2   0  0  0  0   0   0   0  .000  .000  .000  .000 
Sean Marshall         2     1   0  0  0  0   0   0   1  .000  .000  .000  .000 
Steve Trachsel        2     2   0  0  0  0   0   0   0  .000  .000  .000  .000 

 

Houston Astros Vs. Steve Trachsel

                    **PA**  AB  H  2B 3B HR RBI  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  
+-----------------+-------+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+
Craig Biggio         59    54  16  3  2  4   8   5   8  .296  .356  .648 1.004 
Mark Loretta         31    28   8  3  0  1   4   1   0  .286  .323  .500  .823 
Brad Ausmus          27    21  10  1  0  2   7   6   4  .476  .593  .810 1.403 
Lance Berkman        16    10   3  0  0  2   2   6   0  .300  .563  .900 1.463 
Orlando Palmeiro     13    13   4  0  0  0   1   0   1  .308  .308  .308  .616 
Carlos Lee           10     9   1  0  0  0   1   1   2  .111  .200  .111  .311 
Mike Lamb             9     8   4  0  0  0   2   1   1  .500  .556  .500 1.056 
Ty Wigginton          4     4   2  0  0  1   2   0   0  .500  .500 1.250 1.750 
Eric Munson           3     3   0  0  0  0   0   0   0  .000  .000  .000  .000 
Humberto Quintero     3     3   1  0  0  0   1   0   1  .333  .333  .333  .666 
Woody Williams        3     3   2  0  0  0   0   0   1  .667  .667  .667 1.334 
Roy Oswalt            2     1   0  0  0  0   1   0   0  .000  .000  .000  .000 
Brian Moehler         1     1   0  0  0  0   0   0   0  .000  .000  .000  .000 
Cody Ransom           1     1   1  0  0  0   0   0   0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000

[inari]

Wow, the Stros annihilate Trax.

[YearofDaCubs]

Wow, the Stros annihilate Trax.

Allowing him to pitch for us against any team is a terrible idea. It's a joke that he's here, it has to be.

[Z38Cubs]

Remember when we beat Woody Williams twice in ONE series? Yea, it would be nice to just beat him once this year. He's owned us. Anyway, I think Trachsel pitches well enough to win and Alfonso has a monster game. Cubs win 9-3.

[SouthSideRyan]

I think Lou saves Steve from himself and pulls him after some mediocre work in the 5th. Offense is gonna need 5 or 6 to win. It's doable.

[VanceJergins]

CUBS record vs. opposing pitchers.....

 

Pitcher     Team        Record
Harang      Cincinnati    1-3
Arroyo      Cincinnati    2-1
Dumatrait   Cincinnati    0-1
Williams    Houston       2-2
Gorzelany   Pittsburgh    1-1
Armas       Pittsburgh    1-0
Bullington  Pittsburgh    0-0
Looper      St. Louis     1-2
Wainright   St. Louis     2-1
Piniero     St. Louis     1-0
Mulder      St. Louis     0-0
Willis      Florida       0-1
Mitre       Florida       0-1
Olson       Florida       0-0

              totals    11-13

 

These last 17 games will be uphill all the way !!!

 

what a worthless point. It's a limited sample for all the pitchers and holds absolutely ZERO predicative power.

 

anyways trachsel sucks and will continue to suck as the cubs lose 10-4.

 

Worthless stats are kind of Fred's thing and he likes to have fun with them....but hey, don't let that stop you from being an ass.

[CubmanPi]

I would just like to express once again that I think it's bullcrap that this wasn't a day game.

[E.J.]

We're going to need to score a minimum of 8 tonight. Let's hope for a bunch of Astro errors.

[CuseCubFan69]

I would just like to express once again that I think it's bullcrap that this wasn't a day game.

 

Why? Isn't it in Houston?

[Bruce Miles]

I would just like to express once again that I think it's bullcrap that this wasn't a day game.

 

No fun for those of us traveling in the morning, either. All get-away games should be day games.

[CubmanPi]

I would just like to express once again that I think it's bullcrap that this wasn't a day game.

 

Why? Isn't it in Houston?

 

I just assumed that getaway day would be a day game, but instead they will be of no help in making the next 45 minutes go by.

 

:resuming clock-watching: