Hardest record to break in baseball?

[OleMissCub]

What do y'all think is the hardest record to break?

 

I'd have to say, in no particular order other than the first one

 

- Cy Young's 511 wins

- Cobb's .367 lifetime BA

- VanderMeer's back to back no-hitters

 

others?

[Soul]

For the Cubs: 1 game over .500

[rocket]

56 game hitting streak

 

Roger Clemens 2 20 strikeout games

[tkenm356]

511 wins. It will never be topped, and personally I think it should be considered as a seperate record. The dead-ball era was interesting, and considering pitchers pitched between 40-50 games a year, I think it'd kind of ridiculous to consider it a breakable record in todays era. I think there should be a modern era record, personally. And since in this modern era of 5-man rotations and typical maximum of 35 games a season which very few pitchers fulfill, if anyone DOES break that record, they will be the 2nd coming of Cy Young himself, since they'd have to win nearly 30 games for the majority of his career to break it. If someone won 30 games a year for 17 years straight, they'd still be 1 win shy of Young's record.

[OleMissCub]

511 wins. It will never be topped, and personally I think it should be considered as a seperate record. The dead-ball era was interesting, and considering pitchers pitched between 40-50 games a year, I think it'd kind of ridiculous to consider it a breakable record in todays era. I think there should be a modern era record, personally. And since in this modern era of 5-man rotations and typical maximum of 35 games a season which very few pitchers fulfill, if anyone DOES break that record, they will be the 2nd coming of Cy Young himself, since they'd have to win nearly 30 games for the majority of his career to break it. If someone won 30 games a year for 17 years straight, they'd still be 1 win shy of Young's record.

 

Yep, that one truly is impossible to break.

[Exile on Waveland]

511 wins. It will never be topped, and personally I think it should be considered as a seperate record. The dead-ball era was interesting, and considering pitchers pitched between 40-50 games a year, I think it'd kind of ridiculous to consider it a breakable record in todays era. I think there should be a modern era record, personally. And since in this modern era of 5-man rotations and typical maximum of 35 games a season which very few pitchers fulfill, if anyone DOES break that record, they will be the 2nd coming of Cy Young himself, since they'd have to win nearly 30 games for the majority of his career to break it. If someone won 30 games a year for 17 years straight, they'd still be 1 win shy of Young's record.

 

Yep, that one truly is impossible to break.

 

I think this is an easy choice for unbreakable baseball records. In other sports, Wilt Chamberlain's 48.5 mpg in 1961-62 won't be topped.

[mspcanes1]

ripken's consecutive game streak won't ever be touched

[Roast]

Young's 511 (maybe more!) wins

Cobb's .367 Career BA

Ripken's Consecutive games streak.

 

None of these will anyone ever come CLOSE to catching.

 

Things like 2 20K games and back to back no hitters..it's unlikely it'll ever happen, but it's much much more likely than the three I listed above.

[Keener98]

99 years and no WS win :cry:

[Sarcastic]

99 years and no WS win :cry:

 

The Cubs should break that one easily.

 

I've always thought DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak would be the hardest to break, but in retrospect, you have to give it to Cy Young's 511 wins. No pitcher will ever break that in the era of modern baseball.

Edited June 18, 2007 by Sarcastic

[TB_11]

The odds of DiMaggio's hitting streak being topped are extremely slim, but it could conceivably happen. Cy Young's win record won't ever be touched, given the changes in the game since he played.

 

Others that won't be touched in a few lifetimes:

- Cy Young's complete games pitched

- Babe Ruth's lifetime adjusted OPS+

- Ted William's career OBP

[Ding Dong Johnson]

56 game hitting streak

 

that's mine as well -- the game has changed so much in the last century that the 511 might as well have an asterisk next to it. It'll be extremely rare to see pitchers get in 511 games moving forward.

[Post Count Padder]

Hack Wilson's 191 RBIs!

 

:D

[BigbadB]

There are a lot of records that will never be broken, but the 56 game hitting streak isn't one that I label as unbreakable. Maybe it will never be broken, but guys can at least come close to breaking it compared to Cy Young's career wins.

[sunnydoo]

The back to back to back HRs by the 7-8-9 including a pitcher. Never done before last week by LA.

 

Seriously, Connie Mack's Win and Loss totals as Manager.

Cy Youngs Win Total, Batters Faced Total and IP total.

Nolan Ryans Wild Pitch mark.

 

There may only be 1 person that can ever take down Aarons Total Base record, and that is ARod. Should be really close if ARod has a productive remainder of his career.

[erik316wttn]

One I'm suprised hasn't been mentioned yet is Rickey Henderson's steals record.

 

The stolen base is nowhere near as much of a part of the game as it was in the 70's and 80's. Players just don't run that much anymore, so someone even approaching his single season or career record in today's game is just unfathomable.

[tkenm356]

if anyone will break Henderson's record, it's Jose Reyes, and he's on a blazing pace right now, and he's still not going to come close. Henderson averaged about 18 stolen bases a month the year he stole 130.

 

I had a friend who said the reason he was able to steal so many bases then was because pitchers had yet to grow accustomed to a side step approach and all pitchers used a wind-up. Is that even true? It sounds far-fetched, but I wasn't even born then to know

 

EDIT: I was looking at Baseball-Reference wrong, he averaged well over 20 a month

[sunnydoo]

One I'm suprised hasn't been mentioned yet is Rickey Henderson's steals record.

 

The stolen base is nowhere near as much of a part of the game as it was in the 70's and 80's. Players just don't run that much anymore, so someone even approaching his single season or career record in today's game is just unfathomable.

 

Jose Reyes might do it.

[Abe Frohman]

511 wins is never going to be topped. Virtually impossible.

[Fro]

511 wins is never going to be topped. Virtually impossible.

 

Really long term, it's a lock to be broken with advances in medical technology. I wouldn't bet against players regularly playing until they're 50 or 60, if not indefinitely in 200 years.

[snoodmonger]

I think Cy Young's Losses record (306?) is even harder than his wins.

[OleMissCub]

511 wins is never going to be topped. Virtually impossible.

 

Really long term, it's a lock to be broken with advances in medical technology. I wouldn't bet against players regularly playing until they're 50 or 60, if not indefinitely in 200 years.

 

You can't be serious? C'mon. Maddux has pitched 22 seasons using a low stress delivery and he's still nearly 200 shy of Cy Young.

[tkenm356]

You can tack on Cy Youngs 749 complete games to the list

[BigbadB]

You can tack on Cy Youngs 749 complete games to the list

 

Yeah, good one. There haven't been 749 complete games during this entire decade, including every pitcher.

[AlwaysaCub]

As much as Rickey's 130 steals in a season is amazing, the more outrageous stat is that he attempted to steal 172 times that season. There are plenty of guys who aren't even on base 172 times in a season. That's insane.