Assesment on Hill, so far?

[Careless]

I know the general consesus around here was that we all expected Rich Hill to be a good pitcher this year, I know I did.

 

The question I'm asking though is did anyone on here expect him to be THIS dominant?

 

I personally thought he'd win the first 3 games, but I was expecting an ERA somewhere between 2.00-3.00, no more than 3.50.

 

Rich Hill has been absolutely remarkable, unfrotunately he doesn't have the hype of Felix or Daisuke to be getting any major attention. It's sad.

 

But seriously, did anyone expect his ability to be this great so early? Like I said I expected him to be good, but this blows my very favorable prediction out of the water

no, I'm pretty sure that no one expected him to have far and away the best season of any pitcher ever. Having an ERA+3 times better than the current best and 4 times better than the best of the 20th/21 century would really be something. Like a hitter smacking 200 HR in a season. I don't think anyone predicted that

[David]

I think you were right with the eye roll.

 

+1

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I think you were right with the eye roll.

 

One more for you sir. :roll:

 

C'mon, you were the one who spewed out a terrible joke.

[A New Era]

I think you were right with the eye roll.

 

One more for you sir. :roll:

 

C'mon, you were the one who spewed out a terrible joke.

 

Right, I put myself down so you didn't have to. No need to make me feel worse! :lol:

[BigSlick]

I know the general consesus around here was that we all expected Rich Hill to be a good pitcher this year, I know I did.

 

The question I'm asking though is did anyone on here expect him to be THIS dominant?

 

I personally thought he'd win the first 3 games, but I was expecting an ERA somewhere between 2.00-3.00, no more than 3.50.

 

Rich Hill has been absolutely remarkable, unfrotunately he doesn't have the hype of Felix or Daisuke to be getting any major attention. It's sad.

 

But seriously, did anyone expect his ability to be this great so early? Like I said I expected him to be good, but this blows my very favorable prediction out of the water

 

Hype is what hype is. When someone is absolutely dominant for an extended period of time, they'll get attention.

 

If its June and Hill is still in the Cy Young race, he'll be getting attention.

[soccer10k]

Hill reminds me of Who?.

 

Fixed.

[TruffleShuffle]

Another classic Rich Hill thread

[Soul]

Most encouraging thing I saw last night from Hill:

 

At around the 6th inning, the Braves switched tactics and began swinging at a lot of first and second pitches, hoping to catch Rich trying to get an early fastball strike.

 

Rich then adjusted his tactic, throwing more curves on the first pitch --- FOR STRIKES.

 

This kid's good, folks. He's real good. And he's all ours 8-)

[Jon]

That fastball must look a lot like the curve until it's too late. I've seen a lot of guys swing at out of the zone fastballs when they had to have been thinking curve. I never thought about the elbow concealing the ball for longer though, pretty awesome.

Yeah, and it's a pretty exaggerated lean backwards, too

 

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070420/capt.8a19e5344223407bb2d1fe1487a81a04.cubs_braves_baseball_gaja102.jpg

[C.C.]

Most encouraging thing I saw last night from Hill:

 

At around the 6th inning, the Braves switched tactics and began swinging at a lot of first and second pitches, hoping to catch Rich trying to get an early fastball strike.

 

Rich then adjusted his tactic, throwing more curves on the first pitch --- FOR STRIKES.

 

This kid's good, folks. He's real good. And he's all ours 8-)

 

Yeah, he gets it. All the after game interviews I've seen of him he seems very knowledgeable about the game. He knows what he's doing out there.

[Pushfrog98]

I want to have Rich Hill's babies.

I was thinking the same thing lastnight.

 

When will people (ie. Zambrano, Marquis, Ohman, et.al.) watch Hill pitch and realize, "Hey, maybe if I throw a strike once in a while, I can be effective too!?"

[Magnetic Curses]

please, bask in my i-told-you-so-ness.

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/PremiumForum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

[Soul]

please, bask in my i-told-you-so-ness.

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/PremiumForum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

 

Cool.

 

I also remember a stats guy on Murph in the offseason who predicted a breakout year for Rich on the basis that his minor league numbers are some of the best in recent memory. The early returns are, he was right on. I don't remember his name though.

[TruffleShuffle]

More fun reading

 

And another

[CoolHandLuke]

please, bask in my i-told-you-so-ness.

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/PremiumForum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

 

Cool.

 

I also remember a stats guy on Murph in the offseason who predicted a breakout year for Rich on the basis that his minor league numbers are some of the best in recent memory. The early returns are, he was right on. I don't remember his name though.

 

Probably John Dewan. Was there a lot of computery robot noises in the background?

 

The second link is non-premium.

[TruffleShuffle]

Rich Hill will be worse then Glendon Rusch as a major league pitcher throughout his failed major league career if he continues to be put in the starting rotation on this or any other team.

 

not picking on any particular poster - it's just fun to read this stuff given how the kid is throwing these days

[Soul]

Rich Hill will be worse then Glendon Rusch as a major league pitcher throughout his failed major league career if he continues to be put in the starting rotation on this or any other team.

 

not picking on any particular poster - it's just fun to read this stuff given how the kid is throwing these days

 

I hope that wasn't me :lol:

[jersey cubs fan]

My early assessment on Hill is that's he pretty good. But don't hold me to that.

 

 

 

Seriously though, I think we can lay off the "see what all these people said about him before" posts for now.

[UK1679666180]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070420/capt.8a19e5344223407bb2d1fe1487a81a04.cubs_braves_baseball_gaja102.jpg

 

That's more pronounced than Guidry was.

[C.C.]

Rich Hill will be worse then Glendon Rusch as a major league pitcher throughout his failed major league career if he continues to be put in the starting rotation on this or any other team.

 

not picking on any particular poster - it's just fun to read this stuff given how the kid is throwing these days

 

I hope that wasn't me :lol:

 

Or me! But let's face it, he was pretty terrible.

[UK1679666180]

http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/PHO/AAEE030.jpg

http://www.timeout.com/chicago/export_images/98/98.ft.people5.jpg

[Magnetic Curses]

My early assessment on Hill is that's he pretty good. But don't hold me to that.

 

 

 

Seriously though, I think we can lay off the "see what all these people said about him before" posts for now.

 

i was just bragging about what i had said before, not calling anyone out with what they've said.

 

actually there's some fairly decent conversations in those threads, it's like reading a journal and remembering.

[Magnetic Curses]

please, bask in my i-told-you-so-ness.

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/PremiumForum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

 

Cool.

 

I also remember a stats guy on Murph in the offseason who predicted a breakout year for Rich on the basis that his minor league numbers are some of the best in recent memory. The early returns are, he was right on. I don't remember his name though.

 

iirc, he had the best jamesian game score last season, including sanchez's non-no. and yes, john dewan, a guy i don't usually like to hear from as he seems to turn away from meaningful stats and call attention to meaningless ones.

[abuck1220]

i miss cubsfaninca.

[Soul]

please, bask in my i-told-you-so-ness.

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/PremiumForum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

 

http://northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=28009&highlight=

 

Cool.

 

I also remember a stats guy on Murph in the offseason who predicted a breakout year for Rich on the basis that his minor league numbers are some of the best in recent memory. The early returns are, he was right on. I don't remember his name though.

 

iirc, he had the best jamesian game score last season, including sanchez's non-no. and yes, john dewan, a guy i don't usually like to hear from as he seems to turn away from meaningful stats and call attention to meaningless ones.

 

I was pretty excited after listening to him. I make no secret I don't really follow the minors, so I wasn't aware of Hill's dominance (well, maybe a little but he was talking like Hill's minor league career was one of the greatest.......ever).