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I'm glad we won, but how can we be happy when we shoot under 40% from the field and less than 60% from the line? Every team who plays us should begin fouling with two minutes left.
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You've gotta look for McBride or Carter. If neither of them are there air it out to the guy at the opposing free throw line. Worst case scenario IU picks it off and has 2 seconds to get a shot off from 3/4 court.

 

Nah, worst case scenario is that you air it over his head and throw it out of bounds with no time running off the clock.

 

Congratulations Illinois on a hard-fought victory, even if it was a contest on if you could miss more free throws or we could miss more 3 pointers :D. Good luck in the rest of the Big 10 tourney and the NCAA tourney, although I have a feeling that neither of our NCAA stays will be very long.

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I'm glad we won, but how can we be happy when we shoot under 40% from the field and less than 60% from the line? Every team who plays us should begin fouling with two minutes left.

 

They should definitely foul Pruitt every time he's in the post.

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I'm glad we won, but how can we be happy when we shoot under 40% from the field and less than 60% from the line? Every team who plays us should begin fouling with two minutes left.

 

They should definitely foul Pruitt every time he's in the post.

 

i can't believe that hasn't already happened

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USC up 38-34 on Washington State. WSU swept the regular season series and last time out in Pullman, the Cougars came back from a double digit deficit to win in double overtime.

 

ETA: Oregon was swept by USC and swept Wazzou this season.

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After watching ND-Gtown on tape (I was at the top-ranked ND hockey team's game tonight) I've decided I'm supremely confident in the Irish. They can beat anyone, and for the first time in the whole time I've been following the hoops team, they're playing their best ball in March.
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Anyway, the disparity between the Big 12 North and South was HUGE this year, that's why KSU is still a bubble team. They got 2 games each against CU, ISU, Nebraska, and Mizzou

 

Up your ASS.... We are 11-6 in conference, clearly showed we are at least 4th in the Big 12, yet we still get no respect. I love dilusional Big Televen fans..... Go win at Texas. Guarantee it wouldn't happen. So we lose to KU 2x....but only lose to aTm by 4 at their house, while we only had Walker for 5 mins of the game......no, that didn't matter.. We came back from that, without our best player, to win 12 of 16 and finish 4th in the Big 12......

 

 

If KSU is NOT in, I'll drive to Indy and show MANY people my ASS!

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Anyway, the disparity between the Big 12 North and South was HUGE this year, that's why KSU is still a bubble team. They got 2 games each against CU, ISU, Nebraska, and Mizzou

 

Up your ASS.... We are 11-6 in conference, clearly showed we are at least 4th in the Big 12, yet we still get no respect. I love dilusional Big Televen fans..... Go win at Texas. Guarantee it wouldn't happen. So we lose to KU 2x....but only lose to aTm by 4 at their house, while we only had Walker for 5 mins of the game......no, that didn't matter.. We came back from that, without our best player, to win 12 of 16 and finish 4th in the Big 12......

 

 

If KSU is NOT in, I'll drive to Indy and show MANY people my ASS!

 

Their statistical numbers are very poor. They played an easy schedule, and it is going to end up burning them. It's not a biased opinion that's keeping them out, it's their profile.

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Anyway, the disparity between the Big 12 North and South was HUGE this year, that's why KSU is still a bubble team. They got 2 games each against CU, ISU, Nebraska, and Mizzou

 

Up your ASS.... We are 11-6 in conference, clearly showed we are at least 4th in the Big 12, yet we still get no respect. I love dilusional Big Televen fans..... Go win at Texas. Guarantee it wouldn't happen. So we lose to KU 2x....but only lose to aTm by 4 at their house, while we only had Walker for 5 mins of the game......no, that didn't matter.. We came back from that, without our best player, to win 12 of 16 and finish 4th in the Big 12......

 

 

If KSU is NOT in, I'll drive to Indy and show MANY people my ASS!

 

No need to take it personally. KSU is as bubble as they come, and I agree it's because of a weak division. Aside from a 1 point win at Texas, they have no wins against the RPI top 50. They really don't have any quality losses that I can see either (maybe A&M). Getting blown away by Cal and New Mexico by as much as they did certainly won't help either, no matter how early in the season they occurred. They beat the teams they should have beaten and weren't very competitive against too many other tournament-worthy teams in their losses.

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Anyway, the disparity between the Big 12 North and South was HUGE this year, that's why KSU is still a bubble team. They got 2 games each against CU, ISU, Nebraska, and Mizzou

 

Up your ASS.... We are 11-6 in conference, clearly showed we are at least 4th in the Big 12, yet we still get no respect. I love dilusional Big Televen fans..... Go win at Texas. Guarantee it wouldn't happen. So we lose to KU 2x....but only lose to aTm by 4 at their house, while we only had Walker for 5 mins of the game......no, that didn't matter.. We came back from that, without our best player, to win 12 of 16 and finish 4th in the Big 12......

 

 

If KSU is NOT in, I'll drive to Indy and show MANY people my ASS!

 

Their statistical numbers are very poor. They played an easy schedule, and it is going to end up burning them. It's not a biased opinion that's keeping them out, it's their profile.

 

I see where you're coming from, yet I don't..... We're #4 in the BIG 12. YES, a conference that has supposedly 3 teams that could contend, yet we beat one of those 3 at home, and are the ONLY team that has beat them at home in something like the last 25 games...hmmmm....

 

I understand the lack of out of conference play, however, we beat USC to win a mid season tourney..... at a NEUTRAL sight of course. You tell me another team from a MAJOR conference that went on the road like we did, and I'll respond.... However, there ISN'T ONE. We went on the road for the majority of our OOC... and played the same in conference as KU, but still get no respect. I find it hilarious. I will bet ANYONE on this board that we're in... If anyone has the balls..... A LOT of people here know whom I am, and know I'll pay if wrong. Anyone wish to wager??? If we dont' get in, it's the biggest BS of ANY major conference any time in the recent past...

 

For example..

 

Out of the major conferences...

 

169/169 teams have gotten in with...

 

4th place in the conference

10 conference wins

20 wins overall..

 

If KSU is the one team (after winning against the "for sure" team not in the top 3 in the conference), then the NCAA has issues that need to be addressed. However, after the 97/98 football debacle where we were #3 in the nation but didn't get a BCS game, I don't trust anything....

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Anyway, the disparity between the Big 12 North and South was HUGE this year, that's why KSU is still a bubble team. They got 2 games each against CU, ISU, Nebraska, and Mizzou

 

Up your ASS.... We are 11-6 in conference, clearly showed we are at least 4th in the Big 12, yet we still get no respect. I love dilusional Big Televen fans..... Go win at Texas. Guarantee it wouldn't happen. So we lose to KU 2x....but only lose to aTm by 4 at their house, while we only had Walker for 5 mins of the game......no, that didn't matter.. We came back from that, without our best player, to win 12 of 16 and finish 4th in the Big 12......

 

 

If KSU is NOT in, I'll drive to Indy and show MANY people my ASS!

 

No need to take it personally. KSU is as bubble as they come, and I agree it's because of a weak division. Aside from a 1 point win at Texas, they have no wins against the RPI top 50. They really don't have any quality losses that I can see either (maybe A&M). Getting blown away by Cal and New Mexico by as much as they did certainly won't help either, no matter how early in the season they occurred. They beat the teams they should have beaten and weren't very competitive against too many other tournament-worthy teams in their losses.

 

I will though... read the stats I posted in my last message. As for RPI top 50 wins... we have USC (After tonights soon to be win), UT, and TT....all top 50 RPI Teams (USC will be tonight)

Posted
Anyway, the disparity between the Big 12 North and South was HUGE this year, that's why KSU is still a bubble team. They got 2 games each against CU, ISU, Nebraska, and Mizzou

 

Up your ASS.... We are 11-6 in conference, clearly showed we are at least 4th in the Big 12, yet we still get no respect. I love dilusional Big Televen fans..... Go win at Texas. Guarantee it wouldn't happen. So we lose to KU 2x....but only lose to aTm by 4 at their house, while we only had Walker for 5 mins of the game......no, that didn't matter.. We came back from that, without our best player, to win 12 of 16 and finish 4th in the Big 12......

 

 

If KSU is NOT in, I'll drive to Indy and show MANY people my ASS!

 

No need to take it personally. KSU is as bubble as they come, and I agree it's because of a weak division. Aside from a 1 point win at Texas, they have no wins against the RPI top 50. They really don't have any quality losses that I can see either (maybe A&M). Getting blown away by Cal and New Mexico by as much as they did certainly won't help either, no matter how early in the season they occurred. They beat the teams they should have beaten and weren't very competitive against too many other tournament-worthy teams in their losses.

 

I will though... read the stats I posted in my last message. As for RPI top 50 wins... we have USC (After tonights soon to be win), UT, and TT....all top 50 RPI Teams (USC will be tonight)

 

TT just happened, I already mentionet UT, and USC is not in the top 50 and wasn't when they played.

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Anyway, the disparity between the Big 12 North and South was HUGE this year, that's why KSU is still a bubble team. They got 2 games each against CU, ISU, Nebraska, and Mizzou

 

Up your ASS.... We are 11-6 in conference, clearly showed we are at least 4th in the Big 12, yet we still get no respect. I love dilusional Big Televen fans..... Go win at Texas. Guarantee it wouldn't happen. So we lose to KU 2x....but only lose to aTm by 4 at their house, while we only had Walker for 5 mins of the game......no, that didn't matter.. We came back from that, without our best player, to win 12 of 16 and finish 4th in the Big 12......

 

 

If KSU is NOT in, I'll drive to Indy and show MANY people my ASS!

 

No need to take it personally. KSU is as bubble as they come, and I agree it's because of a weak division. Aside from a 1 point win at Texas, they have no wins against the RPI top 50. They really don't have any quality losses that I can see either (maybe A&M). Getting blown away by Cal and New Mexico by as much as they did certainly won't help either, no matter how early in the season they occurred. They beat the teams they should have beaten and weren't very competitive against too many other tournament-worthy teams in their losses.

 

I will though... read the stats I posted in my last message. As for RPI top 50 wins... we have USC (After tonights soon to be win), UT, and TT....all top 50 RPI Teams (USC will be tonight)

 

TT just happened, I already mentionet UT, and USC is not in the top 50 and wasn't when they played.

 

Problem with your logic is... that's not how they look at it. Now that USC is back in the top 50 (Although EASILY A top 25 team)... we KILLED THEM, and they are now in the top 50 RPI (I haven't seen it yet, but I'd imagine they are)... The committee WILL look at that as a top 50 win.

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Anyway, the disparity between the Big 12 North and South was HUGE this year, that's why KSU is still a bubble team. They got 2 games each against CU, ISU, Nebraska, and Mizzou

 

Up your ASS.... We are 11-6 in conference, clearly showed we are at least 4th in the Big 12, yet we still get no respect. I love dilusional Big Televen fans..... Go win at Texas. Guarantee it wouldn't happen. So we lose to KU 2x....but only lose to aTm by 4 at their house, while we only had Walker for 5 mins of the game......no, that didn't matter.. We came back from that, without our best player, to win 12 of 16 and finish 4th in the Big 12......

 

 

If KSU is NOT in, I'll drive to Indy and show MANY people my ASS!

 

Their statistical numbers are very poor. They played an easy schedule, and it is going to end up burning them. It's not a biased opinion that's keeping them out, it's their profile.

 

I see where you're coming from, yet I don't..... We're #4 in the BIG 12. YES, a conference that has supposedly 3 teams that could contend, yet we beat one of those 3 at home, and are the ONLY team that has beat them at home in something like the last 25 games...hmmmm....

 

I understand the lack of out of conference play, however, we beat USC to win a mid season tourney..... at a NEUTRAL sight of course. You tell me another team from a MAJOR conference that went on the road like we did, and I'll respond.... However, there ISN'T ONE. We went on the road for the majority of our OOC... and played the same in conference as KU, but still get no respect. I find it hilarious. I will bet ANYONE on this board that we're in... If anyone has the balls..... A LOT of people here know whom I am, and know I'll pay if wrong. Anyone wish to wager??? If we dont' get in, it's the biggest BS of ANY major conference any time in the recent past...

 

For example..

 

Out of the major conferences...

 

169/169 teams have gotten in with...

 

4th place in the conference

10 conference wins

20 wins overall..

 

If KSU is the one team (after winning against the "for sure" team not in the top 3 in the conference), then the NCAA has issues that need to be addressed. However, after the 97/98 football debacle where we were #3 in the nation but didn't get a BCS game, I don't trust anything....

 

4th in the #7 conference in the nation. I guarantee you the 4th place team in the MVC (the 6th place conference) will not get their team in, even though they have much better statistical numbers than KSU does.

 

That being said, one more win will definitely put them in as they'll be in the title game. But they are definitely a bubble team. If the five of us on here saw how bad their stats measure up to some of the other bubble teams, I'm sure guys that are actually on the committee will notice that as well.

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Problem with your logic is... that's not how they look at it. Now that USC is back in the top 50 (Although EASILY A top 25 team)... we KILLED THEM, and they are now in the top 50 RPI (I haven't seen it yet, but I'd imagine they are)... The committee WILL look at that as a top 50 win.

 

The problem with your logic is that it's void of logic. You beat a team by 13 that was outside the top 50 (and still is). And they're not EASILY a top 25 team, but that's another issue altogether. You also got beat by 30 to a team at 77 and lost by 24 to a team at 165. The committee will look at those before they get to a ho-hum win against USC.

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Anyway, the disparity between the Big 12 North and South was HUGE this year, that's why KSU is still a bubble team. They got 2 games each against CU, ISU, Nebraska, and Mizzou

 

Up your ASS.... We are 11-6 in conference, clearly showed we are at least 4th in the Big 12, yet we still get no respect. I love dilusional Big Televen fans..... Go win at Texas. Guarantee it wouldn't happen. So we lose to KU 2x....but only lose to aTm by 4 at their house, while we only had Walker for 5 mins of the game......no, that didn't matter.. We came back from that, without our best player, to win 12 of 16 and finish 4th in the Big 12......

 

 

If KSU is NOT in, I'll drive to Indy and show MANY people my ASS!

 

Their statistical numbers are very poor. They played an easy schedule, and it is going to end up burning them. It's not a biased opinion that's keeping them out, it's their profile.

 

I see where you're coming from, yet I don't..... We're #4 in the BIG 12. YES, a conference that has supposedly 3 teams that could contend, yet we beat one of those 3 at home, and are the ONLY team that has beat them at home in something like the last 25 games...hmmmm....

 

I understand the lack of out of conference play, however, we beat USC to win a mid season tourney..... at a NEUTRAL sight of course. You tell me another team from a MAJOR conference that went on the road like we did, and I'll respond.... However, there ISN'T ONE. We went on the road for the majority of our OOC... and played the same in conference as KU, but still get no respect. I find it hilarious. I will bet ANYONE on this board that we're in... If anyone has the balls..... A LOT of people here know whom I am, and know I'll pay if wrong. Anyone wish to wager??? If we dont' get in, it's the biggest BS of ANY major conference any time in the recent past...

 

For example..

 

Out of the major conferences...

 

169/169 teams have gotten in with...

 

4th place in the conference

10 conference wins

20 wins overall..

 

If KSU is the one team (after winning against the "for sure" team not in the top 3 in the conference), then the NCAA has issues that need to be addressed. However, after the 97/98 football debacle where we were #3 in the nation but didn't get a BCS game, I don't trust anything....

 

4th in the #7 conference in the nation. I guarantee you the 4th place team in the MVC (the 6th place conference) will not get their team in, even though they have much better statistical numbers than KSU does.

 

That being said, one more win will definitely put them in as they'll be in the title game. But they are definitely a bubble team. If the five of us on here saw how bad their stats measure up to some of the other bubble teams, I'm sure guys that are actually on the committee will notice that as well.

 

RPI is a JOKE..

 

Put the 3 best MVC (I went to WSU for a while, so I'm not totally KSU biased) vs the 3 top Big 12 teams, and what do you get???? I haven't ONCE heard of ESPN talking about a MVC team having the probability to win it all... HOWEVER, I have definitely heard message board/ESPN talk that KU, aTm, and UT all could be HIGH seeds.... hmmmm.. coincidence???? RPI is absurd, as I'd put ANY Big 12 team up against the MVC with NO worry about who would win.. (Maybe minus KU as they like to lose against low seeds :) )

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