College Football - Week of 11/25

[Butterscup1679666578]

Mizzou beats kU for the first time in 4 years, 42-17. Daniel looked great today, and they completely moved at will on offense.

 

I wanted 50 points, but we got screwed on that on the weirdest call I've ever seen. 3rd down and about 4, throw a short pass over the middle to Ekwerekwu, he gets passed everybody and goes for about an 80 yard TD. But there's a flag. They call unsportsmanlike conduct on kU after the play and 15 yards will be tacked onto the kickoff. Then, they say the play is under review. They review something, and they say there are now offsetting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and we'll redo the down. It was bizarre, and I still don't get it.

 

i had to watch on gamecast. womdered what happened there.

 

we had to keep the ball out of daniel's hadns to win, and we didn't. he just owned us. our dumb penalties didn't help. congrats.

 

Thanks. You guys have a stud there in Cornish. Your QB(s) were unimpressive though, don't know what the deal was there.

[CuseCubFan69]

cool, so can we stop talking about the big east now?

 

Better than the Big 12.

 

That may or may not be true, though a healthy OU and Texas would beat any team in the Big East.

 

Of course, no one has been in the football threads hyping the Big 12 as the best conference in america.

 

It's because they'd be wrong.

 

That's not what I'm saying, though. The Big East is a fine conference, but it's nowhere near good enough to deserve all the arguing back and forth.

 

I agree. I just got upset at the lack of respect and it spiraled a bit out of control with some of the responses. Those responses are exactly what have bothered me and the ignorance of the league just astounded me. I know the Big East isn't the best but it isn't the worst either and listening to all the experts omit Louisville from the 1 loss club has bothered me also. I would think that you would feel the same way if OK had one loss and the polls had them at 8 or 9.

[Derwood]

The GSU/Southern game is the same to me as Army/Navy. I appreciate the rivalry, but have zero interest in watching it on TV. Most of the cool stuff (bands, pageantry, cadets on the field, etc.) can only be experienced live.

[CuseCubFan69]

What kind of pass was that? Bowden has to recruit better because he doesn't seem to be coaching too well of late. It's a lot easier when you have the horses.

 

Hes had great recruiting classes. I think 4 top 5's in the last 5 years. THe offense coaching is was dragging them down. Its awful. Im really surprised watching the game today that FSU offense wasnt booed at all. Ive heard the boosters are real sick of this though.

 

I wonder if Bowden is going by the experts and not by his own evaluating skills.

[imb]

cool, so can we stop talking about the big east now?

 

Better than the Big 12.

 

That may or may not be true, though a healthy OU and Texas would beat any team in the Big East.

 

Of course, no one has been in the football threads hyping the Big 12 as the best conference in america.

 

It's because they'd be wrong.

 

That's not what I'm saying, though. The Big East is a fine conference, but it's nowhere near good enough to deserve all the arguing back and forth.

 

I agree. I just got upset at the lack of respect and it spiraled a bit out of control with some of the responses. Those responses are exactly what have bothered me and the ignorance of the league just astounded me. I know the Big East isn't the best but it isn't the worst either and listening to all the experts omit Louisville from the 1 loss club has bothered me also. I would think that you would feel the same way if OK had one loss and the polls had them at 8 or 9.

 

There are a lot of 1-loss teams, and the ones from the more respected conferences are going to be higher ranked. It's the inherent stupidity of the poll system.

 

The polls work in college basketball because there are so many games and the playoff field is 65 teams. It doesn't work in college football because there are so few games that the teams all just end up beating up on interconference opponents and there is no way to tell, outside of something like Ohio-State/Texas or ND/USC who is the better team.

 

Adding a playoff system would go a long way towards legitimizing the polls.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Mizzou beats kU for the first time in 4 years, 42-17. Daniel looked great today, and they completely moved at will on offense.

 

I wanted 50 points, but we got screwed on that on the weirdest call I've ever seen. 3rd down and about 4, throw a short pass over the middle to Ekwerekwu, he gets passed everybody and goes for about an 80 yard TD. But there's a flag. They call unsportsmanlike conduct on kU after the play and 15 yards will be tacked onto the kickoff. Then, they say the play is under review. They review something, and they say there are now offsetting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and we'll redo the down. It was bizarre, and I still don't get it.

 

i had to watch on gamecast. womdered what happened there.

 

we had to keep the ball out of daniel's hadns to win, and we didn't. he just owned us. our dumb penalties didn't help. congrats.

 

Thanks. You guys have a stud there in Cornish. Your QB(s) were unimpressive though, don't know what the deal was there.

 

Did you ever see a replay of what happened with that offsetting personal foul? I was looking back for flags when it happened and only saw Perry get body slammed, I couldn't figure out how he committed a personal foul, and how the officials didn't have the common sense to make them dead ball fouls. We did a good job of bouncing back though, it was a good day.

 

Louisville fumbles away to Pitt, who just threw an end-around pass to take the lead.

 

ETA: Which reminds me, the reverse with a flea flicker on the end may be my favorite offensive play of the season. Kudos for opening up the playbook, Pinkel.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Mizzou beats kU for the first time in 4 years, 42-17. Daniel looked great today, and they completely moved at will on offense.

 

I wanted 50 points, but we got screwed on that on the weirdest call I've ever seen. 3rd down and about 4, throw a short pass over the middle to Ekwerekwu, he gets passed everybody and goes for about an 80 yard TD. But there's a flag. They call unsportsmanlike conduct on kU after the play and 15 yards will be tacked onto the kickoff. Then, they say the play is under review. They review something, and they say there are now offsetting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and we'll redo the down. It was bizarre, and I still don't get it.

 

i had to watch on gamecast. womdered what happened there.

 

we had to keep the ball out of daniel's hadns to win, and we didn't. he just owned us. our dumb penalties didn't help. congrats.

 

Thanks. You guys have a stud there in Cornish. Your QB(s) were unimpressive though, don't know what the deal was there.

 

Did you ever see a replay of what happened with that offsetting personal foul? I was looking back for flags when it happened and only saw Perry get body slammed, I couldn't figure out how he committed a personal foul, and how the officials didn't have the common sense to make them dead ball fouls. We did a good job of bouncing back though, it was a good day.

 

Louisville fumbles away to Pitt, who just threw an end-around pass to take the lead.

 

ETA: Which reminds me, the reverse with a flea flicker on the end may be my favorite offensive play of the season. Kudos for opening up the playbook, Pinkel.

 

Yeah that was awesome. They pulled out all the trick plays today.

[soccer10k]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

[imb]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

[CubColtPacer]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

With the way at-large teams are going down, if Boise State loses there might be a free for all for the at-large spots. Here's a look at the at-large spots (4 of them to get)

 

Michigan and Notre Dame have at-large spots basically locked up now-looking around the different conferences for more:

 

ACC-can Virginia Tech slip in to a BCS bowl? with a couple upsets, they can get to the top 14-if they do that, they might get in because there might not be enough spots.

Big 10-Michigan is guaranteed one, which makes Wisconsin ineligible to go with 2 teams in front of them from the conference.

Big 12-nobody here-Oklahoma is the only team with 2 losses, and if they don't win the automatic bid they would have 3.

Pac 10-USC, the automatic winner, is the only eligble team here.

SEC-there will likely be one at-large spot here from either LSU or Florida.

Big East-West Virginia with 2 losses, Rutgers with 2 losses, or Louisville with 1 are the choices here-but Louisville has to get past Pittsburgh in order to make this true, and of course 1 of these teams will win the automatic bid.

Boise State-with the win.

 

If Boise State loses, then LSU or Florida will take the 3rd at-large spot, and then it will likely be either West Virginia with 2 losses (I think WV will beat Rutgers) or Virginia Tech with 2 losses as well-which one is more deserving?

 

If Boise State wins, then either the SEC will take the final spot, or a 1 loss Louisville if Rutgers beats WV and Louisville beats Pittsburgh.

 

One thing I know-with the expansion of the BCS to 10 teams, the prohibition against 3 teams from one conference should be taken out.

[CubColtPacer]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

 

Well, the Big 12 winner will be the team who gets to try to massacre them.

[Derwood]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

 

you have to feel bad for them though. That program has done a great job in recruiting and building a good team....not their fault that the rest of the conference is a joke. I think it's elitist to say that only teams from the 6 BCS conferences should be allowed to play in a BCS game. Boise St. has been pretty well punished in both the polls and computer, but staying undefeated has forced them in there. If they lose today, then no problem, they go to the whatever bowl.

 

If ND loses tonight, would you still put them in as an at-large over BSU?

[soccer10k]

One thing I know-with the expansion of the BCS to 10 teams, the prohibition against 3 teams from one conference should be taken out.

 

Two should be the limit. If you can't finish top 2 in your conference you shouldn't go to a BCS bowl.

[imb]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

 

you have to feel bad for them though. That program has done a great job in recruiting and building a good team....not their fault that the rest of the conference is a joke. I think it's elitist to say that only teams from the 6 BCS conferences should be allowed to play in a BCS game. Boise St. has been pretty well punished in both the polls and computer, but staying undefeated has forced them in there. If they lose today, then no problem, they go to the whatever bowl.

 

If ND loses tonight, would you still put them in as an at-large over BSU?

 

Is ND better than Boise St.? I think so, so yes, they should.

[soccer10k]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

 

you have to feel bad for them though. That program has done a great job in recruiting and building a good team....not their fault that the rest of the conference is a joke. I think it's elitist to say that only teams from the 6 BCS conferences should be allowed to play in a BCS game. Boise St. has been pretty well punished in both the polls and computer, but staying undefeated has forced them in there. If they lose today, then no problem, they go to the whatever bowl.

 

If ND loses tonight, would you still put them in as an at-large over BSU?

 

With all the losses to the top teams this weekend, yes I would take ND as an at-large with a loss today.

[BigSlick]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

 

you have to feel bad for them though. That program has done a great job in recruiting and building a good team....not their fault that the rest of the conference is a joke. I think it's elitist to say that only teams from the 6 BCS conferences should be allowed to play in a BCS game. Boise St. has been pretty well punished in both the polls and computer, but staying undefeated has forced them in there. If they lose today, then no problem, they go to the whatever bowl.

 

If ND loses tonight, would you still put them in as an at-large over BSU?

 

If they are punished by both the Polls and the Computers, doesn't that actually mean something? That they face weak competition and they really aren't that good?

 

I sorta agree that it would be an embarrassment to see them in the BCS. They'll get steamrolled. If they want to go, let them go, but they will get destroyed.

 

Also, LOL, ND is pretty bad. Notre Dame's victories are about on par with Boise State. In fact, has Charlie Weis really beaten any quality opponent?

Edited November 25, 2006 by BigSlick

[soccer10k]

Touchdown Louisville. 17-14 Cardinals.

[snoodmonger]

Mizzou beats kU for the first time in 4 years, 42-17. Daniel looked great today, and they completely moved at will on offense.

 

I wanted 50 points, but we got screwed on that on the weirdest call I've ever seen. 3rd down and about 4, throw a short pass over the middle to Ekwerekwu, he gets passed everybody and goes for about an 80 yard TD. But there's a flag. They call unsportsmanlike conduct on kU after the play and 15 yards will be tacked onto the kickoff. Then, they say the play is under review. They review something, and they say there are now offsetting unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and we'll redo the down. It was bizarre, and I still don't get it.

 

i had to watch on gamecast. womdered what happened there.

 

we had to keep the ball out of daniel's hadns to win, and we didn't. he just owned us. our dumb penalties didn't help. congrats.

 

Thanks. You guys have a stud there in Cornish. Your QB(s) were unimpressive though, don't know what the deal was there.

 

they're not good?

 

cornish is a stud. too bad he's exhausted eligibility.

[CubColtPacer]

One thing I know-with the expansion of the BCS to 10 teams, the prohibition against 3 teams from one conference should be taken out.

 

Two should be the limit. If you can't finish top 2 in your conference you shouldn't go to a BCS bowl.

 

The problem is that there are 6 major conferences, 1 possible spot for a minor conference team, and 1 possible spot for Notre Dame. There are 10 spots overall. What happens if both Notre Dame has a year where they don't make the BCS and there is no eligible minor conference team? That means that there will be 6 conference winners, and then 4 of the conferences will be forced to send a 2nd team-and some of those 2nd place teams might not be deserving. This year in the conferences is an example, where there are at least 3 conferences with no at-large teams eligible at this moment. (Pac-10, Big XII, ACC) The BCS is just lucky that 2 of those spots will be filled this year by Boise State and Notre Dame, or else there would be an extra spot with no team eligible to fill it.

[CubColtPacer]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

 

you have to feel bad for them though. That program has done a great job in recruiting and building a good team....not their fault that the rest of the conference is a joke. I think it's elitist to say that only teams from the 6 BCS conferences should be allowed to play in a BCS game. Boise St. has been pretty well punished in both the polls and computer, but staying undefeated has forced them in there. If they lose today, then no problem, they go to the whatever bowl.

 

If ND loses tonight, would you still put them in as an at-large over BSU?

 

If they are punished by both the Polls and the Computers, doesn't that actually mean something? That they face weak competition and they really aren't that good?

 

I sorta agree that it would be an embarrassment to see them in the BCS. They'll get steamrolled. If they want to go, let them go, but they will get destroyed.

 

Also, LOL, ND is pretty bad. Notre Dame's victories are about on par with Boise State. In fact, has Charlie Weis really beaten any quality opponent?

 

Just a team who is likely to be their conference winner in a major conference this year with a chance to beat a 2nd conference winner tonight.

[soccer10k]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

 

you have to feel bad for them though. That program has done a great job in recruiting and building a good team....not their fault that the rest of the conference is a joke. I think it's elitist to say that only teams from the 6 BCS conferences should be allowed to play in a BCS game. Boise St. has been pretty well punished in both the polls and computer, but staying undefeated has forced them in there. If they lose today, then no problem, they go to the whatever bowl.

 

If ND loses tonight, would you still put them in as an at-large over BSU?

 

If they are punished by both the Polls and the Computers, doesn't that actually mean something? That they face weak competition and they really aren't that good?

 

I sorta agree that it would be an embarrassment to see them in the BCS. They'll get steamrolled. If they want to go, let them go, but they will get destroyed.

 

Also, LOL, ND is pretty bad. Notre Dame's victories are about on par with Boise State. In fact, has Charlie Weis really beaten any quality opponent?

 

Boise State rolled Oregon State earlier this year and Ian Johnson torched them for 240 yards. That Oregon State rushing defense has only given up 103 rushing ypg this year. I'm not saying they'll win the BCS game but I don't think they're as bad as a lot of people think.

[CuseCubFan69]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

 

you have to feel bad for them though. That program has done a great job in recruiting and building a good team....not their fault that the rest of the conference is a joke. I think it's elitist to say that only teams from the 6 BCS conferences should be allowed to play in a BCS game. Boise St. has been pretty well punished in both the polls and computer, but staying undefeated has forced them in there. If they lose today, then no problem, they go to the whatever bowl.

 

If ND loses tonight, would you still put them in as an at-large over BSU?

 

If they are punished by both the Polls and the Computers, doesn't that actually mean something? That they face weak competition and they really aren't that good?

 

I sorta agree that it would be an embarrassment to see them in the BCS. They'll get steamrolled. If they want to go, let them go, but they will get destroyed.

 

Also, LOL, ND is pretty bad. Notre Dame's victories are about on par with Boise State. In fact, has Charlie Weis really beaten any quality opponent?

 

Just a team who is likely to be their conference winner in a major conference this year with a chance to beat a 2nd conference winner tonight.

 

What throws a monkey wrench into it is a 3 or 4 loss team or 2 that wins the Conference Championship. The Big East could screw it up too as they only have 8 teams and that increases the chances for a 3 loss team like Pitt a couple of years ago .

[BigSlick]

Boise State playing Nevada on ESPN2 and is basically playing for a BCS bowl.

 

Boise St. in a BCS bowl would be a travesty. Outside of an early win against Oregon St, they have played absolutely no one. Just because a team goes undefeated against a high school schedule does not entitle them to a BCS game.

 

Although it would be kind of fun to watch them get massacred.

 

you have to feel bad for them though. That program has done a great job in recruiting and building a good team....not their fault that the rest of the conference is a joke. I think it's elitist to say that only teams from the 6 BCS conferences should be allowed to play in a BCS game. Boise St. has been pretty well punished in both the polls and computer, but staying undefeated has forced them in there. If they lose today, then no problem, they go to the whatever bowl.

 

If ND loses tonight, would you still put them in as an at-large over BSU?

 

If they are punished by both the Polls and the Computers, doesn't that actually mean something? That they face weak competition and they really aren't that good?

 

I sorta agree that it would be an embarrassment to see them in the BCS. They'll get steamrolled. If they want to go, let them go, but they will get destroyed.

 

Also, LOL, ND is pretty bad. Notre Dame's victories are about on par with Boise State. In fact, has Charlie Weis really beaten any quality opponent?

 

Just a team who is likely to be their conference winner in a major conference this year with a chance to beat a 2nd conference winner tonight.

 

What throws a monkey wrench into it is a 3 or 4 loss team or 2 that wins the Conference Championship. The Big East could screw it up too as they only have 8 teams and that increases the chances for a 3 loss team like Pitt a couple of years ago .

 

A big reason why i'm opposed to conference championship games. They usually just seem unnecessary, and tend to just mess things up.

 

Why do we need 12 team conferences anyway? If we cut everything down to 9-10 team conferences and everyone plays each other....there goes the need for a conference championship game.

[da bears]

UGH!!! I had to work at a concession stand all day today for my business frat. It SUCKED. Missed probably the best game of the year for Mizzou. Was the crowd really into it and loud today? I have to watch the replay show, cause I really missed all but like 4 plays. Dammit this sucks. At least we won!

[soccer10k]

One thing I know-with the expansion of the BCS to 10 teams, the prohibition against 3 teams from one conference should be taken out.

 

Two should be the limit. If you can't finish top 2 in your conference you shouldn't go to a BCS bowl.

 

The problem is that there are 6 major conferences, 1 possible spot for a minor conference team, and 1 possible spot for Notre Dame. There are 10 spots overall. What happens if both Notre Dame has a year where they don't make the BCS and there is no eligible minor conference team? That means that there will be 6 conference winners, and then 4 of the conferences will be forced to send a 2nd team-and some of those 2nd place teams might not be deserving. This year in the conferences is an example, where there are at least 3 conferences with no at-large teams eligible at this moment. (Pac-10, Big XII, ACC) The BCS is just lucky that 2 of those spots will be filled this year by Boise State and Notre Dame, or else there would be an extra spot with no team eligible to fill it.

 

That's a good point. I feel it should be an 'if necessary' sort of thing though. If no other teams are eligible then you can have a third team. I just don't like the idea of a third place team in the BCS.