Jacque Jones Deal to Marlins is Off Because of Hendry

[Chocolate Milk]

Mike North just reported on the score at 9:10 AM that Sam Zell vetoed the deal in the zero hour that would have had the Chicago Cubs paying roughly 6 million dollars of Jones 7.2 million dollar deal.

 

this was taken from the insidetheivy forums

 

think of it what you will

 

I don't buy it. It makes no sense for someone making a multi-billion dollar deal to get pissy over $6m dollars.

 

I don't buy that Mike North "just reported" the story. He's not a reporter. He's a hack opinion giver who will run with any storyline he can find to create controversy.

 

Mike North is a mushmouth. The though of Zell being involved with player movement over 6 mil is laughable.

[cubfan1955]

Mike North just reported on the score at 9:10 AM that Sam Zell vetoed the deal in the zero hour that would have had the Chicago Cubs paying roughly 6 million dollars of Jones 7.2 million dollar deal.

 

this was taken from the insidetheivy forums

 

think of it what you will

 

I don't buy it. It makes no sense for someone making a multi-billion dollar deal to get pissy over $6m dollars.

 

I don't buy that Mike North "just reported" the story. He's not a reporter. He's a hack opinion giver who will run with any storyline he can find to create controversy.

 

Mike North is a mushmouth. The though of Zell being involved with player movement over 6 mil is laughable.

I would guess if Zell is, and that is an iffy is, it would be in the context of being involved in how Trib management spends the Tribs money plus the fact adding salary beyond this year could affect the price he will get for the Cubs. And $6 million + dollars is still a lot of money no matter how many billion you are spending for the Trib.

[Guest]

Good for Jim, and even better for us if it's true that Zell wasn't calling the shots and vetoing the trade.

[anabiono]

i, just like most of you, really don't see how it is possible that zell was involved in this decision...because it doesn't make sense, and shouldn't make sense to anyone else...

 

but why in the hell was it reported in the first place? where is our batman? bruce miles...come to us in our time of need!

[badgercub]

While Zell may not have been involved due to financial matters, he is still a part owner of the White Sox and maybe he vetoed it for other matters not having to do with money. That may be a cynical look at it, but people have done things for lesser reasons.

[USSoccer]

Mike North just reported on the score at 9:10 AM that Sam Zell vetoed the deal in the zero hour that would have had the Chicago Cubs paying roughly 6 million dollars of Jones 7.2 million dollar deal.

 

this was taken from the insidetheivy forums

 

think of it what you will

 

I don't buy it. It makes no sense for someone making a multi-billion dollar deal to get pissy over $6m dollars.

 

I don't buy that Mike North "just reported" the story. He's not a reporter. He's a hack opinion giver who will run with any storyline he can find to create controversy.

 

Mike North is a mushmouth. The though of Zell being involved with player movement over 6 mil is laughable.

I would guess if Zell is, and that is an iffy is, it would be in the context of being involved in how Trib management spends the Tribs money plus the fact adding salary beyond this year could affect the price he will get for the Cubs. And $6 million + dollars is still a lot of money no matter how many billion you are spending for the Trib.

 

The Cubs have already signed Jones. They've spent the $7m. What would Zell care about $7m for given that it's already committed?

 

It doesn't hold up to scrutiny. This is garbage speculation by people who want to stir up something.

[jersey cubs fan]

The Cubs have already signed Jones. They've spent the $7m. What would Zell care about $7m for given that it's already committed?

 

It doesn't hold up to scrutiny. This is garbage speculation by people who want to stir up something.

 

The Cubs have been adamentally opposed to paying guys to play elsewhere for a while. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that somebody nixed the idea.

[USSoccer]

The Cubs have already signed Jones. They've spent the $7m. What would Zell care about $7m for given that it's already committed?

 

It doesn't hold up to scrutiny. This is garbage speculation by people who want to stir up something.

 

The Cubs have been adamentally opposed to paying guys to play elsewhere for a while. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that somebody nixed the idea.

 

Yeah, but to think that it was Zell and not McDonough or Hendry doing the nixing is stupid.

 

I can buy Hendry realizing that it was stupid to pay nearly his entire salary and still get nothing back. I can buy McD stepping in and pointing out that it was stupid. And they'd both be right. As much as I want Jones gone, that deal seemed stupid.

 

However, to try and whip up some sort of thing where Zell stepped in over what amounts to nothing in the overall transaction he's involved in is just stupid.

[cubfan1955]

Mike North just reported on the score at 9:10 AM that Sam Zell vetoed the deal in the zero hour that would have had the Chicago Cubs paying roughly 6 million dollars of Jones 7.2 million dollar deal.

 

this was taken from the insidetheivy forums

 

think of it what you will

 

I don't buy it. It makes no sense for someone making a multi-billion dollar deal to get pissy over $6m dollars.

 

I don't buy that Mike North "just reported" the story. He's not a reporter. He's a hack opinion giver who will run with any storyline he can find to create controversy.

 

Mike North is a mushmouth. The though of Zell being involved with player movement over 6 mil is laughable.

I would guess if Zell is, and that is an iffy is, it would be in the context of being involved in how Trib management spends the Tribs money plus the fact adding salary beyond this year could affect the price he will get for the Cubs. And $6 million + dollars is still a lot of money no matter how many billion you are spending for the Trib.

 

The Cubs have already signed Jones. They've spent the $7m. What would Zell care about $7m for given that it's already committed?

 

It doesn't hold up to scrutiny. This is garbage speculation by people who want to stir up something.

Would you give your car to your neighbor? And then make the payments for him? And pay the repair bills? And pay the insurance? My guess is no. Spending money on players is fine as long as you are getting the services of that player. Spending money for players to play elsewhere...not so much.

 

I know a lot of people want to be rid of Jones at any cost but there has to be a limit to Jim Hendry's insanity.

[JeffH]

Isn't Zell still part owner of the White Sox? If so, how can he do anything that affects the baseball operations of the Cubs?

 

Sounds like BS to me.

[cubfan1955]

Isn't Zell still part owner of the White Sox? If so, how can he do anything that affects the baseball operations of the Cubs?

 

Sounds like BS to me.

I doubt if he can directly affect the operation of the club. But he does have a say in how the Trib spends money since he is buying the Trib. I still have my doubts though that he was involved at all.

[JeffH]

Would you give your car to your neighbor? And then make the payments for him? And pay the repair bills? And pay the insurance?

 

If the presence of my car in the driveway was bringing down the value of my house, I might give the car to a friend across town while continuing to pay the bills on it.

[cubfan1955]

Would you give your car to your neighbor? And then make the payments for him? And pay the repair bills? And pay the insurance?

 

If the presence of my car in the driveway was bringing down the value of my house, I might give the car to a friend across town while continuing to pay the bills on it.

Is your real name Jim Hendry?

[abuck1220]

Would you give your car to your neighbor? And then make the payments for him? And pay the repair bills? And pay the insurance? My guess is no. Spending money on players is fine as long as you are getting the services of that player. Spending money for players to play elsewhere...not so much.

 

I know a lot of people want to be rid of Jones at any cost but there has to be a limit to Jim Hendry's insanity.

 

yeah, because car transactions between neighbors is JUST like player transactions between major league teams. come on.

[cubfan1955]

Would you give your car to your neighbor? And then make the payments for him? And pay the repair bills? And pay the insurance? My guess is no. Spending money on players is fine as long as you are getting the services of that player. Spending money for players to play elsewhere...not so much.

 

I know a lot of people want to be rid of Jones at any cost but there has to be a limit to Jim Hendry's insanity.

 

yeah, because car transactions between neighbors is JUST like player transactions between major league teams. come on.

It makes as much sense. Both are stupid things to do.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Would you give your car to your neighbor? And then make the payments for him? And pay the repair bills? And pay the insurance? My guess is no. Spending money on players is fine as long as you are getting the services of that player. Spending money for players to play elsewhere...not so much.

Your car analogy doesn't apply to the situation. Try this one:

 

If you bought a car and it broke down and ended up being unrepairable, would you let it sit in your garage taking up space that could be better used by one of your other cars? Or if you had an offer to give you a small amount of money to get rid of that car, wouldn't you take it even though it may be well below what you owe?

[Amazing_Grace]

Might our resident media insider and all around good guy, Bruce Miles, be able to clear up the Zell involvement for us.

 

Someone fire up the Bruce signal.

 

I agree. I think the only way this question will ever be definitively answered, at least in this thread, is with a visit from the Bruceman.

[cubfan1955]

Would you give your car to your neighbor? And then make the payments for him? And pay the repair bills? And pay the insurance? My guess is no. Spending money on players is fine as long as you are getting the services of that player. Spending money for players to play elsewhere...not so much.

Your car analogy doesn't apply to the situation. Try this one:

 

If you bought a car and it broke down and ended up being unrepairable, would you let it sit in your garage taking up space that could be better used by one of your other cars? Or if you had an offer to give you a small amount of money to get rid of that car, wouldn't you take it even though it may be well below what you owe?

The problem with your analogy is that no one offered us anything. They agreed to take him if we pay them to do so.

 

Sometimes you have to pay to have the garbage taken away. I know that. This isn't one of them though. I think in the AL, JJ could have some value as a LH DH. Paying to give him away is not the best option.

 

Edit: And I'm not against picking up some of his salary but not 90% over the next year and a half.

[cubfan1955]

From a column by Bruce Miles:

 

Apparently, the Jones-to-Florida deal fell apart because the Cubs wanted a better prospect from the Marlins if they were going to eat most (a reported $6.6 million) of the remainder of Jones’ contract, which has $7.2 million left through next year.

 

For now, Jones still a Cub

[weis21]

I didn't see this posted before:

 

according to signonsandiego.com:

 

In talks with the Padres, the Cubs offered to pay the remainder of outfielder Jacque Jones' $4 million salary for this season, plus all of his $5 million salary for 2008 in return for a low-level prospect. Preferring Terrmel Sledge over Jones, the Padres declined, after which the Cubs dealt Jones to the Marlins.

 

I have to imagine that is not all true though, they wouldn't have to pay anything??? Either thats wrong or the prospect was a pretty good one. Jeez, jacque may indeed be worthless if this is true.

[inari]

Well, at least Hendry's unwilling to get swindled, I guess.

[killthegoat06]

I read somewhere that Hendry is still trying to deal Jones...

[USSoccer]

Unfortunately, Jones is probably completely worthless.

[Sarcastic]

I read somewhere that Hendry is still trying to deal Jones...

 

There was a quote in which he mentioned specifically that he had been talking to other teams while working out the Marlins trade "scenario" and that he had another one he was working on, though what he meant by scenario wasn't 100% clear. I think it was posted earlier in the thread a few pages back.

[killthegoat06]

I read somewhere that Hendry is still trying to deal Jones...

 

There was a quote in which he mentioned specifically that he had been talking to other teams while working out the Marlins trade "scenario" and that he had another one he was working on, though what he meant by scenario wasn't 100% clear. I think it was posted earlier in the thread a few pages back.

Thanks. Please get it done Hendry.