THE Fight

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

This isn't the first time Zambrano has shown up a teammate. It's just that Barrett called him out for his own suckiness.

 

Barrett is not faultless in this, but it all began because Zambrano acts worse than a 11-year-old when things don't go his way.

Wasn't there an incident with Murton earlier this year where Zambrano showed him up? I can't recall what exactly happened, but I do vaguely remember something taking place.

 

I can remember one with Murton and one with Walker. I think there have been others as well.

 

Zambrano, as much as I've liked him, is a punk. His bravado is fun and entertaining when he's going well, like his predicting the Cubs will win 110 games or his claiming he'll win the Cy. But when things go bad, he's an immature jackass.

 

Barrett's an emotional player as well. We've seen this with Oswalt and AJ. The difference is Barrett is usually taking on the other team and not his own. That behavior may not be good, but it's world's better than pouting and blaming your own teammates.

 

Zambrano was acting like a baby and Barrett called him on his prima donna attitude. Maybe if Zambrano started throwing the ball better and quit trying to act like Kent Tekulve he'd get more outs this year.

[Rob]

This isn't the first time Zambrano has shown up a teammate. It's just that Barrett called him out for his own suckiness.

 

Barrett is not faultless in this, but it all began because Zambrano acts worse than a 11-year-old when things don't go his way.

Wasn't there an incident with Murton earlier this year where Zambrano showed him up? I can't recall what exactly happened, but I do vaguely remember something taking place.

 

I can remember one with Murton and one with Walker. I think there have been others as well.

 

Zambrano, as much as I've liked him, is a punk. His bravado is fun and entertaining when he's going well, like his predicting the Cubs will win 110 games or his claiming he'll win the Cy. But when things go bad, he's an immature jackass.

 

Barrett's an emotional player as well. We've seen this with Oswalt and AJ. The difference is Barrett is usually taking on the other team and not his own. That behavior may not be good, but it's world's better than pouting and blaming your own teammates.

 

Zambrano was acting like a baby and Barrett called him on his prima donna attitude. Maybe if Zambrano started throwing the ball better and quit trying to act like Kent Tekulve he'd get more outs this year.

 

Nice Tekulve reference.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

This an disaster for the Cubs on many different levels.

 

1) It'll be tougher to resign Z and Barrett.

2) If they do decided to trade them this will hurt their value.

3) The clubhouse is a mess.

 

 

 

Wow.

[DurbanJer]

This isn't the first time Zambrano has shown up a teammate. It's just that Barrett called him out for his own suckiness.

 

Barrett is not faultless in this, but it all began because Zambrano acts worse than a 11-year-old when things don't go his way.

Wasn't there an incident with Murton earlier this year where Zambrano showed him up? I can't recall what exactly happened, but I do vaguely remember something taking place.

 

I can remember one with Murton and one with Walker. I think there have been others as well.

 

Zambrano, as much as I've liked him, is a punk. His bravado is fun and entertaining when he's going well, like his predicting the Cubs will win 110 games or his claiming he'll win the Cy. But when things go bad, he's an immature jackass.

 

Barrett's an emotional player as well. We've seen this with Oswalt and AJ. The difference is Barrett is usually taking on the other team and not his own. That behavior may not be good, but it's world's better than pouting and blaming your own teammates.

 

Zambrano was acting like a baby and Barrett called him on his prima donna attitude. Maybe if Zambrano started throwing the ball better and quit trying to act like Kent Tekulve he'd get more outs this year.

 

I couldn't agree more. Z takes his frustration out on his teammates instead of himself. He's always blamed others and has never looked in the mirror. He's never had a problem showing the other team up as well (aka Bonds) -- this time he got called on it and he didn't like it. His lack of mental control (or emotional intelligence) is the ONLY thing holding him back from being great. Instead, he's a nut job.

[ConstableRabbit]

I was at today's game (0-5 for the season, but that's beside the point) and I've thought about this scuffle for a little bit before posting.

 

Firstly, I'm really disappointed in both players -- this is clearly something that never happens. After I first heard about it, I really thought that at least one of the players needed to be traded.

 

However, after thinking about this I've come to the conclusion that it's not the end of the world or the collapse of the team. These types of fights have happened in the past within a team -- they just usually aren't in public view. Skiles/Shaq, Jordan/Kerr are a couple of examples. Hopefully the two will apologize to each other and this can all be resolved shortly.

 

I have a strange feeling that the team will right itself. It's only June 1st and Mil really isn't that impressive. I just hope they can get their act together soon.

[Chocolate Milk]

This isn't the first time Zambrano has shown up a teammate. It's just that Barrett called him out for his own suckiness.

 

Barrett is not faultless in this, but it all began because Zambrano acts worse than a 11-year-old when things don't go his way.

Wasn't there an incident with Murton earlier this year where Zambrano showed him up? I can't recall what exactly happened, but I do vaguely remember something taking place.

 

I can remember one with Murton and one with Walker. I think there have been others as well.

 

Zambrano, as much as I've liked him, is a punk. His bravado is fun and entertaining when he's going well, like his predicting the Cubs will win 110 games or his claiming he'll win the Cy. But when things go bad, he's an immature jackass.

 

Barrett's an emotional player as well. We've seen this with Oswalt and AJ. The difference is Barrett is usually taking on the other team and not his own. That behavior may not be good, but it's world's better than pouting and blaming your own teammates.

 

Zambrano was acting like a baby and Barrett called him on his prima donna attitude. Maybe if Zambrano started throwing the ball better and quit trying to act like Kent Tekulve he'd get more outs this year.

 

I basically agree with you here. Barrett should not have started round 2, if indeed he did.

[sherwood921]

I blame Blanco. If he hadn't hurt his neck/back none of this would've happened.

[circlecitycub]

This isn't the first time Zambrano has shown up a teammate. It's just that Barrett called him out for his own suckiness.

 

Barrett is not faultless in this, but it all began because Zambrano acts worse than a 11-year-old when things don't go his way.

Wasn't there an incident with Murton earlier this year where Zambrano showed him up? I can't recall what exactly happened, but I do vaguely remember something taking place.

 

I can remember one with Murton and one with Walker. I think there have been others as well.

 

Zambrano, as much as I've liked him, is a punk. His bravado is fun and entertaining when he's going well, like his predicting the Cubs will win 110 games or his claiming he'll win the Cy. But when things go bad, he's an immature jackass.

 

Barrett's an emotional player as well. We've seen this with Oswalt and AJ. The difference is Barrett is usually taking on the other team and not his own. That behavior may not be good, but it's world's better than pouting and blaming your own teammates.

 

Zambrano was acting like a baby and Barrett called him on his prima donna attitude. Maybe if Zambrano started throwing the ball better and quit trying to act like Kent Tekulve he'd get more outs this year.

 

Nice Tekulve reference.

 

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s15/bmdrescher/ZTekulve.jpg

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

This isn't the first time Zambrano has shown up a teammate. It's just that Barrett called him out for his own suckiness.

 

Barrett is not faultless in this, but it all began because Zambrano acts worse than a 11-year-old when things don't go his way.

Wasn't there an incident with Murton earlier this year where Zambrano showed him up? I can't recall what exactly happened, but I do vaguely remember something taking place.

 

I can remember one with Murton and one with Walker. I think there have been others as well.

 

Zambrano, as much as I've liked him, is a punk. His bravado is fun and entertaining when he's going well, like his predicting the Cubs will win 110 games or his claiming he'll win the Cy. But when things go bad, he's an immature jackass.

 

Barrett's an emotional player as well. We've seen this with Oswalt and AJ. The difference is Barrett is usually taking on the other team and not his own. That behavior may not be good, but it's world's better than pouting and blaming your own teammates.

 

Zambrano was acting like a baby and Barrett called him on his prima donna attitude. Maybe if Zambrano started throwing the ball better and quit trying to act like Kent Tekulve he'd get more outs this year.

 

I basically agree with you here. Barrett should not have started round 2, if indeed he did.

 

I'm withholding judgement on round 2 until I know more. While Barrett went into the clubhouse, right now we don't know what happened to re-ignite things.

 

Barrett may have gone in there to continue the fight, or he may have gone there to ask Z wtf was his problem. I don't know...and right now none of us do. We might never know.

 

But from what I saw on the tape, it was clear this was more a cause of Zambrano acting like a complete prima donna ass, and Barrett simply pointing that out.

[CubinNY]

This isn't the first time Zambrano has shown up a teammate. It's just that Barrett called him out for his own suckiness.

 

Barrett is not faultless in this, but it all began because Zambrano acts worse than a 11-year-old when things don't go his way.

Wasn't there an incident with Murton earlier this year where Zambrano showed him up? I can't recall what exactly happened, but I do vaguely remember something taking place.

 

I can remember one with Murton and one with Walker. I think there have been others as well.

 

Zambrano, as much as I've liked him, is a punk. His bravado is fun and entertaining when he's going well, like his predicting the Cubs will win 110 games or his claiming he'll win the Cy. But when things go bad, he's an immature jackass.

 

Barrett's an emotional player as well. We've seen this with Oswalt and AJ. The difference is Barrett is usually taking on the other team and not his own. That behavior may not be good, but it's world's better than pouting and blaming your own teammates.

 

Zambrano was acting like a baby and Barrett called him on his prima donna attitude. Maybe if Zambrano started throwing the ball better and quit trying to act like Kent Tekulve he'd get more outs this year.

 

I basically agree with you here. Barrett should not have started round 2, if indeed he did.

 

I'm withholding judgement on round 2 until I know more. While Barrett went into the clubhouse, right now we don't know what happened to re-ignite things.

 

Barrett may have gone in there to continue the fight, or he may have gone there to ask Z wtf was his problem. I don't know...and right now none of us do. We might never know.

 

But from what I saw on the tape, it was clear this was more a cause of Zambrano acting like a complete prima donna ass, and Barrett simply pointing that out.

 

Don't excuse Barrett. He's an ass that can't catch and hase gotten into altercations before.

 

There is no excuse for following Zambrano back into the lockerroom. None.

 

I've said this before, Barrett is a terrible catcher. Just terrible. He hops around behind the plate, sets up late or sometimes not at all, and gets crossed up far too often with too many pitchers.

 

Zambrano shouldn't have started this whole thing. IMO, he is the most to blame. However, all Barrett had to do was walk away. Instead, he pointed to the scoreboard. Then he goes back into the locker for whatever reason. He's an ass.

[Chocolate Milk]

However, all Barrett had to do was walk away. Instead, he pointed to the scoreboard.

 

This is a completely lame standard to hold Barrett to.

[Soriano12]

Screw Barrett and screw Zambrano. If they are pissed pick a fight with the other team, not your own teammate.

 

Screw this entire organization, pieces of crap.

[Derwood]

funny how this sort of thing rarely happens on winning ballclubs.

[CubinNY]

However, all Barrett had to do was walk away. Instead, he pointed to the scoreboard.

 

This is a completely lame standard to hold Barrett to.

 

Yes, professionalism went out with red leather jackets.

 

Give me a break.

[Soul]

I've said this before, Barrett is a terrible catcher. Just terrible. He hops around behind the plate, sets up late or sometimes not at all, and gets crossed up far too often with too many pitchers.

 

I don't get it though. Yeah, Barrett's never been an above average defensive catcher, but now he's just gone through the bottom of the tank. He's worse than a freaking pee wee catcher now.

 

I don't remember him being an idiot on the basepads like this either? Maybe a few times, but not every damn game?

 

 

What the hell, I really want to know why Barrett has tanked so sharply in such a short period of time.

 

Z I can understand a little. He's an abused pitcher and I'm convinced there is an unreported injury waiting to be revealed. I don't get Barrett.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

 

Don't excuse Barrett. He's an ass that can't catch and hase gotten into altercations before.

 

There is no excuse for following Zambrano back into the lockerroom. None.

 

I've said this before, Barrett is a terrible catcher. Just terrible. He hops around behind the plate, sets up late or sometimes not at all, and gets crossed up far too often with too many pitchers.

 

Zambrano shouldn't have started this whole thing. IMO, he is the most to blame. However, all Barrett had to do was walk away. Instead, he pointed to the scoreboard. Then he goes back into the locker for whatever reason. He's an ass.

 

The fact remains, Barrett's altercations have always happened with opponents. All Barrett did was say look at [expletive] scoreboard. You've given up a million hits today, don't blame this one on me.

 

Sure, Barrett could have walked away and avoided the whole thing. But some guys don't like getting called out like that. I know I wouldn't have. It's about time someone told Zambrano to stop acting like an 11-year-old.

 

Once again, we don't know why Barrett went into the clubhouse. Maybe he went there because he wanted to talk about it. Was that stupid? Considering how hotheaded and immature Zambrano is, yes. But it doesn't mean Barrett had no excuse to go there.

 

And regardless of how terrible a catcher Barrett may or may not be, Zambrano was out of line. I've taken up for Z for the last time. He's an immature brat and I hope his time with the Cubs ends shortly.

[YearofDaCubs]

Both of them are considered the two hot heads on the roster. Both are to blame and both will be disciplined. Barnum and Bailey never left town, they only changed their names to Chicago Cubs. Thank You Jimbo.

[Chocolate Milk]

However, all Barrett had to do was walk away. Instead, he pointed to the scoreboard.

 

This is a completely lame standard to hold Barrett to.

 

Yes, professionalism went out with red leather jackets.

 

Give me a break.

 

I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make here.

 

You don't like Michael Barrett, we get it. The fight was almost entirely Zambrano's fault. It's pretty obvious to everyone. Why does Barrett have to sit there and take a tongue lashing from one of the worst regular starting pitchers in baseball this year?

 

Zambrano was a complete joke today. Imagine the nerve of him to tell another player to "keep their head in the game." What a delusional maniac.

[Keener98]

However, all Barrett had to do was walk away. Instead, he pointed to the scoreboard.

 

This is a completely lame standard to hold Barrett to.

 

Yes, professionalism went out with red leather jackets.

 

Give me a break.

 

Was it professional of Z to try and make MB look like a bitch in front of his teammates? Z throwing his arms and yelling? Very few men could walk away when somebody is basically questioning thier manhood in front of the entire team.

[Soul]

Yeah, there appears to be no way to excuse Z's behavior today. We've always known he's not in control of his emotions. We've always hoped he would mature and get better.

 

Now it's pretty clear he's not doing it. Now that he can't dominate hitters, he's descending into the blame game and acting very poorly.

 

God, what a team.

[circlecitycub]

According to ESPN 1000, a reliable source said that Barrett went to the clubhouse to bury the hatchet and Z replied FU and popped him.

 

They weren't sure how valid the story was but said their source was pretty reliable.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

However, all Barrett had to do was walk away. Instead, he pointed to the scoreboard.

 

This is a completely lame standard to hold Barrett to.

 

Yes, professionalism went out with red leather jackets.

 

Give me a break.

 

I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make here.

 

You don't like Michael Barrett, we get it. The fight was almost entirely Zambrano's fault. It's pretty obvious to everyone. Why does Barrett have to sit there and take a tongue lashing from one of the worst regular starting pitchers in baseball this year?

 

Zambrano was a complete joke today. Imagine the nerve of him to tell another player to "keep their head in the game." What a delusional maniac.

 

Good point.

 

I consider myself a professional. I usually act such at work. But if a colleague walked into my classroom, called me a horrible teacher in front of my students, and insulted my intelligence while I was aware that he had deficiencies of his own, I'd probably point those out at that time. While it might not be the most professional way to handle the situation, I'm also likely not the one to be blamed either.

 

Zambrano acted like an [expletive]. Barrett pointed that out. Maybe at that point Z should have sat his fat ass down and taken it. The initial altercation is all on Z. What happened in the clubhouse later, I don't know.

[Chocolate Milk]

According to ESPN 1000, a reliable source said that Barrett went to the clubhouse to bury the hatchet and Z replied FU and popped him.

 

They weren't sure how valid the story was but said their source was pretty reliable.

 

Classy.

[CubinNY]

However, all Barrett had to do was walk away. Instead, he pointed to the scoreboard.

 

This is a completely lame standard to hold Barrett to.

 

Yes, professionalism went out with red leather jackets.

 

Give me a break.

 

I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make here.

 

You don't like Michael Barrett, we get it. The fight was almost entirely Zambrano's fault. It's pretty obvious to everyone. Why does Barrett have to sit there and take a tongue lashing from one of the worst regular starting pitchers in baseball this year?

 

Zambrano was a complete joke today. Imagine the nerve of him to tell another player to "keep their head in the game." What a delusional maniac.

 

My point is that it seems to me that many people are making Barrett the victim here. Zambrano is not the first Cub pitcher to have a problem with Barrett. Prior and Maddux both have had problems with him in the past.

 

Z is/was stupid. Z should not have done what he did.

 

Barrett on the other hand instigated the altercation by pointing to the freaking scoreboard after he made two stupid mistakes on one play.

 

It's seems to me that both are in the wrong here.

[Soul]

According to ESPN 1000, a reliable source said that Barrett went to the clubhouse to bury the hatchet and Z replied FU and popped him.

 

They weren't sure how valid the story was but said their source was pretty reliable.

 

Classy.

 

LOL, yeah. Wonderful isn't it?

 

Who knows if it's true, but just looking at Z and the way the whole day went, it wouldn't be suprising.