Aramis Ramirez's Injury

[thedaymen]

While Ramirez certainly has had lapses in hustle in past season, I haven't seen any indications of that this season. I think he's hustled all year. I've been very happy for him, it seems to me he's matured as a player.

 

For what it's worth (re: hustling).

 

EDIT: While it likely goes without saying, I hope he's OK.

 

I agree with Exile. I was one of the people that was all over ARAM for his effort or 'hustling at the wrong time' (way to make a situation worse Dusty); but I have no complaints this year. He's been running out more plays, his defense has improved, and of coure none of that has hurt him at the plate.

 

For me, its more fun to root for players that you think are giving it there all, and this season I have no complaints with Aramis.

[98navigator]

To be fair, the re-injury occurred because he didn't run hard out of the box. He only accelerated after he saw the ball was mishandled.

[soapy]

To be fair, the re-injury occurred because he didn't run hard out of the box. He only accelerated after he saw the ball was mishandled.

it sounds like the injury came from stepping awkwardly on first base and has zero to do with hustling or any lack thereof.

[98navigator]

To be fair, the re-injury occurred because he didn't run hard out of the box. He only accelerated after he saw the ball was mishandled.

it sounds like the injury came from stepping awkwardly on first base and has zero to do with hustling or any lack thereof.

 

I disagree. It was the acceleration and hitting the base hard that caused it from my view. If he had been running at a steady pace it most likely wouldn't have been reaggravated (he said the original injury occurred 4 weeks ago against the Phillies).

[Andy]

 

I think he's by far the most under-rated player on the team.

 

Easily. A guy who puts up the numbers he has in the 4 seasons with the Cubs AND who leaves probably $40m on the table to resign here deserves more respect that he gets.

DLee is my favorite current Cub, but what happened last offseason immediately put Aramis right there with him. Doesn't hurt that he's been really good this season.

[Laura]

FYI, a Bruce update from tonight's game thread:

 

Any updates on Aramis' injury?

 

"Severe" case of patella tendinitis. He'll likely arrive here tomorrow and be available to pinch hit this weekend. They'd rather have him sit until Monday and then re-evaluate.

[Sarcastic]

FYI, a Bruce update from tonight's game thread:

 

Any updates on Aramis' injury?

 

"Severe" case of patella tendinitis. He'll likely arrive here tomorrow and be available to pinch hit this weekend. They'd rather have him sit until Monday and then re-evaluate.

 

I'm glad that it isn't anything more serious.

[rynefan]

Cubs loss = lucky break for the Braves!!

[Cubfanintheknow]

FYI, a Bruce update from tonight's game thread:

 

Any updates on Aramis' injury?

 

"Severe" case of patella tendinitis. He'll likely arrive here tomorrow and be available to pinch hit this weekend. They'd rather have him sit until Monday and then re-evaluate.

 

Sounds like this was an injury waiting to happen. If it hadn't occurred on Wednesday, it could have happened Thursday, Friday, Saturday... pick one.

[MustangMike]

Hustling or not, injuries can happen. I'd rather have my guy give 100% every time if if something happens while trying hard, I'll live with it.

 

I'd rather have a guy loaf to first on a sure groundout and be able to play the entire and lead the team in HRs and RBIs than have him get hurt on a play he would have been retired on anyway.

 

Of course I want one of the best cubs to play and not be hurt, but all I'm saying is hustling generates good things IMO. In this case, he strained his knee, which I obviously didn't want to happen but I wouldn't tell him to 1/2 heart it to 1st base.

[kente777]

Hustling or not, injuries can happen. I'd rather have my guy give 100% every time if if something happens while trying hard, I'll live with it.

 

I'd rather have a guy loaf to first on a sure groundout and be able to play the entire and lead the team in HRs and RBIs than have him get hurt on a play he would have been retired on anyway.

 

Of course I want one of the best cubs to play and not be hurt, but all I'm saying is hustling generates good things IMO. In this case, he strained his knee, which I obviously didn't want to happen but I wouldn't tell him to 1/2 heart it to 1st base.

 

Not that I disagree with everything your saying, but very few players can run full out on every single play for the entire season. I'm not sure exactly the play he injured himself, but I believe in a long season you have to pick and chose how hard you run on a given play. Obviously, if the game is on the line, then hustle is appropriate. But if the game is out of hand either way, no sense killing yourself on what could be a severe injury on a play that didn't mean that much. Stretching, obviously, is extremely important. However, as someone has already said, I'd much rather have an important stick in the lineup rather than have him run all out on a inconsequential play that will keep him out of the lineup for an extended period of time.

 

Again, there are a few players who probably can run all out every single play for every ballgame. However, I don't think Ramirez is one of those kinds of players. JMO.

 

Ken

[SABR Gamer]

i have tendinitis in my ankle, and im betting some other people here have at least some sort of tendinitis, but its really a b**ch to run on so i can totally understand Ramirez's supposed "lack of hustle." its so dumb that people ride him for it, ok would u rather have him do this every week? option 1, he goes a bit easy on the base paths and worthless situations like pop ups and hard grounders right at fielders and stays in the lineup every day hitting .300 with 40 homers and 125 rbi, or option 2, he hustles out every play no matter how easily he will be out and gets hurt like this every couple weeks and misses 3-4 out of every 15 games. ill take option one thanks

[jjgman21]

I don't think Aram should be a go all out kind of guy. his game isn't built on speed. all I ask is that he go 80-90% out of the box until he sees the fielder handle the ball cleanly, especially when there is a runner on base. if the fielder picks it and is in the process of making the play, fine, break it down, don't bust it so as to make the play close or just in case the throw pulls the first baseman off the bag. in other words, no need to hustle on a routine play, but don't judge a play's routineness prematurely.

 

there's degrees of hustle, and there's times to hustle. he's been better this year about it, but this is clearly a play where if he doesn't give up on it once it left his bat, he wouldn't have aggrevated the knee.

[sunnydoo]

Oh noes. I think i have seen this train wreck before. If this is true, Hendry needs to be either fired immediately or promoted to the Iraqi Interior Ministry.

 

The third baseman on the North Side of Chicago is having troubles as well, as Aramis Ramirez's problematic knee finally forced him to the DL. Reports from ESPN 1000's Bruce Levine appear to confirm that there is not only the tendonitis in the knee, but also a small meniscus tear. I was not able to independently confirm this tear from sources, but Levine does great work up there, so I trust his reporting.

 

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6337

[third eye]

Oh noes. I think i have seen this train wreck before. If this is true, Hendry needs to be either fired immediately or promoted to the Iraqi Interior Ministry.

 

The third baseman on the North Side of Chicago is having troubles as well, as Aramis Ramirez's problematic knee finally forced him to the DL. Reports from ESPN 1000's Bruce Levine appear to confirm that there is not only the tendonitis in the knee, but also a small meniscus tear. I was not able to independently confirm this tear from sources, but Levine does great work up there, so I trust his reporting.

 

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6337

 

Dear Lord, if this is accurate we are truly hosed. How can it be possible that year after year since 2004, our best players have gone down for extended periods of time? Seems unfathomable!!

[soccer10k]

Oh noes. I think i have seen this train wreck before. If this is true, Hendry needs to be either fired immediately or promoted to the Iraqi Interior Ministry.

 

The third baseman on the North Side of Chicago is having troubles as well, as Aramis Ramirez's problematic knee finally forced him to the DL. Reports from ESPN 1000's Bruce Levine appear to confirm that there is not only the tendonitis in the knee, but also a small meniscus tear. I was not able to independently confirm this tear from sources, but Levine does great work up there, so I trust his reporting.

 

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6337

 

This would be all kinds of bad.

[USSoccer]

Sigh.

 

I knew it. Knee sprains are almost never just knee sprains.

 

If he has a meniscus tear, that means he won't play for 6-8 weeks.

[C.C.]

Par for the course. Man, we can't catch a break. It's amazing.

[CubColtPacer]

Sigh.

 

I knew it. Knee sprains are almost never just knee sprains.

 

If he has a meniscus tear, that means he won't play for 6-8 weeks.

 

Will Carroll doesn't seem to think so. He goes on in the same article to say:

 

As I said last week, the tear wouldn't be that significant a problem. In fact, this situation is very similar to the one that got Boston in an uproar about this time last season with Manny Ramirez. I'm still convinced that Ramirez had (or actually has) a small tear, but it was the tendonitis that got most of the blame. Assuming that Aramis Ramirez responds to the rest and treatment, he shouldn't miss more than the minimum. Even the worst-case scenario is very manageable, with a quick 'scope that would cost him a month.

[jersey cubs fan]

Oh noes. I think i have seen this train wreck before. If this is true, Hendry needs to be either fired immediately or promoted to the Iraqi Interior Ministry.

 

The third baseman on the North Side of Chicago is having troubles as well, as Aramis Ramirez's problematic knee finally forced him to the DL. Reports from ESPN 1000's Bruce Levine appear to confirm that there is not only the tendonitis in the knee, but also a small meniscus tear. I was not able to independently confirm this tear from sources, but Levine does great work up there, so I trust his reporting.

 

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6337

 

I'm all for firing Hendry, but what does this story have to do with it?

[woodchip2153]

Sigh.

 

I knew it. Knee sprains are almost never just knee sprains.

 

If he has a meniscus tear, that means he won't play for 6-8 weeks.

 

Didn't Kerry have a meniscus tear last year and had it repaired and was back in a week?

 

I think if they cut off the torn piece it's a minor surgery and your back in action in a couple of days. If they repair then you can't put any weight on it for several weeks.

[USSoccer]

Sigh.

 

I knew it. Knee sprains are almost never just knee sprains.

 

If he has a meniscus tear, that means he won't play for 6-8 weeks.

 

Didn't Kerry have a meniscus tear last year and had it repaired and was back in a week?

 

I think if they cut off the torn piece it's a minor surgery and your back in action in a couple of days. If they repair then you can't put any weight on it for several weeks.

 

Aramis doesn't have the best health history when it comes to his legs. Anytime I hear about knee injuries I get concerned that the guy is going to miss more time than advertised.

 

I could be wrong, and I hope I'm wrong.

[YearofDaCubs]

My buddy who is having surgery for his meniscus tear is out 5-6 weeks.

[bhogg]

he should have went half assed down to first