All-Underrated (last 25 yrs)

[haltz]

What about John Olerud?

Olerud was a seriously above-average fielder too, if I remember correctly. That's a good one.

 

How about Darren Daulton? 113 OPS+, and three AS appearances to show for it.

Edited September 4, 2007 by haltz

[JeffH]

Jay Buhner.

[rawaction]

What about John Olerud?

Olerud was a seriously above-average fielder too, if I remember correctly. That's a good one.

 

How about Darren Daulton? 113 OPS+, and three AS appearances to show for it.

 

Olerud was one of the best defensive 1B that I have personally seen.

[TruffleShuffle]

dwight and darrell evans

[SouthSideRyan]

Placido Polanco seems weirdly underrated considering his batting average.

 

And as a bonus he got really good once he left the Cards.

[Pushfrog98]

Placido Polanco seems weirdly underrated considering his batting average.

 

And as a bonus he got really good once he left the Cards.

I was just about to post him...

 

.343 .391 .465 .856

[haltz]

Placido Polanco seems weirdly underrated considering his batting average.

 

And as a bonus he got really good once he left the Cards.

Tom-AY-to, Tom-AH-to, J-EE-ter, Pol-AH-nco

[Transmogrified Tiger]

What about John Olerud?

Olerud was a seriously above-average fielder too, if I remember correctly. That's a good one.

 

How about Darren Daulton? 113 OPS+, and three AS appearances to show for it.

 

Darren Daulton made me think of Gregg Jeffries. Unfortunately, after bringing up his BR page it appears he's more qualified for the "Lucky Cards players" thread than the "most underrated". It also makes me think of "You're a 5, Jeffries! A FIVE!"

 

How about Andy Van Slyke?

[haltz]

Darren Daulton made me think of Gregg Jeffries. Unfortunately, after bringing up his BR page it appears he's more qualified for the "Lucky Cards players" thread than the "most underrated". It also makes me think of "You're a 5, Jeffries! A FIVE!"

I remember that from my Daulton spaceman GRB thread. That Jefferies anecdote never gets old.

 

How about Andy Van Slyke?

Another guy who is underrated considering his defense.

[Backtobanks]

How about Mark Grudzalanek? I always thought that he was underrated.

[BigbadB]

Just for oldcubsfan..........

 

Ben Grieve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

But seriously, right now one of the more underrated players in the game to me is Matt Diaz. Tampa cut him, the Royals picked him up and traded him to Atlanta for a minor leaguer. All the guy has ever done is hit.

 

And you want to tell me that the Kansas City Royals didn't have room in their outfield for a guy like Diaz?

[Mephistopheles]

Extend it 5 years so we can use Gene Tenace.

 

 

Other than that....how many of you knew that Carlos Guillen was better than Derek Jeter?

 

It's been pretty obvious that Guillen is at least his equal, and a cursory look at the numbers tells you Carlos is better.

 

Guillen - 23, 8, 26, 18 WS

Jeter - 26, 26, 33, 20 WS

 

Guillen - 102, 42, 107, 89 RC

Jeter - 99, 106, 138, 97 RC

 

Guillen is underrated for sure but he still hasn't been as valuable as Jeter over the last 4 years partially because of the fact he gets banged up some every year but also because OBP is more valuable than SLG and Jeter has had close to .400 OBP over the past 3 years.

 

 

You are giving credit to Jeter for playing on the Yankees. Good job. Believe me I can shove this down your throat if I wanted to. But I am a changed man, I am going to be nice. The simple fact of the difference in counting stats like that is PA. On a PA basis Guillen's been better for three years. Jeter bats a lot more because of the team/manager he plays for.

[Derwood]

outside of Chicago, i'd say Mark Grace was underrated

 

.383 career OBP and 119 career OPS+ (with seven seasons of 120 or higher)

[NewUserName]

gary redus

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Im just throwing this out, I wonder what everyone thought. Probably just because of his injury problems, but Larry Walker is one the best player, healthy, I have seen play. I just kind of think no one will be talking about him 20 years from today, but not only was he an amazing hitter, but he was an outstanding outfielder with a rocket arm.

[shnsajax]

Mike Greenwell

[Derwood]

Im just throwing this out, I wonder what everyone thought. Probably just because of his injury problems, but Larry Walker is one the best player, healthy, I have seen play. I just kind of think no one will be talking about him 20 years from today, but not only was he an amazing hitter, but he was an outstanding outfielder with a rocket arm.

 

those who don't know much about him will point to his years in Colorado and say the thin air elevated his stats

[NewUserName]

Im just throwing this out, I wonder what everyone thought. Probably just because of his injury problems, but Larry Walker is one the best player, healthy, I have seen play. I just kind of think no one will be talking about him 20 years from today, but not only was he an amazing hitter, but he was an outstanding outfielder with a rocket arm.

 

 

Similar to Kirk Gibson in my book. Yes Walkers numbers are better but he played in a extreme hitters park in an extreme hitters era. I think Gibson was on his way to being a baseball afterthought until his HR in the WS against Eck.

[Mizzou]

Bobby Bonilla -- .279/.358/.472

 

Wally Joyner -- .289/.362/.440

 

There are two guys that were very good players when I was growing up that no one ever really talks about. Very underrated, in my opinion.

[shnsajax]

Im just throwing this out, I wonder what everyone thought. Probably just because of his injury problems, but Larry Walker is one the best player, healthy, I have seen play. I just kind of think no one will be talking about him 20 years from today, but not only was he an amazing hitter, but he was an outstanding outfielder with a rocket arm.

 

 

Similar to Kirk Gibson in my book. Yes Walkers numbers are better but he played in a extreme hitters park in an extreme hitters era. I think Gibson was on his way to being a baseball afterthought until his HR in the WS against Eck.

 

Injuries seemed to have had really destroyed him. Seemed to be a great athlete. Wonder what kind of football player he would have been. Probably would have only lasted a couple of seasons.

[rocket]

this will make me feel ashamed...but john kruk was a very good baseball player. but no one knows him for that, they know him as the obnoxious dumbass loudmouth on espn, and rightfully so.

 

 Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+

+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
10 Seasons    1200 3897  582 1170 199 34 100  592  58 31 649 701  .300  .397  .446  133 1737  12  43  83   2  92

[Derwood]

this guy?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Joe Carter-Sure, he didnt hit much for average, but he had 10 100 RBI seasons.

[rocket]

Joe Carter-Sure, he didnt hit much for average, but he had 10 100 RBI seasons.

 

that reminds me of a post i need to make in another thread.

[jyoung55]

Glenallen Hill.

 

 

I mean seriously, he hit a ball on top of a building.

 

He hit a homerun while in the process of stepping into the batter's box.