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come on guys - jones was dead to rights on the force, and the throw beat him. Jones knew he was out.

 

edit: it was a bad slide though

 

Well, hell, then he should've just walked into the dugout and not bothered sliding. It doesn't matter what Jones "knows" because the umpire evidently didn't know it.

 

it was an easy play. simple throw to third to get him on the force. like I said, JOnes knew he was out. should players fake it everytime it's a close call just to fool an ump (who the vast majority of the tme, will get the call right)?

 

I think yes, they should. Play until it's over. Why wouldn't you -- is it not smart to attempt to get every advantage you can?

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come on guys - jones was dead to rights on the force, and the throw beat him. Jones knew he was out.

 

edit: it was a bad slide though

 

Well, hell, then he should've just walked into the dugout and not bothered sliding. It doesn't matter what Jones "knows" because the umpire evidently didn't know it.

 

it was an easy play. simple throw to third to get him on the force. like I said, JOnes knew he was out. should players fake it everytime it's a close call just to fool an ump (who the vast majority of the tme, will get the call right)?

 

No it should be like golf = even if the ump had called Jacque safe he still should have just went back to the dugout

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That Mike Fontenot T-shirt will go great with with my Hector Villanueva shorts. Seriously though, I wish the Cubs had some Iowa Hawkeyes for a T-shirt.

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I still want to know some someone what is the strategy behind trying a takeout slide of the 3Bman on a bunt

 

its Jacque Jones enough said

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come on guys - jones was dead to rights on the force, and the throw beat him. Jones knew he was out.

 

edit: it was a bad slide though

 

Well, hell, then he should've just walked into the dugout and not bothered sliding. It doesn't matter what Jones "knows" because the umpire evidently didn't know it.

 

it was an easy play. simple throw to third to get him on the force. like I said, JOnes knew he was out. should players fake it everytime it's a close call just to fool an ump (who the vast majority of the tme, will get the call right)?

 

I think yes, they should. Play until it's over. Why wouldn't you -- is it not smart to attempt to get every advantage you can?

 

every advantage? i guess so. but all I keep thinking is that jumping on Jones for his reaction is unfair -- what is running through his head is expected and fine. i just don't expect a player to be that quick when the natural reaction is, "I'm out, and it was obvious." He's not going to think "I'm out, it was obvious, and now I'm going to take the chance that the ump didn't see it and make a jackass out of myself by 'cheating' in front of everybody..."

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come on guys - jones was dead to rights on the force, and the throw beat him. Jones knew he was out.

 

edit: it was a bad slide though

 

Well, hell, then he should've just walked into the dugout and not bothered sliding. It doesn't matter what Jones "knows" because the umpire evidently didn't know it.

 

it was an easy play. simple throw to third to get him on the force. like I said, JOnes knew he was out. should players fake it everytime it's a close call just to fool an ump (who the vast majority of the tme, will get the call right)?

 

Hitters certainly don't decline walks on clear strikeouts. Pitchers don't decline strikeouts on clear balls. While I understand (and somewhat agree) with the honor and sportsmanship you are talking about, it clearly does not work that way. A player must accept the umpires call, beneficial or not, correct or not. Therefore, Jones should've attempted to get back on the bag and hoped for a blown call.

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