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You know, some people will never be happy. If we go through the offseason and lose Soriano and Drew to other teams people would have whined and moaned about how Hendry never gets the top tier free agents. Now for once the guy went out shopping against half the teams in the majors who want this guy and finally gets the guy. So everyone whines and moans about how its to much for to long. Well sorry people but you cant have it both ways, this was probably the only way we were going to get Soriano. Hendry's rear end is over the fire and he's going all out ti try to win before he loses his job. Im not angry at the guy for finally being determined to get his target. Am I happy about an 8 year contract? No. Thats the only way we were going to get this bat into our lineup though so for that Im grateful. 4 years down the road Im sure we'll all be mad about how Soriano's contract is eating away at our budget. For now though I'll relish that we actually got the big name free agent and I'll enjoy his production in the lineup for as long as it last.

Co-sign. Too many people expect Hendry to sign people like Soriano to 4 year deals, and trade crap like Roberto Novoa for something worthwhile.

 

Would you be happy with signing Michael Barrett to a 7/100 extension? Of course not, because that would be a heinous overpayment to someone who is a good, but not spectacular offensive player and a below average defender. Soriano is the exact same thing, except we gave him the contract.

 

Show me Barrett has this... and I will buy into your argument...

 

Soriano became the first player in baseball history with 40 home runs, 40 stolen bases and 20 outfield assists in a single season. He also became the first member of the 40-40-40 club, which encapsulates homers, stolen bases and doubles.

 

An All-Star in each of the last five years, Soriano owns a .280 average with 208 home runs and 560 RBI in eight seasons with the New York Yankees, Texas Rangers and the Nationals.

 

Soriano won the AL Rookie of the Year award with the Yankees in 2001, when he hit .268 with 18 homers and 73 RBI. He finished third in MVP voting the following season, when he increased his average to .300 and collected 39 homers and 102 RBI.

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Is it official yet, or is this just "I know a guy who knows a guy who said..." type situation? I have not heard an official announcement.

ESPN Radio has reported it, as have Fox Sports, Yahoo! Sports and ESPNEWS.

 

I've followed the thread, but Nothing in those reports (admittedly I haven't read all of them) mention tat its official.

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Soriano is not very good.

 

I never thought I would have somone tell me a 40/40 guy is

not very good. Priceless.

 

I'm with you on this one. It's amazing.

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This is a great day....The only pieces missing.. Is for sure pitching..2 starters.... Then i would love to sign Lugo, then have our 3-4-5 hitters Soriano,Lee and Rameriz.... That would take us all the way
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Is it official yet, or is this just "I know a guy who knows a guy who said..." type situation? I have not heard an official announcement.

ESPN Radio has reported it, as have Fox Sports, Yahoo! Sports and ESPNEWS.

 

I've followed the thread, but Nothing in those reports (admittedly I haven't read all of them) mention tat its official.

It's not official, but I've never seen an announcement like this come out through all the major media sources and then turn out to be false.

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8 Years, 136 Million

 

Yikes. I cant lie, I'm happy. I'm really pumped that Hendry showed that he was committed to signing a big name for once.

 

I agree it's nice to see Hendry make the leap I just wish he did it off a different cliff.

 

I dont mind even that its off this cliff. I like Soriano, I just wish it was a little shorter cliff...like of the 5 year variety. But hell, i'll take it.

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I'd love the contract if it were 3-4 years. 8 years is crazy

 

I think that's what it took to get him to sign, you have to go the extra yard if you want the big signing IMO.

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You know, some people will never be happy. If we go through the offseason and lose Soriano and Drew to other teams people would have whined and moaned about how Hendry never gets the top tier free agents. Now for once the guy went out shopping against half the teams in the majors who want this guy and finally gets the guy. So everyone whines and moans about how its to much for to long. Well sorry people but you cant have it both ways, this was probably the only way we were going to get Soriano. Hendry's rear end is over the fire and he's going all out ti try to win before he loses his job. Im not angry at the guy for finally being determined to get his target. Am I happy about an 8 year contract? No. Thats the only way we were going to get this bat into our lineup though so for that Im grateful. 4 years down the road Im sure we'll all be mad about how Soriano's contract is eating away at our budget. For now though I'll relish that we actually got the big name free agent and I'll enjoy his production in the lineup for as long as it last.

Co-sign. Too many people expect Hendry to sign people like Soriano to 4 year deals, and trade crap like Roberto Novoa for something worthwhile.

 

Would you be happy with signing Michael Barrett to a 7/100 extension? Of course not, because that would be a heinous overpayment to someone who is a good, but not spectacular offensive player and a below average defender. Soriano is the exact same thing, except we gave him the contract.

 

The Barrett analogy is missing something, though. On the market, Barrett doesn't have that kind of value; Soriano, we can only believe at this point, does. While the production is similar, the Value is not, for better or worse.

 

It's fun to talk about what we are paying for production, but it's not that simple. We did what we had to do to get "another Barrett," not what made "sense" by regular logic.

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Show me Barrett has this... and I will buy into your argument...

 

Soriano became the first player in baseball history with 40 home runs, 40 stolen bases and 20 outfield assists in a single season. He also became the first member of the 40-40-40 club, which encapsulates homers, stolen bases and doubles.

 

An All-Star in each of the last five years, Soriano owns a .280 average with 208 home runs and 560 RBI in eight seasons with the New York Yankees, Texas Rangers and the Nationals.

 

Soriano won the AL Rookie of the Year award with the Yankees in 2001, when he hit .268 with 18 homers and 73 RBI. He finished third in MVP voting the following season, when he increased his average to .300 and collected 39 homers and 102 RBI.

I'm pretty sure Barrett wasn't caught stealing 17 times last season, either.

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I'd love the contract if it were 3-4 years. 8 years is crazy

 

I think that's what it took to get him to sign, you have to go the extra yard if you want the big signing IMO.

 

Exactly.

 

I'd like to see how this deal is structured. I wonder if we still have the money to get drew? If not, then maybe we trade for ManRam?

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Is it official yet, or is this just "I know a guy who knows a guy who said..." type situation? I have not heard an official announcement.

ESPN Radio has reported it, as have Fox Sports, Yahoo! Sports and ESPNEWS.

 

I've followed the thread, but Nothing in those reports (admittedly I haven't read all of them) mention tat its official.

It's not official, but I've never seen an announcement like this come out through all the major media sources and then turn out to be false.

 

 

PLEASE PLEASE let it be the first time.

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You know, some people will never be happy. If we go through the offseason and lose Soriano and Drew to other teams people would have whined and moaned about how Hendry never gets the top tier free agents. Now for once the guy went out shopping against half the teams in the majors who want this guy and finally gets the guy. So everyone whines and moans about how its to much for to long. Well sorry people but you cant have it both ways, this was probably the only way we were going to get Soriano. Hendry's rear end is over the fire and he's going all out ti try to win before he loses his job. Im not angry at the guy for finally being determined to get his target. Am I happy about an 8 year contract? No. Thats the only way we were going to get this bat into our lineup though so for that Im grateful. 4 years down the road Im sure we'll all be mad about how Soriano's contract is eating away at our budget. For now though I'll relish that we actually got the big name free agent and I'll enjoy his production in the lineup for as long as it last.

Co-sign. Too many people expect Hendry to sign people like Soriano to 4 year deals, and trade crap like Roberto Novoa for something worthwhile.

 

Would you be happy with signing Michael Barrett to a 7/100 extension? Of course not, because that would be a heinous overpayment to someone who is a good, but not spectacular offensive player and a below average defender. Soriano is the exact same thing, except we gave him the contract.

 

Show me Barrett has this... and I will buy into your argument...

 

Soriano became the first player in baseball history with 40 home runs, 40 stolen bases and 20 outfield assists in a single season. He also became the first member of the 40-40-40 club, which encapsulates homers, stolen bases and doubles.

 

An All-Star in each of the last five years, Soriano owns a .280 average with 208 home runs and 560 RBI in eight seasons with the New York Yankees, Texas Rangers and the Nationals.

 

Soriano won the AL Rookie of the Year award with the Yankees in 2001, when he hit .268 with 18 homers and 73 RBI. He finished third in MVP voting the following season, when he increased his average to .300 and collected 39 homers and 102 RBI.

 

I could care less about meaningless accolades like 40-40-40, especially when those 40 SB come with 17 CS. The point is that he's not going to repeat that.

 

3 year production(04-06):

 

.287/.337/.489/.826

.276/.345/.479/.824

.307/.368/.517/.885

 

or

 

.280/.324/.484/.808

.268/.309/.512/.821

.277/.351/.560/.911

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Show me Barrett has this... and I will buy into your argument...

 

Soriano became the first player in baseball history with 40 home runs, 40 stolen bases and 20 outfield assists in a single season. He also became the first member of the 40-40-40 club, which encapsulates homers, stolen bases and doubles.

 

An All-Star in each of the last five years, Soriano owns a .280 average with 208 home runs and 560 RBI in eight seasons with the New York Yankees, Texas Rangers and the Nationals.

 

Soriano won the AL Rookie of the Year award with the Yankees in 2001, when he hit .268 with 18 homers and 73 RBI. He finished third in MVP voting the following season, when he increased his average to .300 and collected 39 homers and 102 RBI.

I'm pretty sure Barrett wasn't caught stealing 17 times last season, either.

 

I am also pretty positive Soriano didn't throw out 21 runners either. Bad comparison no matter how you look at it.

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I'd love the contract if it were 3-4 years. 8 years is crazy

 

I think that's what it took to get him to sign, you have to go the extra yard if you want the big signing IMO.

 

Exactly.

 

I'd like to see how this deal is structured. I wonder if we still have the money to get drew? If not, then maybe we trade for ManRam?

 

I want to see it too. I admit this is kind of exciting because I can't remember the Cubs ever signing one the top 3 free agents since I've been a fan. I really wish it were Vlad or Beltran from the previous years but what the heck.

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Can we still sign Drew?

 

 

Bold prediction: Soriano never puts up a .900 OPS with the Cubs

 

Co-sign.

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