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The view from a Red Sox fan which believe it or not makes some sense.

 

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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7021902?print=true

 

And I want all the incredibly cool Cubs fans — you have to admit, they are the best — I've met over the years to experience this metamorphosis. It is, as they can no doubt imagine, quite awesome. (To be 10 games up and bitching because our No. 5 starter just got rocked again may not endear us to others, but it is a much better existence than 1918-2003.)

 

This shift for Red Sox Nation didn't begin with the Greatest Comeback in Sports History in the 2004 ALCS. It began when the Yawkey Trust, in what was decried in some local corners as an MLB bag job that would be terrible for Boston and its fans, sold the team to John Henry and Tom Werner in early 2002.

 

 

There would be no local ownership, lamented the nativists. No new ballpark in South Boston, cried the non-traditionalists, all-too-ready to see Fenway imploded.

 

Well, we all know how things have turned out. True to their word, Henry and Werner have preserved and improved Fenway Park, adding seats without sacrificing charm. They have spent aggressively — see: Daisuke Matsuzaka — to keep the team competitive. And then there's that 2004 championship banner.

 

A franchise that was once defined almost solely by the fact that it sold Babe Ruth is now the team that flew to Arizona for Thanksgiving to pry Curt Schilling away from the D-backs and saw something special in a non-tendered free agent named David Ortiz.

 

Cubs fans deserve to have their team redefined. Those Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio jokes just aren't funny anymore.

 

As the Tribune Company prepares to sell off its baseball team as part of its sale to billionaire Sam Zell, Cubs fans are approaching a date with destiny. Will they trade a grim ownership consortium for a bad individual owner? Or will they get the man who can take them to the Promised Land?

 

The next owner can change everything on the North Side. If it's the right owner. If it's Mark Cuban.

 

When he bought the Mavericks, Cuban changed the culture in Dallas almost overnight. He transformed the team from a perennial disappointment that played second fiddle to the local football team and even third fiddle behind the hockey team into an organization that does things right, takes care of its players and wins, baby. Instead of a woebegone NBA outpost, Dallas became a destination. That started at the top.

 

Cuban has what Chicago needs. Passion, brains and bucks.

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Cubs fans deserve to have their team redefined. Those Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio jokes just aren't funny anymore.

This is off topic, but Brock sucked horribly with the Cubs, and the fact that he became an early version of Rickey Henderson after he left was bad luck, not a terrible deal.

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Cubs fans deserve to have their team redefined. Those Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio jokes just aren't funny anymore.

This is off topic, but Brock sucked horribly with the Cubs, and the fact that he became an early version of Rickey Henderson after he left was bad luck, not a terrible deal.

 

When talented young prospects struggle early and then develop into better players in their early-to-mid 20's, it's called natural progression, not luck.

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Cubs fans deserve to have their team redefined. Those Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio jokes just aren't funny anymore.

This is off topic, but Brock sucked horribly with the Cubs, and the fact that he became an early version of Rickey Henderson after he left was bad luck, not a terrible deal.

 

Or one could argue that the Cardinals saw his potential and were smart in convincing him to hit for average and stop swinging for the fences like the Cubs encouraged him to.

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Cubs fans deserve to have their team redefined. Those Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio jokes just aren't funny anymore.

This is off topic, but Brock sucked horribly with the Cubs, and the fact that he became an early version of Rickey Henderson after he left was bad luck, not a terrible deal.

 

lou brock was never rickey henderson.

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Rickey is rolling over in the Mets dugout because of that comparison. I'm not sure Brock was better than Kenny Lofton.

 

Lofton over Brock? Give me a break.

 

http://www.loubrock.com/Stats.htm

 

You have a break.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/comparison.aspx?playerid=1001458&playerid2=246&playerid3=&position=OF&page=1&type=full

 

WARP3 Lofton 102> Brock 87

 

Apples and oranges. Brock played several years before the mound was chopped down, with less teams (pre-expansion) and before all the minature stadiums started popping up.

 

Comparing stats from different eras can be misleading.

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Rickey is rolling over in the Mets dugout because of that comparison. I'm not sure Brock was better than Kenny Lofton.

 

Lofton over Brock? Give me a break.

 

http://www.loubrock.com/Stats.htm

 

You have a break.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/comparison.aspx?playerid=1001458&playerid2=246&playerid3=&position=OF&page=1&type=full

 

WARP3 Lofton 102> Brock 87

 

Apples and oranges. Brock played several years before the mound was chopped down, with less teams (pre-expansion) and before all the minature stadiums started popping up.

 

Comparing stats from different eras can be misleading.

WARP3 corrects for era, supposedly. It's probably more like Granny Smith vs. Red Delicious.

 

Anyway, Lou Brock was severly overrated but still a very good player. And Andy, I think the Cardinals knew who they were getting.

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I'm going to pretend that Cuban is the next owner until it's proven otherwise. It helps me sleep at night.

 

Well done. that might work better for me, than the bottle of patron i have been using.

 

Yep. He's our new owner until proven otherwise, brilliant!

 

I sense a slogan...

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Fair enough. If you are allowed or if you have any knowledge, or just a good guess, what are the odds of Cuban becoming the owner of the Chicago Cubs as of this point, based on what everybody knows?
She said she suspects it will be someone nobody's even thought of yet, so that rules out Cuban as someone she thinks is likely.

 

Well, that's where it somewhat troubles me. I mean, the Mavericks weren't a solid basketball team before he came on, and when he came in, he changed the culture on that franchise, and look at them, they're winning basketball games and at least making on the playoffs year in and out.

 

That's what Chicago needs, period. Unfortunately, I get a small feeling that MLB will balk that issue somehow, someway, and award the franchise to somebody else. I'm afraid that the MLB will award it to a person who can run a business, but is not baseball smart.

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Cuban seems like a guy who'd do a Q and A with NSBB if he was successful in his bid.
Who needs any more reason than that for him to become the new owner? :D
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I dont want, after every pitch, the camera to pan to Mark Cuban sitting bhind home plate screaming at the umpire. I dont want Cuban's face all over all things Cubs. I dont want Jerry Jones Jr.
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I dont want, after every pitch, the camera to pan to Mark Cuban sitting bhind home plate screaming at the umpire. I dont want Cuban's face all over all things Cubs. I dont want Jerry Jones Jr.

 

Do you want to win? Because of all the names mentioned with the Cubs, I'm pretty sure Cuban gives us the best chance.

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I dont want, after every pitch, the camera to pan to Mark Cuban sitting bhind home plate screaming at the umpire. I dont want Cuban's face all over all things Cubs. I dont want Jerry Jones Jr.

 

Get over what you don't want...most of us want a winner. This lovable loser thing is WAYYY played-out...

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I dont want, after every pitch, the camera to pan to Mark Cuban sitting bhind home plate screaming at the umpire. I dont want Cuban's face all over all things Cubs. I dont want Jerry Jones Jr.
Give me a winner and I'll happily live with his antics.
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What's up with all the haters in the media who thing Cuban would be such a terrible thing for the Cubs. Like those who work for the Tribune. Making pleas to try and keep him from owning another sports franchise. Cuban wants to win, and he's a real sports fan. And after years of a crappy ownership who only cared about money. And really, why shouldn't the media want someone like him to write about every day?
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What's up with all the haters in the media who thing Cuban would be such a terrible thing for the Cubs. Like those who work for the Tribune. Making pleas to try and keep him from owning another sports franchise. Cuban wants to win, and he's a real sports fan. And after years of a crappy ownership who only cared about money. And really, why shouldn't the media want someone like him to write about every day?

 

When it comes from people who work at the Tribune, I can only assume it's because Cuban is an outsider and each of them probably has a more 'inside' candidate they've been eyeing for awhile.

 

Given 98 years of failure, mark me down for wanting some outside help at this point.

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