How long 'till Eyre is released?

[jersey cubs fan]

IMO, Eyre got the DP ground ball, but Theriot for some season gets the worst "jumps" on groundballs of any middle IF I have ever seen. I actually thought Eyre did his job today

 

By giving up a hit to the first batter he faced? Even if Theriot gets to that he isnt going to have much on the throw to 2nd and Delgado probably beats it out anyway. Eyre sucks plain and simple.

 

A ground ball is a groundball, it could be a rocket right at the 3rd baseman and we say the guy did his job, or it could be a dribbler through the hole and he choked. This stuff happens.

 

Agreed. Eyre's job was to get a ground ball and he did. What are you going to do.

 

Drink myself silly, that's what I'm going to do.

[Shilzzz]

STAY THE COURSE!!!

[rynefan]

I knew someone would defend Eyre

[abuck1220]

I knew someone would defend Eyre

 

i don't think anyone's defending him outside of today.

[Rusch33]

STAY THE COURSE!!!

 

 

Ok George W.

[Soul]

STAY THE COURSE!!!

 

 

Ok George W.

 

Think MLB would sign off on a Cub troop surge?

[gflore34]

I was hoping, at the very least, this morning, to read about Eyre mysteriously coming up lame and Marmol or Cherry called up. Edited May 18, 2007 by gflore34

[Pinktermite]

Eyre is going nowhere. And with the team ownership in transition, we have what we have. Nothing will change. We can only hope that they get some guts and iron things out or that the offense will score more runs than they have.

[Soul]

We're reaching the point where the Trib's going to have to allow something to happen, otherwise with each game we fall further behind, the amount of money the Cubs will sell for drops.

 

You have a massive payroll with locked in contracts. If that results in last place baseball, it will negatively affect the value of that ballclub because it's additional cost the new owner will have to take on to fix the situation.

 

 

Something will have to happen, one way or the other.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I don't think Eyre is going anywhere unless you trade him in a swap for some other team's problems.

[C.C.]

I don't think Eyre is going anywhere unless you trade him in a swap for some other team's problems.

 

Espically when he's making 3 million. You'd have to eat some of that contract.

[C.C.]

We're reaching the point where the Trib's going to have to allow something to happen, otherwise with each game we fall further behind, the amount of money the Cubs will sell for drops.

 

You have a massive payroll with locked in contracts. If that results in last place baseball, it will negatively affect the value of that ballclub because it's additional cost the new owner will have to take on to fix the situation.

 

 

Something will have to happen, one way or the other.

 

True. Very true. I'm not sure what they can do. Bring up Marshall and stick Guzman in the Pen? I don't know?

[JGalt73]

Eyre currently ranks 458th of 461 relievers in adding to team wins from the bullpen (BP's WXRL). So when you say he's bad, there are only 3 relief pitchers that have been worse all year...

[killthegoat06]

Eyre won't be released because Hendry doesn't admit to mistakes

[NCCubFan]

Then McDonough should step in and tell Hendry to release him.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think it would be a mistake to release Eyre.

 

 

Although if it gets to the point where he's the fans' whipping boy in Wrigley, and the boo him mercilesslly, then they might just be forced to give him away. But they still won't release him, they will trade him, even if they get a C prospect and have to pay half the salary.

 

I know he's been bad most of the year, but I still think it's a mistake to blame him for yesterday.

[TruffleShuffle]

I think it would be a mistake to release Eyre.

 

 

Although if it gets to the point where he's the fans' whipping boy in Wrigley, and the boo him mercilesslly, then they might just be forced to give him away. But they still won't release him, they will trade him, even if they get a C prospect and have to pay half the salary.

 

I know he's been bad most of the year, but I still think it's a mistake to blame him for yesterday.

 

Problem is, he's been so bad that you just cannot pitch him in close games. How can you have a guy on the team who can't play except in games that become a joke? With a competitive team, that's wasting a roster spot that could be used to win close games. With a bad team (i.e., this one), it's wasting a spot that could be used to test minor leaguers for next year.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think it would be a mistake to release Eyre.

 

 

Although if it gets to the point where he's the fans' whipping boy in Wrigley, and the boo him mercilesslly, then they might just be forced to give him away. But they still won't release him, they will trade him, even if they get a C prospect and have to pay half the salary.

 

I know he's been bad most of the year, but I still think it's a mistake to blame him for yesterday.

 

Problem is, he's been so bad that you just cannot pitch him in close games. How can you have a guy on the team who can't play except in games that become a joke? With a competitive team, that's wasting a roster spot that could be used to win close games. With a bad team (i.e., this one), it's wasting a spot that could be used to test minor leaguers for next year.

 

That's fine and all, but a release just forces the Cubs to pay him to play for somebody else, and will probably cause them to go out and spend on another inconsistent reliever. The key word here is inconsistent. It's not like Eyre is Neifi Perez where you can count on him to suck day in and day out. They shouldn't have signed him to that deal, but unless you can trade him away, you are probably better off trying to get him to work through the struggles.

 

Nobody in the minors is an obvious candidate to do better.

 

The Cubs are stuck. Hendry made the mess and they really can only try and right the ship, or cut bait at the deadline.

 

Releasing Eyre solves nothing right now aside from appeasing an angry fan base. It would be a move based on emotion rather than one where there's an obvious improvement to the team.

[mg420]

I think it would be a mistake to release Eyre.

 

 

Although if it gets to the point where he's the fans' whipping boy in Wrigley, and the boo him mercilesslly, then they might just be forced to give him away. But they still won't release him, they will trade him, even if they get a C prospect and have to pay half the salary.

 

I know he's been bad most of the year, but I still think it's a mistake to blame him for yesterday.

 

Problem is, he's been so bad that you just cannot pitch him in close games. How can you have a guy on the team who can't play except in games that become a joke? With a competitive team, that's wasting a roster spot that could be used to win close games. With a bad team (i.e., this one), it's wasting a spot that could be used to test minor leaguers for next year.

 

That's fine and all, but a release just forces the Cubs to pay him to play for somebody else, and will probably cause them to go out and spend on another inconsistent reliever. The key word here is inconsistent. It's not like Eyre is Neifi Perez where you can count on him to suck day in and day out. They shouldn't have signed him to that deal, but unless you can trade him away, you are probably better off trying to get him to work through the struggles.

 

Nobody in the minors is an obvious candidate to do better.

 

The Cubs are stuck. Hendry made the mess and they really can only try and right the ship, or cut bait at the deadline.

 

Releasing Eyre solves nothing right now aside from appeasing an angry fan base. It would be a move based on emotion rather than one where there's an obvious improvement to the team.

 

if used properly i think that either pignatello or rapada would do a much better job than eyre.

[gflore34]

I think it would be a mistake to release Eyre.

 

 

Although if it gets to the point where he's the fans' whipping boy in Wrigley, and the boo him mercilesslly, then they might just be forced to give him away. But they still won't release him, they will trade him, even if they get a C prospect and have to pay half the salary.

 

I know he's been bad most of the year, but I still think it's a mistake to blame him for yesterday.

 

Problem is, he's been so bad that you just cannot pitch him in close games. How can you have a guy on the team who can't play except in games that become a joke? With a competitive team, that's wasting a roster spot that could be used to win close games. With a bad team (i.e., this one), it's wasting a spot that could be used to test minor leaguers for next year.

 

That's fine and all, but a release just forces the Cubs to pay him to play for somebody else, and will probably cause them to go out and spend on another inconsistent reliever. The key word here is inconsistent. It's not like Eyre is Neifi Perez where you can count on him to suck day in and day out. They shouldn't have signed him to that deal, but unless you can trade him away, you are probably better off trying to get him to work through the struggles.

 

Nobody in the minors is an obvious candidate to do better.

 

The Cubs are stuck. Hendry made the mess and they really can only try and right the ship, or cut bait at the deadline.

 

Releasing Eyre solves nothing right now aside from appeasing an angry fan base. It would be a move based on emotion rather than one where there's an obvious improvement to the team.

 

if used properly i think that either pignatello or rapada would do a much better job than eyre.

 

Add Cherry to the to the above list, he and Pignatiello have, at the very least, shown the ability to throw strikes - Cherry yet to issue a BB in 9 and a third IP, Pignatiello only 3 BB's in a combined 15 and a third IP(West Tenneesee and Iowa). Marmol, despite being used primarily as a starter, may be an option as well.

[jersey cubs fan]

Cherry yet to issue a BB in 9 and a third IP,

 

He's walked 3 in the majors.

 

And do people not remember Marmol walked 59 guys in 77 innings for the Cubs last year?

 

None of these guys is a lock to do any better.

[mg420]

Cherry yet to issue a BB in 9 and a third IP,

 

He's walked 3 in the majors.

 

And do people not remember Marmol walked 59 guys in 77 innings for the Cubs last year?

 

None of these guys is a lock to do any better.

 

there is no such thing as a "lock to do any better" in baseball. all they can do is give the best talent a chance to succeed. at this point there are several players in the minors who can come up and contribute more than some of the veterens in the pen. marmol probably needs more seasoning in iowa in the pen but cherry, rapada and pignatello are ready imo.

[abuck1220]

Eyre, who has struggled most of the year, wasn't apologetic.

 

"I made the pitches I want to make: David Wright, a sinker down and away," said Eyre, who suffered his third blown save. "I got him to ground out two nights ago. This time, I don't think he got the ball out of the infield on the fly. Delgado hit a groundball through the infield. I got a groundball. I'm not going to sit here and whine about it, you know?"

 

hey, you know what, scotty, since you got wright out two nights ago, i guess i'm not mad at you for giving up the hit yesterday. getting him out two days ago is good enough for me.

[jersey cubs fan]

Eyre, who has struggled most of the year, wasn't apologetic.

 

"I made the pitches I want to make: David Wright, a sinker down and away," said Eyre, who suffered his third blown save. "I got him to ground out two nights ago. This time, I don't think he got the ball out of the infield on the fly. Delgado hit a groundball through the infield. I got a groundball. I'm not going to sit here and whine about it, you know?"

 

hey, you know what, scotty, since you got wright out two nights ago, i guess i'm not mad at you for giving up the hit yesterday. getting him out two days ago is good enough for me.

 

I don't understand getting pissed at pitchers for giving up hits. All the pitcher can do is throw the ball. A ball in play that isn't a rocket/homer is going to fall in or be an out pretty much at random.

[YearofDaCubs]

With Marmol coming up, I think someone is going to be a goner soon.