Dayn Perry: Cubs only have a decent shot to win NL Central

[tkenm356]

Dayn Perry is a moron.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6407078

 

I'm not trying to say that the Cubs will surely win, but this guy is ignorant... particularly:

 

Jacque Jones must be platooned. Religiously. Jones has never been able to hit lefties, and with Matt Murton on the roster (and now out of a starting job) there's no need to run him out there against port-siders.

 

Speaking of Murton, if Floyd is hitting as he did in '06 and not like he did in '05, then Murton needs to regain the starting job in left.

 

I think I'll take Lou Piniella's word over Dayn Perry's any day. Apparently he doesn't like to research quotes from the source and instead assumes Murphy's Law is in effect.

 

Not only that, but he's quoting everything everyone already knows and is adding nothing new to the table...

 

Lee must stay healthy.

 

Kerry Wood needs to work out of the bullpen and eventually become the closer.

 

Carlos Zambrano needs to be signed to a contract extension sooner rather than later.

 

No kidding? Welcome back to 2006, Dayn Perry. This one really upset me, but in all honesty, people have arguments about this daily...

 

Manager Lou Piniella needs to resist the temptation to bat Soriano in the leadoff spot. Soriano is a great power source, but he's not an on-base threat, which is what the table-setter needs to be. Bat him in the middle of the order, where his home runs will mean more.

 

This one pisses me off because I'm a "Soriano For Lead-Off" advocate. Soriano's worst days as a hitter came in Texas where he batted 3rd and 5th in the middle of a lineup that included Blalock, Young, and Teixieria in one of the most favorable hitter's parks in all of baseball. Soriano's best days as a hitter came in the lead-off spot for the Yankees and the Nats. His best OBP comes out of the lead-off spot, as well as his best AVG, SLG, and thus his best OPS.

 

Dayn Perry is an imbecil.

 

I'd post this in the rants section but that seems mostly reserved for non-Cub issues

[A New Era]

Dayn Perry is ugly, stupid, and his mom hates him.

 

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[Guest]

Dayn Perry is a moron.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6407078

 

I'm not trying to say that the Cubs will surely win, but this guy is ignorant... particularly:

 

Jacque Jones must be platooned. Religiously. Jones has never been able to hit lefties, and with Matt Murton on the roster (and now out of a starting job) there's no need to run him out there against port-siders.

 

Speaking of Murton, if Floyd is hitting as he did in '06 and not like he did in '05, then Murton needs to regain the starting job in left.

 

I think I'll take Lou Piniella's word over Dayn Perry's any day. Apparently he doesn't like to research quotes from the source and instead assumes Murphy's Law is in effect.

 

Not only that, but he's quoting everything everyone already knows and is adding nothing new to the table...

 

Lee must stay healthy.

 

Kerry Wood needs to work out of the bullpen and eventually become the closer.

 

Carlos Zambrano needs to be signed to a contract extension sooner rather than later.

 

No kidding? Welcome back to 2006, Dayn Perry. This one really upset me, but in all honesty, people have arguments about this daily...

 

Manager Lou Piniella needs to resist the temptation to bat Soriano in the leadoff spot. Soriano is a great power source, but he's not an on-base threat, which is what the table-setter needs to be. Bat him in the middle of the order, where his home runs will mean more.

 

This one pisses me off because I'm a "Soriano For Lead-Off" advocate. Soriano's worst days as a hitter came in Texas where he batted 3rd and 5th in the middle of a lineup that included Blalock, Young, and Teixieria in one of the most favorable hitter's parks in all of baseball. Soriano's best days as a hitter came in the lead-off spot for the Yankees and the Nats. His best OBP comes out of the lead-off spot, as well as his best AVG, SLG, and thus his best OPS.

 

Dayn Perry is an imbecil.

 

I'd post this in the rants section but that seems mostly reserved for non-Cub issues

 

Do you expect anything more from a Cardinal sympthizer?

[XZero771679666304]

I am surprised FOX lets and unabashed Cardinal homer like Perry write articles about the NL central. He's incapable of being objective. I guess it's typical of the company, though.

 

Plus he's a moron.

 

Also, wasn't Soriano given assurances that he would bat leadoff? I thought it was a done deal that he would bat 1st.

[rawaction]

I am surprised FOX lets and unabashed Cardinal homer like Perry write articles about the NL central. He's incapable of being objective. I guess it's typical of the company, though.

 

The network allows one to call its nationally televised games.

[XZero771679666304]

I am surprised FOX lets and unabashed Cardinal homer like Perry write articles about the NL central. He's incapable of being objective. I guess it's typical of the company, though.

 

The network allows one to call its nationally televised games.

 

True enough. But as bad as that is, Buck's allegiance is less obvious than Perry's, IMO. It's poor form in both cases, especially teaming Buck with McCarver. It would've been like having Harry and Santo call a nationally televised Cubs game.

[rawaction]

I am surprised FOX lets and unabashed Cardinal homer like Perry write articles about the NL central. He's incapable of being objective. I guess it's typical of the company, though.

 

The network allows one to call its nationally televised games.

 

True enough. But as bad as that is, Buck's allegiance is less obvious than Perry's, IMO. It's poor form in both cases, especially teaming Buck with McCarver. It would've been like having Harry and Santo call a nationally televised Cubs game.

 

My life has less joy because that never actually happened.

[UMFan83]

He's right though...

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Last season the Cubs finished in last place and 17.5 games out of first place, so there's much ground to make up. If you look at the team's runs scored and runs allowed, you find that the Cubs should've finished 70-92 instead of their actual record of 66-96. The upshot is that they weren't quite as bad as you might think. But have they done enough to make up, say, 15 games in the standings?

 

I hate hate hate hate hate hate this argument.

[BigbadB]

Last time I looked, the Cubs were tied for 1st. Or last, whichever way you like to look at a glass of water.

 

The Cubs don't have any games to make up. It's a good thing, too.

[CubColtPacer]

Last season the Cubs finished in last place and 17.5 games out of first place, so there's much ground to make up. If you look at the team's runs scored and runs allowed, you find that the Cubs should've finished 70-92 instead of their actual record of 66-96. The upshot is that they weren't quite as bad as you might think. But have they done enough to make up, say, 15 games in the standings?

 

I hate hate hate hate hate hate this argument.

 

The taking their record and projecting additions? So do I-especially considering 2 things. 1) The Cubs tanked most of the end of the season in order to do their more valuable thing of figuring out who could contribute in 2007, and 2) Sometimes even one change can turn a losing team into a winning team, or vice versa.

 

I'd rather just throw out the 2006 record almost entirely and just compare the team directly to the other teams in the league and division-if they are better, then they are better.

[Mizzou]

How many anti-Cubs articles does he write per week? This dude is obsessed with the Cubs.

[NCCubFan]

Last time I looked, the Cubs were tied for 1st. Or last, whichever way you like to look at a glass of water.

 

The Cubs don't have any games to make up. It's a good thing, too.

This reminds me of the NFL Network commercials that ran starting right after the Super Bowl a couple of times (I don't think there was one last year, but there was each of the two previous years) where well-known players from non-Super Bowl teams (I remember Peyton Manning in particulat) took turns singing the song "Tomorrow" from Annie. The tag line was that tomorrow everybody is 0-0.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Dayn Perry more like Dayn Fairy m i rite?

[tkenm356]

Dayn Perry more like Dayn Fairy m i rite?

 

LOL. That sounds like something I would say to my friends regarding anything.

[tkenm356]

He's right though...

 

Only in the sense that he's stating the obvious flaws/needs for the Cubs to be successful that others have been saying since just before the season ended. Why even waste your time rehashing the same old crap everyone already knows and has said months ago? Not only that, but say things that aren't even true because you're too lazy to do a little research or make a few phone calls. This guy is a hack-ass reporter

[Coach C]

The only way the Cubs are going to win the NL Central in my opinion is the following:

 

- Play the regulars in their correct positions and position in the batting order.

 

- Platoon Jones and Floyd in RF, while Murton gets most of the playing time in LF.

 

- Health is the issue. If the Cubs stay healthy for the most part, or not losing an "important" player for long periods of time (See D.Lee last year).

 

- Starting Pitching could be the "?". How that will go, will be seen.

 

- Bullpen looks good on paper. They must back it up on the diamond.

[Dirt Dog Sparly]

The only way the Cubs are going to win the NL Central in my opinion is the following:

 

- Play the regulars in their correct positions and position in the batting order.

 

- Platoon Jones and Floyd in RF, while Murton gets most of the playing time in LF.

 

- Health is the issue. If the Cubs stay healthy for the most part, or not losing an "important" player for long periods of time (See D.Lee last year).

 

- Starting Pitching could be the "?". How that will go, will be seen.

 

- Bullpen looks good on paper. They must back it up on the diamond.

 

You are saying the same things that most coaches are this time of year :wink:

 

On topic Dayn Perry should not be expected to put together Pulitzer Prize journalism. He is a hack writer, has been and always will be. Its like the traffic accident. Every one slows down to look at the carnage.

[nilodnayr]

1) The Cubs tanked most of the end of the season in order to do their more valuable thing of figuring out who could contribute in 2007.

 

That would be a great argument if it was true. In Sept the team had a .414 winning percentage...better than their season total of .407. Who did we play other than Theriot, who was awesome?

[nilodnayr]

I hate Perry, but I agree with the majority of things he said in the article. The only thing I would disagree with are the assumption that Floyd has the starting role and Murton does not. HOWEVER, I can definitely understand the assumption. Lou was pimping Murt at the convention, but I still don't think anyone can definitely say that Floyd will not significantly eat into his playing time. I would also say that the cubs biggest problem is getting on base, which they did not address in the offseason. Other than that, everything he said has been said on here a ton. Just because it says Dayn Perry on the by line everyone is jumping all over it.

 

Yeah, he has stated the obvious, prior, lee, wood need to be healthy, but come on, the guy is writing an article on the cubs chances of winning the division. He HAS to say those things, even if they are obvious.

[CP_414]

I hate Perry, but I agree with the majority of things he said in the article. The only thing I would disagree with are the assumption that Floyd has the starting role and Murton does not. HOWEVER, I can definitely understand the assumption. Lou was pimping Murt at the convention, but I still don't think anyone can definitely say that Floyd will not significantly eat into his playing time. I would also say that the cubs biggest problem is getting on base, which they did not address in the offseason. Other than that, everything he said has been said on here a ton. Just because it says Dayn Perry on the by line everyone is jumping all over it.

 

Yeah, he has stated the obvious, prior, lee, wood need to be healthy, but come on, the guy is writing an article on the cubs chances of winning the division. He HAS to say those things, even if they are obvious.

 

The problem is he could have wrote the same things for every team in the division.

 

The Cards need Pujols, Rolen, Carpenter healthy

The Astros need Berkman, Lee, Oswalt healthy

The Brewers need Sheets, Fielder, Weeks healthy

 

Every team in this division has tons of questions going into the season. What kind of production can the Cards get from the rotation after Carpenter? What kind of offensive production will they get from Molina, Kennedy, Encarnarcion? Will Edmonds continue his decline? Can the Astros keep Clemens? Do they have enough pitching without him to carry an average offense? What kind of offense can the Brewers get from LF, RF, SS and 3b? Is the bullpen good enough to protect leads in Milwaukee?

 

Of course there are concerns about the Cubs, but there are just as many concerns about the Cards, Astros, and Brewers. It's a weak division.

[nilodnayr]

I hate Perry, but I agree with the majority of things he said in the article. The only thing I would disagree with are the assumption that Floyd has the starting role and Murton does not. HOWEVER, I can definitely understand the assumption. Lou was pimping Murt at the convention, but I still don't think anyone can definitely say that Floyd will not significantly eat into his playing time. I would also say that the cubs biggest problem is getting on base, which they did not address in the offseason. Other than that, everything he said has been said on here a ton. Just because it says Dayn Perry on the by line everyone is jumping all over it.

 

Yeah, he has stated the obvious, prior, lee, wood need to be healthy, but come on, the guy is writing an article on the cubs chances of winning the division. He HAS to say those things, even if they are obvious.

 

The problem is he could have wrote the same things for every team in the division.

 

The Cards need Pujols, Rolen, Carpenter healthy

The Astros need Berkman, Lee, Oswalt healthy

The Brewers need Sheets, Fielder, Weeks healthy

 

Every team in this division has tons of questions going into the season. What kind of production can the Cards get from the rotation after Carpenter? What kind of offensive production will they get from Molina, Kennedy, Encarnarcion? Will Edmonds continue his decline? Can the Astros keep Clemens? Do they have enough pitching without him to carry an average offense? What kind of offense can the Brewers get from LF, RF, SS and 3b? Is the bullpen good enough to protect leads in Milwaukee?

 

Of course there are concerns about the Cubs, but there are just as many concerns about the Cards, Astros, and Brewers. It's a weak division.

 

Except most of those ifs really arent ifs.

 

He mentions the division is extremely weak and very winnable (he hates on the cards rotation and assumes clemens is gone). His point is just that even though the cubs spent a ton of money they arent a clear favorite. I think thats a fine premise for an article.

[CP_414]

I hate Perry, but I agree with the majority of things he said in the article. The only thing I would disagree with are the assumption that Floyd has the starting role and Murton does not. HOWEVER, I can definitely understand the assumption. Lou was pimping Murt at the convention, but I still don't think anyone can definitely say that Floyd will not significantly eat into his playing time. I would also say that the cubs biggest problem is getting on base, which they did not address in the offseason. Other than that, everything he said has been said on here a ton. Just because it says Dayn Perry on the by line everyone is jumping all over it.

 

Yeah, he has stated the obvious, prior, lee, wood need to be healthy, but come on, the guy is writing an article on the cubs chances of winning the division. He HAS to say those things, even if they are obvious.

 

The problem is he could have wrote the same things for every team in the division.

 

The Cards need Pujols, Rolen, Carpenter healthy

The Astros need Berkman, Lee, Oswalt healthy

The Brewers need Sheets, Fielder, Weeks healthy

 

Every team in this division has tons of questions going into the season. What kind of production can the Cards get from the rotation after Carpenter? What kind of offensive production will they get from Molina, Kennedy, Encarnarcion? Will Edmonds continue his decline? Can the Astros keep Clemens? Do they have enough pitching without him to carry an average offense? What kind of offense can the Brewers get from LF, RF, SS and 3b? Is the bullpen good enough to protect leads in Milwaukee?

 

Of course there are concerns about the Cubs, but there are just as many concerns about the Cards, Astros, and Brewers. It's a weak division.

 

Except most of those ifs really arent ifs.

 

He mentions the division is extremely weak and very winnable (he hates on the cards rotation and assumes clemens is gone). His point is just that even though the cubs spent a ton of money they arent a clear favorite. I think thats a fine premise for an article.

 

You know what else is a fine premise for an article: despite being World Series champs, the Cardinals are not clear favorites in the division. Or despite spending $100 Million on Carlos Lee, the Astros are not clear favorites. Or despite signing the NLCS MVP, and the most expensive free agent in team history the Brewers are not clear favorites. Let's see some of those articles.

[CubColtPacer]

1) The Cubs tanked most of the end of the season in order to do their more valuable thing of figuring out who could contribute in 2007.

 

That would be a great argument if it was true. In Sept the team had a .414 winning percentage...better than their season total of .407. Who did we play other than Theriot, who was awesome?

 

Well, it extends all the way back to the trading of Maddux and Walker-when most people talk about last years team, they talk about those two being on it-the team could have been a couple games better with those two. Lee would have come back and stayed if they were in the race. Z was held out one more start then he normally would have when he hurt his back. Aramis sat a couple more days then he normally would. There were a few more things with pitchers, but the biggest things were the trading of Maddux and Lee coming back late, and then leaving early. This is a team who had Henry Blanco playing first base for multiple games-that doesn't strike me as a team trying to win.

[nilodnayr]

 

You know what else is a fine premise for an article: despite being World Series champs, the Cardinals are not clear favorites in the division. Or despite spending $100 Million on Carlos Lee, the Astros are not clear favorites. Or despite signing the NLCS MVP, and the most expensive free agent in team history the Brewers are not clear favorites. Let's see some of those articles.

 

Those are all fine premises for articles, but they arent what this article is about. However, the fact that this article states that there are no favorites for the NL central, implies all of those things you've said above. I guess some people just blindly hate certain journalists or anyone who says anything discouraging about the cubs. Thats your perogative, but the fact that you're argument against the article does not actually mention anything in the article, says a lot.