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The Dodgers aren't doing much better. Juan Pierre and Luis Gonzalez in the outfield when they have Kemp, Loney, Ethier, Delwyn Young that can all play some outfield?

 

I fully expect them to trade for someone to block LaRoche next.

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The Dodgers aren't doing much better. Juan Pierre and Luis Gonzalez in the outfield when they have Kemp, Loney, Ethier, Delwyn Young that can all play some outfield?

 

I fully expect them to trade for someone to block LaRoche next.

I thought the worst thing about last year's baseball season was Marlon Anderson taking away abs from Ethier. As soon as they got that guy I knew it was going to happen too. Organizations like Oakland and Atlanta have to just cringe when teams do this.

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Back to the original trade idea, is anyone else concerned with whether or not ARod could move back to SS? I wouldn't think it'd be easy to go back to after a few years in your 30s. Not that he wasn't a good SS before, but it's a harder position to play when you're older, and ARod never really had a typical career SSs build on him anyways. I'm not saying he can't do it, just that I don't know if I'd make that move banking on him making that transition seamlessly. Its risky. If he couldn't do it, you still have Izzy on the roster, but now you're obligating yourself into either trading ARam (and you'd lose bargaining power if the other team knows you must trade because of the logjam with ARod), or convince ARod into moving into a corner OF position, and trading someone else. Risky proposition no matter what.
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I'd love to trade Z to get A-Rod as much as the next guy, but I don't think it will happen.

 

Sure, right now, Yankee fans love him. what happens if he goes on a cold streak? They'll turn on him in a heartbeat and it'll get to him.

 

I think the rumor of him opting out and joining the Cubs in the offseason to be with Lou is more feasible than a trade right now.

 

If we trade Zambrano, he could net us some incredibly good prospects, which in all honesty, I'd prefer to get than A-Rod. The question is which prospects are expendable?

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I'd love to trade Z to get A-Rod as much as the next guy, but I don't think it will happen.

 

Sure, right now, Yankee fans love him. what happens if he goes on a cold streak? They'll turn on him in a heartbeat and it'll get to him.

 

I think the rumor of him opting out and joining the Cubs in the offseason to be with Lou is more feasible than a trade right now.

 

If we trade Zambrano, he could net us some incredibly good prospects, which in all honesty, I'd prefer to get than A-Rod. The question is which prospects are expendable?

If I'm going to trade Z and bag a big name in return, I'd rather seek a three way trade and get Miggy Cabrera than ARod. Get whatever prospects that Florida wants for Z, then send those prospects plus Murton if need be to Florida for Cabrera. Either that, or see who else the Mets would throw in on top of Milledge for Z. Milledge alone doesn't do it, but he'd be a good starting centerpiece.

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I'd love to trade Z to get A-Rod as much as the next guy, but I don't think it will happen.

 

Sure, right now, Yankee fans love him. what happens if he goes on a cold streak? They'll turn on him in a heartbeat and it'll get to him.

 

I think the rumor of him opting out and joining the Cubs in the offseason to be with Lou is more feasible than a trade right now.

 

If we trade Zambrano, he could net us some incredibly good prospects, which in all honesty, I'd prefer to get than A-Rod. The question is which prospects are expendable?

If I'm going to trade Z and bag a big name in return, I'd rather seek a three way trade and get Miggy Cabrera than ARod. Get whatever prospects that Florida wants for Z, then send those prospects plus Murton if need be to Florida for Cabrera. Either that, or see who else the Mets would throw in on top of Milledge for Z. Milledge alone doesn't do it, but he'd be a good starting centerpiece.

 

I'm assuming a move of Cabrera back to the OF? If we could land Cabrera, which would seem unlikely, it would be one of the best moves out there.

 

I hope Loria dumb enough to let him loose

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I'd love to trade Z to get A-Rod as much as the next guy, but I don't think it will happen.

 

Sure, right now, Yankee fans love him. what happens if he goes on a cold streak? They'll turn on him in a heartbeat and it'll get to him.

 

I think the rumor of him opting out and joining the Cubs in the offseason to be with Lou is more feasible than a trade right now.

 

If we trade Zambrano, he could net us some incredibly good prospects, which in all honesty, I'd prefer to get than A-Rod. The question is which prospects are expendable?

If I'm going to trade Z and bag a big name in return, I'd rather seek a three way trade and get Miggy Cabrera than ARod. Get whatever prospects that Florida wants for Z, then send those prospects plus Murton if need be to Florida for Cabrera. Either that, or see who else the Mets would throw in on top of Milledge for Z. Milledge alone doesn't do it, but he'd be a good starting centerpiece.

 

I'm assuming a move of Cabrera back to the OF? If we could land Cabrera, which would seem unlikely, it would be one of the best moves out there.

 

I hope Loria dumb enough to let him loose

That would be the plan. We don't need to improve at 3b or 1b, we could use more production in the OF.
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As much as the Yankees need pitching, I can't imagine where they would be without ARod's hitting right now. Personally, I don't think ARod is going anywhere.

 

Have you seen the Yankees lineup? You could take out any one of their hitters that you want to and they would still have one of the top lineups in the majors.

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I think it's kind of funny that people think A-Rod would come to Chicago just because Piniella is here.

 

If he does become a free agent, Anaheim will throw the world at him.

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I think it's kind of funny that people think A-Rod would come to Chicago just because Piniella is here.

 

If he does become a free agent, Anaheim will throw the world at him.

Well then that would make Brandon Wood expendable.

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ARod is a pipe dream at this point. It makes me sick to think how good the Cubs could have been in 2008 if they had written off 2007, had a big firesale mid-2006 and traded Z, Aram, Barrett and others for people who could have helped in 2008(including ARod), and postponed the big spending spree for one year. We would have been the favorites to win the WS. Instead we sacrificed it all for a half-assed run in 2007. It's too late now for a lot of things, and a Z-for-ARod trade is one them. The Yanks won't do it now. We also can't erase that crappy Soriano contract, among others.
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My biggest problem with the original post was that it still had Wade Miller in the rotation. Any one of us would probably be an upgrade at this point.
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I posted this in another thread, but I must be really missing something (not a suprise I'm not a real contract/MLB transactions kind of guy).

 

I don't understand why a team would throw us their best players or prospects for Z when he's going to be a FA at season's end anyway. They would still need to resign the guy for incredible money. Are they just going to give us a guy like Cabrera so he doesn't hit the market? That seems like a pretty steep price to pay.

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I posted this in another thread, but I must be really missing something (not a suprise I'm not a real contract/MLB transactions kind of guy).

 

I don't understand why a team would throw us their best players or prospects for Z when he's going to be a FA at season's end anyway. They would still need to resign the guy for incredible money. Are they just going to give us a guy like Cabrera so he doesn't hit the market? That seems like a pretty steep price to pay.

 

When he hits FA, teams that can afford him will be lining up so you may have to drastically overpay if you really want him. Throwing players that may or may not become long-term valuable players with the hopes of signing Z to an extension at a lower rate than if he were a FA isn't such a bad idea.

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While I would love to have A-Rod, I'm thinking the better deal would be Santana and Wood. Wood is going to come very close to the production of A-Rod in the next year or two, and Santana is on his way to becoming an ace.

 

Aramis, Wood, Patterson and Lee will be one of the best infields in baseball. An outfield of Soriano, Pie and Murton and eventually Colvin will make this team very exciting to watch.

 

I just don't see LAA trading for Zambrano. He has no contract beyond this year and they'd be giving up the best prospect in baseball and a pitcher who could end up being as good or better than Zambrano, and a guy who they control for a few more years at a minimal cost compared to Zambrano.

 

And if Zambrano doesn't get things straightened out soon, nobody will want him.

 

You don't really believe this, do you? Wood is going to be good, sure, but not one of the top 2 offensive players in the game. Especially not in two years.

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A lot of if's...but if the rest of our pitchers held up like they are throwing and we had someone other than miller for the 5th spot. it might make sense. we certainly have a huge hole at short and cedeno no longer looks like a solution in the future.

arod would certainly fill that and help our o.

as far as anyone else unless jacque goes we don't have a place for miggy. yes i know we would make a spot but why trade for another outfielder who is not a cf. we have jones,soriano,floyd and murton plus pie. we either need a real cf(or pie) not another corner no matter how good

with arod/soriano/lee/aram we could certainly live with a .300 hitting corner outdfielder who does the little things well.

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A lot of if's...but if the rest of our pitchers held up like they are throwing and we had someone other than miller for the 5th spot. it might make sense. we certainly have a huge hole at short and cedeno no longer looks like a solution in the future.

arod would certainly fill that and help our o.

as far as anyone else unless jacque goes we don't have a place for miggy. yes i know we would make a spot but why trade for another outfielder who is not a cf. we have jones,soriano,floyd and murton plus pie. we either need a real cf(or pie) not another corner no matter how good

with arod/soriano/lee/aram we could certainly live with a .300 hitting corner outdfielder who does the little things well.

Cabrera is good enough that if you really did land him, Jones is expendable under any circumstance. If you had to cut Jones in order to squeeze in Miggy, then sorry, Jacque.

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A lot of if's...but if the rest of our pitchers held up like they are throwing and we had someone other than miller for the 5th spot. it might make sense. we certainly have a huge hole at short and cedeno no longer looks like a solution in the future.

arod would certainly fill that and help our o.

as far as anyone else unless jacque goes we don't have a place for miggy. yes i know we would make a spot but why trade for another outfielder who is not a cf. we have jones,soriano,floyd and murton plus pie. we either need a real cf(or pie) not another corner no matter how good

with arod/soriano/lee/aram we could certainly live with a .300 hitting corner outdfielder who does the little things well.

Cabrera is good enough that if you really did land him, Jones is expendable under any circumstance. If you had to cut Jones in order to squeeze in Miggy, then sorry, Jacque.

 

That OF defense with Soriano in LF and Miggy in RF sure wouldn't be pretty, but I guess having Superman (Pie) in Cf along with the combined offense that an OF like that would bring I wouldn't mind it too much.

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ARod is a pipe dream at this point. It makes me sick to think how good the Cubs could have been in 2008 if they had written off 2007, had a big firesale mid-2006 and traded Z, Aram, Barrett and others for people who could have helped in 2008(including ARod), and postponed the big spending spree for one year. We would have been the favorites to win the WS. Instead we sacrificed it all for a half-assed run in 2007. It's too late now for a lot of things, and a Z-for-ARod trade is one them. The Yanks won't do it now. We also can't erase that crappy Soriano contract, among others.

Total pipe dream. We're not ending up with ARod.

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Izturis and Cedeno for Arod. Yanks should do it. Izturis is leading the league in runs gloved in.

 

They've already got Jeter, and Izturis bat doesn't play anywhere. Especially not 3B.

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Izturis and Cedeno for Arod. Yanks should do it. Izturis is leading the league in runs gloved in.

 

They've already got Jeter, and Izturis bat doesn't play anywhere. Especially not 3B.

Fine. Izturis, Jones, Eyre for Jeter, ARod. Yanks better take it before we change our mind.

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